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“because your bloody car might get scratched”
“because your bloody car might get scratched”
- and because you are too lazy and short sighted to park where there are more empty spaces!
Parent and Child Parking Space
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Originally Posted by malaikah:
“- and because you are too lazy and short sighted to park where there are more empty spaces!”
“- and because you are too lazy and short sighted to park where there are more empty spaces!
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...and too selfish to think of other people whose need is greater than yours, and too arrogant to realise that those rules apply to you, too
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Originally Posted by munta:
“Disabled badges are not just for those who drive and have problems walking.
If your mother, father, brother, sister or friend is blind for example and you are their carer then you can have a disabled badge. If you drive a mini bus for adults with downs syndrome then you can have a disabled badge. If you have one arm then you can have a disabled badge.
In the first example. the disbabled space would save a blind person from crossing a busy car park. In the second, the disabled space would allow the carer to drop the adults off while they were learning to be independant. In the third case, having one arm may give limited mobility when trying to park in very tight parking spaces.
Just because you do not see the need for some of these spaces does not mean they are not needed.”
“Disabled badges are not just for those who drive and have problems walking.
If your mother, father, brother, sister or friend is blind for example and you are their carer then you can have a disabled badge. If you drive a mini bus for adults with downs syndrome then you can have a disabled badge. If you have one arm then you can have a disabled badge.
In the first example. the disbabled space would save a blind person from crossing a busy car park. In the second, the disabled space would allow the carer to drop the adults off while they were learning to be independant. In the third case, having one arm may give limited mobility when trying to park in very tight parking spaces.
Just because you do not see the need for some of these spaces does not mean they are not needed.”
I can see the point in your examples. As I say, I don't park in them anyway as any benefit makes it worthwhile.
However, for your examples, one could argue that the distance to walk for people learning to be independant shouldn't really make a difference.
And in the third example, the ability to park in a given space is surely not dependant on having one arm. Surely the ability to turn a steering wheel to turn the wheels in the same action is part of the modification of the car. Otherwise wouldnt the car be dangerous if it had a massive turning circle?
I still think that the logic is strange. To navigate around one of those huge megastores is surely more difficult/hassle than walking an extra distance from a car park spot....or in fact choosing a smaller store.
As an aside, I always do choose the wide expanse of far away parking spaces when I can. That is because I am a lazy sod and can open the doors easy and also not have to worry about the lines too much. So lazy people should actually go for these far away and empty spots ahead of the close disabled spots. It is actually utilising less thought energy.
I have a disabled son, and bloody hell, would you believe it? Whenever I see someone parked in a disabled space when they clearly shouldn't, the trolley I choose always seem to be an errant one. ... Oh, and you know that advert that's always at the front of the trolley? It always says Karma! Strange that! 
Originally Posted by T--J:
“I have a disabled son, and bloody hell, would you believe it? Whenever I see someone parked in a disabled space when they clearly shouldn't, the trolley I choose always seem to be an errant one. ... Oh, and you know that advert that's always at the front of the trolley? It always says Karma! Strange that!”
“I have a disabled son, and bloody hell, would you believe it? Whenever I see someone parked in a disabled space when they clearly shouldn't, the trolley I choose always seem to be an errant one. ... Oh, and you know that advert that's always at the front of the trolley? It always says Karma! Strange that!
”
If you have enough energy to go and do that with a trolley then I feel your karma is the one out of line.
Maybe the karma is working the other way round and others never find a car parked in those spaces.
Originally Posted by PamelaL:
“You bloody tell him Malaikah. I'd invite anyone who uses Disabled Parking spaces when they are not entitled to come shopping with my sisters in law. Both are young women in their early 30s and both suffer from Muscular Dystrophy, they are not yet in wheelchairs but will be. Walking is a painful experience and often results in falling without warning yet they are both fiercely independent and still want to shop for their families. And why shouldn't they? Their right to carry out a normal life with dignity and with as less pain as possible is far more important than your right to park in a larger car space because your bloody car might get scratched.
