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Gary Saids "James Was A Strong Element In Helping Me"
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HBB
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“Yes because he didn't know all the nasty things he was saying behind his back and I don't think he realised that James' "helpful" behaviour was in fact rather passive aggressive.”

Gary and James both playing passive aggressive at times

But James far more cruel with his, Gary more blundering
MACTOWIN
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by HBB:
“Defence of him is disgraceful, disgusting really.

I imagine he appeals to a very specific type of person.

What is it that appeals to you about the spiteful bitter bully?”

You may want to explain what sort of person myself and other James supporters are for clarification.
HBB
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“You may want to explain what sort of person myself and other James supporters are for clarification.”

I think you may be struggling with basic understanding of simple language.

I asked you a question, and you appear to be answering it by asking me a similar question

You have the answer my dear.

Or at least one hopes you know what it is that draws you to support and or approve of/identify with, James.
MACTOWIN
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by HBB:
“I think you may be struggling with basic understanding of simple language.

I asked you a question, and you appear to be answering it by asking me a similar question

You have the answer my dear.

Or at least one hopes you know what it is that draws you to support and or approve of/identify with, James.”

You are the one making assumptions about James supporters and not nice ones at that.
Penny Crayon
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by HBB:
“I think you may be struggling with basic understanding of simple language.

I asked you a question, and you appear to be answering it by asking me a similar question

You have the answer my dear.

Or at least one hopes you know what it is that draws you to support and or approve of/identify with, James.”

Do you really suppose all James supporters are one and the same .......all of the same type?

How very silly?

How do you explain posters on here who are bitterly opposed and daggers drawn over a housemate on one series being pally and united over another on the next series.

Life really isn't that simple that people fit into neat little categories - it's sheer ignorance to assume that.
MACTOWIN
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Do you really suppose all James supporters are one and the same .......all of the same type?

How very silly?

How do you explain posters on here who are bitterly opposed and daggers drawn over a housemate on one series being pally and united over another on the next series.

Life really isn't that simple that people fit into neat little categories - it's sheer ignorance to assume that.”

Well said there are a lot of posters that agree about a h/m on one series and not the next.
Vesna
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“I'm glad you've clarified that. I thought 'God ...............I missed so much on my weeks holiday'

I'd like a return to the old days where we had a chronological account of the day from getting up to going to bed. It's far too contrived these days.”

it's totally manipulated. I wonder if the makers of BB are banned from betting on the show. I've wondered that since Josie won. We had live feed then and the difference between live feed Josie and heavily edited HL Josie was night and day.

Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“It does beg the question 'What's the point?' really IMO.

I'd far rather be seeing real stuff rather than contrived/edited tension and rows.”

I feel it's connected to the betting.

Originally Posted by HBB:
“Defence of him is disgraceful, disgusting really.

I imagine he appeals to a very specific type of person.

What is it that appeals to you about the spiteful bitter bully?”

Gary Busey is an asshole, he's , arrogant, vicious, mean, rude and stupid.
No respect for anyone who fell for that soft edit. The guys a train wreck and always has been. James and Dee are saints for putting up with that sorry excuse for a human.

And it's nothing to do with his brain trauma as he's always been like this. How does one get to 70 and still not know how to use a toilet? Pathetic.
JanisElizabeth
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“IMO they needed a bad boy and James was the chosen one and they carried that on to BBBOTS where there biased against him was pathetic.”

In what way were they biased against him on BOTS. He was unpleasant in his interview with Emma and she was trying to get him to show a nice side and he was even more unpleasant on BOTS where Rylan also seemed a bit flummoxed by his vitriol.
JanisElizabeth
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by HBB:
“Gary and James both playing passive aggressive at times

But James far more cruel with his, Gary more blundering”

TBH I actually think Gary is cleverer than he makes out. He knew perfectly well some of them hated him. He said as much in the diary room but he got his point across about them while making it sound like a compliment. James could maybe learn from him.
MACTOWIN
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“In what way were they biased against him on BOTS. He was unpleasant in his interview with Emma and she was trying to get him to show a nice side and he was even more unpleasant on BOTS where Rylan also seemed a bit flummoxed by his vitriol.”

