nope sorry, that was the same day if I remember rightly, James mentioned it to Gary earlier in the day and that was the result

I'm sure Dee and James supporters admire them despite their negative qualities, not because of them, and see something in them which you can't see.

Just as you admire Gary for the type of things you have quoted in your OP and not for his rudeness or hypocrisy (for example).

I noticed that Yogacats and mentioned it somewhere here last night, but nobody else seemed to see the same. He also said of James that he gave him 'inspiration to sit back and not judge or be opinionated'.
They were lucky that he was generous in the application of what he said, but I did notice that he confused them a bit.

You forgot to mention Audley, who, IMO, he was being sincere to. He described Audley and himself as being parallel in their thinking and could speak 'man to man'. he also described him as solid, like a steel ship in icy waters. He says they took big 'steps' together and he thanked him for carrying him.

Well yes ... I didn't find anything pointed in what Gary said to Audley and seeing as Audley is the only one left who has a shred of respect for Gary I wouldn't have expected Gary to say anything that might be ... er ... misconstrued I agree, Gary was totally sincere to Audley, and I think Audley understood what that was going on there

[quote=dialectic;74759382]I noticed that Yogacats and mentioned it somewhere here last night, but nobody else seemed to see the same. He also said of James that he gave him 'inspiration to sit back and not judge or be opinionated'.
They were lucky that he was generous in the application of what he said, but I did notice that he confused them a bit.

You forgot to mention Audley, who, IMO, he was being sincere to. He described Audley and himself as being parallel in their thinking and could speak 'man to man'. he also described him as solid, like a steel ship in icy waters. He says they took big 'steps' together and he thanked him for carrying him.[/QUOTE]

Awww..what a lovely thing to say and totally deserved too imo. I often noticed that when Gary was in some sort of 'discussion' with others the camera would pan out to reveal Audley sitting on the sidelines ready to step in if needed, almost IMO like his minder/ 'guardian angel'.

JayUK69; Of course it's my opinion, I thought that was obvious, that's why I posted it. Surely a forum is for sharing our own opinions, is it not.

Yes, it is the Digital Spy, Big Brother forum

Oooops looks like Jay's posts were removed.

I think the OP has Gary wrong. Gary says that everything you see is a reflection of yourself (which is why James sees Gary as exceedingly rude when in fact these are the very qualities that James himself embodies). Gary is a loving and positive person therefore he sees these qualities in the others, he is speaking his truth from the heart.

I think I must not have expressed myself very well then. I am a Gary supporter and have been from the start. I am not trying to make Gary look bad at all!

Yes I know you support him but I think you perceived in his words implied criticism of his housemates whereas I believe he was sincerely positive and seeing the light in them.

Quoted for truth

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Oh yeah ... I see what you mean .... it just amused me the actual wording he used. Either coincidental or very, very astute

Why not? It would be subtle and clever -- two good things -- plus saying some things about certain HMs that ought to be said.

All off the cuff took some doing.

And perhaps something in them that's not there. There's been very little sign of positive qualities in either of them, though you'd never guess that from they way Dee's praised on BOTS.

Besides, some people admired Helen in part because of her negative qualities (that's been very clear in what some have said on Twitter), so why not Dee and James?


I don't consider his "rudeness" or "hypocrisy" to be significant compared to some of the others in the house. It's interesting that Dee can be very rude without the in-house rudeness police (James and those who follow in his wake) saying a thing about it. That's already enough to give them a high level of hypocrisy.

Garys speech just covered a lot of things i think that's it , was a great BB speech imo.

Personally I find it an appalling trait when people talk or write ambiguous things.
Dreadful habit that really irritates

It's probably rude, and quite possibly passive-aggressive behaviour

YAY!!

Exactly. But as i just said if it's anything at all. I think all he did was just cover all bases lol

The Rude is just an anagram of Deh True.

or TrueHed

Yes, Gary has been entertaining and I have loved the fact how much he has wound up all the other housemates other than Audley. Plus I think that Audley has been very kind to Gary and a gentleman. I really hope these two are the top two tonight because none of the others are worthy winners.

...HONK HONK

That's the great thing about supporting the forum favourite, you can just interpret their words and actions in such a way that they always look good and the majority will go along with it.

Well of course it is pointless to second guess why people vote for any particular HM as there are as many different reasons as there are voters, and there are possibly a small number of people who vote for someone based upon all their negative qualitites but I would guess that they admire them for causing drama and stirring things up more than for being hurtful, backstabbing etc.

James supporters on here seem to support because he is the biggest character and has been happy to show the best and worst of himself - that is not the same thing as liking him for his negative qualities.



I agree on the hypocrisy point, but definitely not on the rudeness - I see Gary as far and away the rudest HM. There may be reasons to explain this away, and maybe the other HMs should have learnt to overlook some of his rudeness (in the same way that many of us overlook an elderly relative's bad points as 'that's just the way he/she is) but his rudeness as it stands is in a different league.