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“You bloody tell him Malaikah. I'd invite anyone who uses Disabled Parking spaces when they are not entitled to come shopping with my sisters in law. Both are young women in their early 30s and both suffer from Muscular Dystrophy, they are not yet in wheelchairs but will be. Walking is a painful experience and often results in falling without warning yet they are both fiercely independent and still want to shop for their families. And why shouldn't they? Their right to carry out a normal life with dignity and with as less pain as possible is far more important than your right to park in a larger car space because your bloody car might get scratched.
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Well said Pamela. I guess I'm in the same kind of boat as your relatives. I'm in my early 30's and also have a debilitating, progressive illness (one of only four actually named in the Disability Discrimation Act) being diagnosed four years ago. Following assessment, I am entitled to disability living allowance and a blue badge. Yes, I can still walk (some days I can't get out of bed) but shopping is a very tiring task for me. I have to time manage very carefully - not much else gets done on a day I go shopping! I went to Tesco's this afternoon (and have been resting since) - no disabled spaces available so I had to park quite far from the entrance
The level of ignorance displayed on this thread is quite shocking. I was diagnosed four years ago, at the age of 27, after hardly ever being ill. Seriously, disability can happen to anyone at any time. You should count yourselves very lucky and if you are able to walk, make the most of it - you never know when that privilege may be taken away from you. I think myself lucky every day that my illness is still very mild and try to make the most of what I've got.
Oh, and for people worried about their expensive cars - what a shame you're not disabled - I get mine for free
Originally Posted by simonipswich:
“All I said is that I park in parent and child because I am sick to death of my doors getting damaged. You seem to find it funny to say that you hope my car gets damaged by a trolley why? You must be some kind of thick bastard.
The Disable Act means no one can no longer discriminate, they have to be treated the SAME as anyone else.
Bit of advice: Put yourself in a trolley and roll of a cliff... try not to damage any cars, unless it's your heap of crap
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“All I said is that I park in parent and child because I am sick to death of my doors getting damaged. You seem to find it funny to say that you hope my car gets damaged by a trolley why? You must be some kind of thick bastard.
The Disable Act means no one can no longer discriminate, they have to be treated the SAME as anyone else.
Bit of advice: Put yourself in a trolley and roll of a cliff... try not to damage any cars, unless it's your heap of crap
”
Oh, and I've reported this post - I'm sure I'm not the first
I'm moving to Ipswich shortly - God help me if this is typical of the people there
Originally Posted by LYW:
“I can see the point in your examples. As I say, I don't park in them anyway as any benefit makes it worthwhile.
However, for your examples, one could argue that the distance to walk for people learning to be independant shouldn't really make a difference.
And in the third example, the ability to park in a given space is surely not dependant on having one arm. Surely the ability to turn a steering wheel to turn the wheels in the same action is part of the modification of the car. Otherwise wouldnt the car be dangerous if it had a massive turning circle?
I still think that the logic is strange. To navigate around one of those huge megastores is surely more difficult/hassle than walking an extra distance from a car park spot....or in fact choosing a smaller store.”
“I can see the point in your examples. As I say, I don't park in them anyway as any benefit makes it worthwhile.
However, for your examples, one could argue that the distance to walk for people learning to be independant shouldn't really make a difference.
And in the third example, the ability to park in a given space is surely not dependant on having one arm. Surely the ability to turn a steering wheel to turn the wheels in the same action is part of the modification of the car. Otherwise wouldnt the car be dangerous if it had a massive turning circle?
I still think that the logic is strange. To navigate around one of those huge megastores is surely more difficult/hassle than walking an extra distance from a car park spot....or in fact choosing a smaller store.”
I have worked where these things are issued and you dont get them for having one arm. The disability has to affect the distance a person can walk and this is proven by checking that they get specific benefits, or for those not eligible for the benefit (too old) by assessment by qualified staff.