The three week of BBBOTS when he was in the house they were negative about him almost every night and Louse was wanting to smash his face in. All so balanced.
JanisElizabeth
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“You may want to explain what sort of person myself and other James supporters are for clarification.”

Maybe the type of person who thinks it's funny and entertaining to watch an old man being ridiculed and vilified. Maybe someone like George.
pugsley
13-09-2014
I wanted Gary to win, that doesn't mean I didn't notice him insulting the housemates in a complimentary confusing Busey Speak manner, I thought it was genius, he entertained me the most so he got my vote.
JanisElizabeth
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Do you really suppose all James supporters are one and the same .......all of the same type?

How very silly?

How do you explain posters on here who are bitterly opposed and daggers drawn over a housemate on one series being pally and united over another on the next series.

Life really isn't that simple that people fit into neat little categories - it's sheer ignorance to assume that.”

Of course that's true. I think you and I have been on the same side about housemates sometimes and not others. However, I don't think we've ever seen nastiness and just downright bullying (and yes, that's what it was) by a grown man and his little gang of followers against one housemate to that extent before. That's why I can't understand anyone supporting James. Having a different opinion is one thing but supporting that kind of behaviour is something else imo.
JanisElizabeth
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“it's totally manipulated. I wonder if the makers of BB are banned from betting on the show. I've wondered that since Josie won. We had live feed then and the difference between live feed Josie and heavily edited HL Josie was night and day.

I feel it's connected to the betting.


Gary Busey is an asshole, he's , arrogant, vicious, mean, rude and stupid.
No respect for anyone who fell for that soft edit. The guys a train wreck and always has been. James and Dee are saints for putting up with that sorry excuse for a human.

And it's nothing to do with his brain trauma as he's always been like this. How does one get to 70 and still not know how to use a toilet? Pathetic.”

That is quite possibly the most ridiculous statement I have seen on here. I'm sure Gary knows perfectly well how to use a toilet. My dad always did. However, he now has Parkinsons Disease and frequently misses. Nothing to do with reaching 70 and not knowing how to use a toilet and certainly doesn't make him rude or unhygenic. You seem to know an awful lot about him, not sure how unless you know him personally but I know nothing about Gary Busey or his life. I have seen him as an actor but that's the extent of my knowledge about him. I judged him on how he was in the house, just as I did James and Dee who I also knew nothing about before CBB never having watched SCD or BS.
JanisElizabeth
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“The three week of BBBOTS when he was in the house they were negative about him almost every night and Louse was wanting to smash his face in. All so balanced.”


They were a lot more negative about Gary. Kept coming out with the "oh everyone says the same thing about Gary so they can't all be wrong". It wasn't even true.
Seveneyes
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“They were a lot more negative about Gary. Kept coming out with the "oh everyone says the same thing about Gary so they can't all be wrong". It wasn't even true.”

Up to you of course,but I'd leave these posters to it Janis
Gary got the last laugh on these idiots (hms) and whatever his detractors think of him isn't going to change now,people that have been banging on all series about how Gary is this and that have been ultimately thwarted and all that's left is for them to keep banging on about it to basically an empty room..

They didn't enjoy the show,its all Garys fault or a conspiracy by BB/BOTS betting syndicates and God knows what else....LF bad edits ect,...the truth was laid bare imo in the Live showing of James and Dee totally classless morons who couldn't recognise the intended help from the presesnters and jumped head first into dug graves..
Seveneyes
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“Maybe the type of person who thinks it's funny and entertaining to watch an old man being ridiculed and vilified. Maybe someone like George.”