Badges are not issued to carers but can be used in the carers car (or anyone elses car) providing the person who it was issued to is travelling in the car.
As for mini buses full of children with downs syndrome - a badge can be issued to an institution but it has to prove it is transporting people who have difficulty in walking.
Originally Posted by ShowbizGosQueen:
“Well said Pamela. I guess I'm in the same kind of boat as your relatives. I'm in my early 30's and also have a debilitating, progressive illness (one of only four actually named in the Disability Discrimation Act) being diagnosed four years ago. Following assessment, I am entitled to disability living allowance and a blue badge. Yes, I can still walk (some days I can't get out of bed) but shopping is a very tiring task for me. I have to time manage very carefully - not much else gets done on a day I go shopping! I went to Tesco's this afternoon (and have been resting since) - no disabled spaces available so I had to park quite far from the entrance
The level of ignorance displayed on this thread is quite shocking. I was diagnosed four years ago, at the age of 27, after hardly ever being ill. Seriously, disability can happen to anyone at any time. You should count yourselves very lucky and if you are able to walk, make the most of it - you never know when that privilege may be taken away from you. I think myself lucky every day that my illness is still very mild and try to make the most of what I've got.
Oh, and for people worried about their expensive cars - what a shame you're not disabled - I get mine for free”
“Well said Pamela. I guess I'm in the same kind of boat as your relatives. I'm in my early 30's and also have a debilitating, progressive illness (one of only four actually named in the Disability Discrimation Act) being diagnosed four years ago. Following assessment, I am entitled to disability living allowance and a blue badge. Yes, I can still walk (some days I can't get out of bed) but shopping is a very tiring task for me. I have to time manage very carefully - not much else gets done on a day I go shopping! I went to Tesco's this afternoon (and have been resting since) - no disabled spaces available so I had to park quite far from the entrance
The level of ignorance displayed on this thread is quite shocking. I was diagnosed four years ago, at the age of 27, after hardly ever being ill. Seriously, disability can happen to anyone at any time. You should count yourselves very lucky and if you are able to walk, make the most of it - you never know when that privilege may be taken away from you. I think myself lucky every day that my illness is still very mild and try to make the most of what I've got.
Oh, and for people worried about their expensive cars - what a shame you're not disabled - I get mine for free
”
Good post
Just wondered if you had tried online grocery shopping ? - obviously you do get tired very quickly so thought this would help (personally I like to pick the food myself and begrudge paying £5 for delivery!), or do you feel more independent doing it yourself ? (hope you don't think I'm being rude by asking - just curious)
Originally Posted by Taglet:
“I have worked where these things are issued and you dont get them for having one arm. The disability has to affect the distance a person can walk and this is proven by checking that they get specific benefits, or for those not eligible for the benefit (too old) by assessment by qualified staff.
Badges are not issued to carers but can be used in the carers car (or anyone elses car) providing the person who it was issued to is travelling in the car.
As for mini buses full of children with downs syndrome - a badge can be issued to an institution but it has to prove it is transporting people who have difficulty in walking.”
“I have worked where these things are issued and you dont get them for having one arm. The disability has to affect the distance a person can walk and this is proven by checking that they get specific benefits, or for those not eligible for the benefit (too old) by assessment by qualified staff.
Badges are not issued to carers but can be used in the carers car (or anyone elses car) providing the person who it was issued to is travelling in the car.
As for mini buses full of children with downs syndrome - a badge can be issued to an institution but it has to prove it is transporting people who have difficulty in walking.”
I'm glad that sensible logic is used. Thanks for clarifying for us.
Originally Posted by Taglet:
“I have worked where these things are issued and you dont get them for having one arm. The disability has to affect the distance a person can walk and this is proven by checking that they get specific benefits, or for those not eligible for the benefit (too old) by assessment by qualified staff.
Badges are not issued to carers but can be used in the carers car (or anyone elses car) providing the person who it was issued to is travelling in the car.
As for mini buses full of children with downs syndrome - a badge can be issued to an institution but it has to prove it is transporting people who have difficulty in walking.”
“I have worked where these things are issued and you dont get them for having one arm. The disability has to affect the distance a person can walk and this is proven by checking that they get specific benefits, or for those not eligible for the benefit (too old) by assessment by qualified staff.
Badges are not issued to carers but can be used in the carers car (or anyone elses car) providing the person who it was issued to is travelling in the car.
As for mini buses full of children with downs syndrome - a badge can be issued to an institution but it has to prove it is transporting people who have difficulty in walking.”
That would be my mistake then. I posted the origional post. I thought it was anyone with a registerd disabliltiy who could get one.
Originally Posted by LYW:
“If you have enough energy to go and do that with a trolley then I feel your karma is the one out of line.
Maybe the karma is working the other way round and others never find a car parked in those spaces.”
“If you have enough energy to go and do that with a trolley then I feel your karma is the one out of line.
Maybe the karma is working the other way round and others never find a car parked in those spaces.”
There was a wink at the end of my post. Jeeeez.
Originally Posted by munta:
“That would be my mistake then. I posted the origional post. I thought it was anyone with a registerd disabliltiy who could get one.”
“That would be my mistake then. I posted the origional post. I thought it was anyone with a registerd disabliltiy who could get one.”
The criteria for issue is supposed to be the same all over country because it is set by the DoT but I suspect there is a lot of abuse with the badges. Some councils dont charge parking to blue badge holders so people often borrow grandma's badge for a trip to the town, leaving grandma in her residential home.
Traffic wardens rarely check details, in fact in the 10 years I worked in that office only one rang up.
Originally Posted by ShowbizGosQueen:
“Well said Pamela. I guess I'm in the same kind of boat as your relatives. I'm in my early 30's and also have a debilitating, progressive illness (one of only four actually named in the Disability Discrimation Act) being diagnosed four years ago. Following assessment, I am entitled to disability living allowance and a blue badge. Yes, I can still walk (some days I can't get out of bed) but shopping is a very tiring task for me. I have to time manage very carefully - not much else gets done on a day I go shopping! I went to Tesco's this afternoon (and have been resting since) - no disabled spaces available so I had to park quite far from the entrance
The level of ignorance displayed on this thread is quite shocking. I was diagnosed four years ago, at the age of 27, after hardly ever being ill. Seriously, disability can happen to anyone at any time. You should count yourselves very lucky and if you are able to walk, make the most of it - you never know when that privilege may be taken away from you. I think myself lucky every day that my illness is still very mild and try to make the most of what I've got.”
“Well said Pamela. I guess I'm in the same kind of boat as your relatives. I'm in my early 30's and also have a debilitating, progressive illness (one of only four actually named in the Disability Discrimation Act) being diagnosed four years ago. Following assessment, I am entitled to disability living allowance and a blue badge. Yes, I can still walk (some days I can't get out of bed) but shopping is a very tiring task for me. I have to time manage very carefully - not much else gets done on a day I go shopping! I went to Tesco's this afternoon (and have been resting since) - no disabled spaces available so I had to park quite far from the entrance
The level of ignorance displayed on this thread is quite shocking. I was diagnosed four years ago, at the age of 27, after hardly ever being ill. Seriously, disability can happen to anyone at any time. You should count yourselves very lucky and if you are able to walk, make the most of it - you never know when that privilege may be taken away from you. I think myself lucky every day that my illness is still very mild and try to make the most of what I've got.”
Great post.
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“ Oh, and for people worried about their expensive cars - what a shame you're not disabled - I get mine for free”
“ Oh, and for people worried about their expensive cars - what a shame you're not disabled - I get mine for free
”
... and we have a new one forced on us every 3 years! What's that all about?
Originally Posted by Candy39:
“Just wondered if you had tried online grocery shopping... or do you feel more independent doing it yourself”
“Just wondered if you had tried online grocery shopping... or do you feel more independent doing it yourself”
Crikey.. maybe by having a disability you are at more risk of becoming isolated. Maybe its like when I had a newborn to cope with by myself, and going to the supermarket was the only outdoor venture I managed for quite some time!