Yes,very nicely put.
Originally Posted by pugsley:
“I wanted Gary to win, that doesn't mean I didn't notice him insulting the housemates in a complimentary confusing Busey Speak manner, I thought it was genius, he entertained me the most so he got my vote.”

Gary....this guy has nearly redefined the game (he'd give Dan Geshling a run for his money)..utter Genius.

HONK!!!
JanisElizabeth
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by Seveneyes:
“Up to you of course,but I'd leave these posters to it Janis
Gary got the last laugh on these idiots (hms) and whatever his detractors think of him isn't going to change now,people that have been banging on all series about how Gary is this and that have been ultimately thwarted and all that's left is for them to keep banging on about it to basically an empty room..

They didn't enjoy the show,its all Garys fault or a conspiracy by BB/BOTS betting syndicates and God knows what else....LF bad edits ect,...the truth was laid bare imo in the Live showing of James and Dee totally classless morons who couldn't recognise the intended help from the presesnters and jumped feet first into dug graves..”

Very true. The conspiracy theories amuse me tbh. I mean, why on earth would the producers give a rat's a**e who wins as long as they make their money from idiots like us phoning in I was, however, genuinely horrified at the post about Gary not having learned to use a toilet. There are many older men who have problems with their aim for many reasons, my dad being one of them and I found that comment extremely offensive.
Seveneyes
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“Very true. The conspiracy theories amuse me tbh. I mean, why on earth would the producers give a rat's a**e who wins as long as they make their money from idiots like us phoning in I was, however, genuinely horrified at the post about Gary not having learned to use a toilet. There are many older men who have problems with their aim for many reasons, my dad being one of them and I found that comment extremely offensive.”

Understandably.

See you next series
HBB
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“You are the one making assumptions about James supporters and not nice ones at that.”

Not at all, I asked a question and rather than provide an answer, you made an sly insinuation. And now you're doing it some more.
How odd to do it on a forum when people can actually go back and see the truth, I guess you're banking that they won't.

Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Do you really suppose all James supporters are one and the same .......all of the same type?

How very silly?

How do you explain posters on here who are bitterly opposed and daggers drawn over a housemate on one series being pally and united over another on the next series.

Life really isn't that simple that people fit into neat little categories - it's sheer ignorance to assume that.”

Here's what funny, I didn't say that at all but the other FM inferred it and you took him at his (?) word and acted accordingly to the extent that you've name called me.

Its funny because that's what James would do. Tell people that somebody was nasty when they weren't , speak very confidently to say a person was bitter, when they aren't
BUT people are convinced by confident talkers! some are stupid and don't do their own research they just follow.

James is nasty and bitter yet he levels those accusations at others.
JanisElizabeth
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by Seveneyes:
“Understandably.

See you next series ”

Look forward to it. I wonder if we will be on the same side next time
Seveneyes
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“Look forward to it. I wonder if we will be on the same side next time ”

Probably not...

But it should be fun...
MACTOWIN
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“They were a lot more negative about Gary. Kept coming out with the "oh everyone says the same thing about Gary so they can't all be wrong". It wasn't even true.”

You watched the shows and you are claiming that they were more negative against Gary than James, if that is the case I give up you win and I will walk away with my own thoughts as there is no point in debating the situation.
Alrightmate
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“They were a lot more negative about Gary. Kept coming out with the "oh everyone says the same thing about Gary so they can't all be wrong". It wasn't even true.”

Now using their same logic that can be turned around and used against certain housemates. Many thousands of viewers disagreed with several BB contestants. Therefore seeing as Gary and Audley came first and second, and as there are more viewers who voted for them than there are housemates, then the viewers are right and the housemates are wrong.
JanisElizabeth
13-09-2014
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“You watched the shows and you are claiming that they were more negative against Gary than James, if that is the case I give up you win and I will walk away with my own thoughts as there is no point in debating the situation.”

Maybe not the audience but I think the presenters were. Just my opinion though. No biggie
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