Originally Posted by LYW:
“What about this idea. Supermarkets should scrap the £5 delivery charge for anyone disabled anyway.”
“What about this idea. Supermarkets should scrap the £5 delivery charge for anyone disabled anyway.”
Good idea.
Originally Posted by LYW:
“karma restored.”
“karma restored.”
I don't use the spaces when I go shopping because I would never take my son shopping. He is a typical male and hates shopping and boy, does he let you know when he doesn't like something!
Originally Posted by T--J:
“Good idea.”
“Good idea.
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Well so long as everyone realises that the supermarkets won't be paying for it, customers will. And there will be the same people who abuse disabled badges who abuse the delivery service.
Oh - and there had better be a minimum purchase too
Originally Posted by malaikah:
“Crikey.. maybe by having a disability you are at more risk of becoming isolated. Maybe its like when I had a newborn to cope with by myself, and going to the supermarket was the only outdoor venture I managed for quite some time!”
“Crikey.. maybe by having a disability you are at more risk of becoming isolated. Maybe its like when I had a newborn to cope with by myself, and going to the supermarket was the only outdoor venture I managed for quite some time!”
Going off topic here, but isn't there better things to do than go shopping in a supermarket? The time saved traipsing around a supermarket could be used doing whatever it is someone likes doing - an activity that wasn't a big chore.
People can do what they like, I'm not dictating anyhting to anyone. I am just interested in someone who would choose supermarket shopping over something else. Obviously the £5 delivery charge gets in the way for a lot of people, but if it was free then isn't that a better solution?
Originally Posted by Candy39:
“Good post
Just wondered if you had tried online grocery shopping ? - obviously you do get tired very quickly so thought this would help (personally I like to pick the food myself and begrudge paying £5 for delivery!), or do you feel more independent doing it yourself ? (hope you don't think I'm being rude by asking - just curious)”
“Good post
Just wondered if you had tried online grocery shopping ? - obviously you do get tired very quickly so thought this would help (personally I like to pick the food myself and begrudge paying £5 for delivery!), or do you feel more independent doing it yourself ? (hope you don't think I'm being rude by asking - just curious)”
Thanks
I have thought about it actually but imagined it would dreadfully expensive - £5.00 is a small price to pay - so I may look into this. Mr SBGQ is usually on hand if I feel tired but he always gets the wrong stuff - typical eh?
I suppose my indendence has a lot to do with it actually - although I've never really thought about it like that - I try not to let my condition rule my life and, for the most part, life is exactly the same as before I was diagnosed - except I can't have baths, which I miss (the heat has an adverse effect on me - wondered why I was so tired after having one!
) and I don't go out and hammer it every weekend like I used to However, I still work full time and am actually renovating a house (well, Mr SBGQ is, I just give orders really) so I guess you could say I don't let my illness hold me back. This time last year, I was struggling to get out of bed - hard drugs (I self inject three times a week) have really had a big impact And no, I don't think you're rude. I've only just recently started talking about my condition on DS because although it's a huge part of my life, it doesn't dominate it
Originally Posted by Taglet:
“... The disability has to affect the distance a person can walk. ...”
“... The disability has to affect the distance a person can walk. ...”
Entitlement to a blue badge
Originally Posted by DerekP:
“Well so long as everyone realises that the supermarkets won't be paying for it, customers will. And there will be the same people who abuse disabled badges who abuse the delivery service.
Oh - and there had better be a minimum purchase too”
“Well so long as everyone realises that the supermarkets won't be paying for it, customers will. And there will be the same people who abuse disabled badges who abuse the delivery service.
Oh - and there had better be a minimum purchase too
”
Maybe they should provide an open market for the badges for the closer parking spaces. People could then buy these passes and the money helps to go to the deliveries.
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