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lady_xanax
19-09-2014
Originally Posted by fairyfruitcake:
“Really? I'm not surprised that her first reaction is to want to keep all of that quiet. Firstly she is ashamed of herself and secondly it will jeopardise her future with Darren. If I were in her shoes I would want to try every which way to make sure none of that came out. Of course she wants Finn convicted but she wants to protect her children and her future too”

Her children, barring Tom who already knows, are too young to comprehend adultery. Nancy is not keeping quite about Rick for the good of the family but for her own satisfaction and not wanting the shame of the shameful thing she has done to come out or to admit her failure to forgive Darren for Sienna.

Having a fling pales next to being raped. I would have thought most people would swallow their pride and admit it.
ChelseaEllie
19-09-2014
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“Well in this case it becomes relevant because Finn is saying he was groomed and was convinced by JP to enter into sexual relations with him. So the defense is going to go after other incidents where he might have pressured others or lied about sex in order make Finn sound credible.

Its unfair I know because Finn is lying, but the defense is going act as if what he is saying is the truth until proven otherwise.”

Other than Ste (and that age gap is 1 year 6 days) all of jp's bf have been older, spike, Kieron Craig Danny all older than
Emma_Henvey
19-09-2014
Originally Posted by lady_xanax:
“Her children, barring Tom who already knows, are too young to comprehend adultery. Nancy is not keeping quite about Rick for the good of the family but for her own satisfaction and not wanting the shame of the shameful thing she has done to come out or to admit her failure to forgive Darren for Sienna.

Having a fling pales next to being raped. I would have thought most people would swallow their pride and admit it.”

I agree, I don't see how keeping quiet about the affair is protecting her children and family? Nancy is just being selfish and doesn't want to admit her mistakes. She probably doesn't want to admit it because she wants to have a hold over Darren over the whole Sienna thing. I wish Nancy would admit she done wrong and do her best to put a rapist behind bars although I can't really judge right now as the trial hasn't aired yet but I have a feeling she will lie and not admit the truth.
ChelseaEllie
19-09-2014
Originally Posted by Emma_Henvey:
“I agree, I don't see how keeping quiet about the affair is protecting her children and family? Nancy is just being selfish and doesn't want to admit her mistakes. She probably doesn't want to admit it because she wants to have a hold over Darren over the whole Sienna thing. I wish Nancy would admit she done wrong and do her best to put a rapist behind bars although I can't really judge right now as the trial hasn't aired yet but I have a feeling she will lie and not admit the truth.”

I think cos she makes such a fuss over Darren she knows she will be judged, plus fruit loop knows she slept with rick
sderr123
19-09-2014
Originally Posted by ChelseaEllie:
“Other than Ste (and that age gap is 1 year 6 days) all of jp's bf have been older, spike, Kieron Craig Danny all older than”

I didn't say it was fair, but as Finn has raised sexual misconduct as an issue the defense will pursue that line of questioning. Blame Finn for that.
ChelseaEllie
19-09-2014
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“I didn't say it was fair, but as Finn has raised sexual misconduct as an issue the defense will pursue that line of questioning. Blame Finn for that.”

I'm saying as a defence, he tends to be involved with older men, and tends to be the one being chased,
Craig came on to him once he was dating spike
JP kept his distance from Kieron because he was a priest but Kieron kept suggesting they try
With doug he kept backing off cos of Craig
Danny he wasn't sure if he was gay, then he backed off cos of his family
Even Ste was far more aggressive in their courtship, telling nana they were having a date. Going to jp's to start something, going to the prison
sderr123
19-09-2014
Originally Posted by ChelseaEllie:
“I'm saying as a defence, he tends to be involved with older men, and tends to be the one being chased,
Craig came on to him once he was dating spike
JP kept his distance from Kieron because he was a priest but Kieron kept suggesting they try
With doug he kept backing off cos of Craig
Danny he wasn't sure if he was gay, then he backed off cos of his family
Even Ste was far more aggressive in their courtship, telling nana they were having a date. Going to jp's to start something, going to the prison”

Yeah, I don't think Finn's line of defense makes logical sense. Its a strategy to embarrass and humiliate the victims and hope they'll crack and cause enough doubt for the jury to acquit. It could work.
ChelseaEllie
19-09-2014
Originally Posted by sderr123:
“Yeah, I don't think Finn's line of defense makes logical sense. Its a strategy to embarrass and humiliate the victims and hope they'll crack and cause enough doubt for the jury to acquit. It could work.”

I agree poor JP after all he went though this just makes it worse, and Ste drives me made, just admit you slept with sinead, he's had too many chances and not taken them, JP is going to dump him so fast
Skyfall
19-09-2014
Every time Darren and Nancy have problems they always work them out but once Darren learns about Nancys affair will Darren break up with Nancy for good or give Nancy another chance.
lady_xanax
19-09-2014
Originally Posted by ChelseaEllie:
“I think cos she makes such a fuss over Darren she knows she will be judged, plus fruit loop knows she slept with rick”

Sienna knows through listening to Rick's voicemail. Nancy could call her bluff. I suppose Sienna might throw it back in Nancy's face, which will make the thing with Rick look even worse as he wasn't just sleeping with her. But Sienna had bigger fish to fry at the moment anyway.

Of course Nancy will be judged because she's done a bad thing that she should admit to!

Will the DNA results on Nancy come out during the trial, as she'd also have Robbie's DNA on her as well seeing as he kissed her?
sderr123
19-09-2014
Yes Nancy is very stupid to wait and have the affair with Rick be revealed for the first time during a rape trial. I can't imagine a worse possible way to reveal an affair. Had she just admitted this to Daren there might be hope to repair the situation. After all the stuff with Sienna he's far from perfect. If she waits and tries to keep it a secret she'll pay for it.
Sez_babe
19-09-2014
I love how Sienna's hair is still straight and perfect having been in a basement for 2 weeks. For anyone else, it would be so greasy!!
lady_xanax
19-09-2014
Originally Posted by Sez_babe:
“I love how Sienna's hair is still straight and perfect having been in a basement for 2 weeks. For anyone else, it would be so greasy!!”

Clearly Patrick smuggles her in some VO5
Emma_Henvey
19-09-2014
Originally Posted by lady_xanax:
“Clearly Patrick smuggles her in some VO5 ”

fairyfruitcake
19-09-2014
Originally Posted by blue_cheese:
“Are you serious? You actually need a reality check from half of your posts

So if you was having an affair and got raped, you would rather cover it up then admit to it to save you reputation. How would it protect her children? It wouldn't one bit. Her children would be far more safer with a rapist behind bars

I bloody hope your never in JP or Nancy's position.

Too right she should be ashamed from putting herself about. I know Darren is the biggest idiot at times but even he is too good for Nancy.



THIS^^^^^

God where is the face palm icon for the top quote. I cannot believe some peoples views makes me wants to smash my laptop.”

Darren is hardly a paragon of virtue is he - in my opinion his behaviour towards her throughout the whole Sienna debacle was appalling and I wish Nancy hadnt taken him back. The fact that she did indicates to me that she wants to keep the family unit together and is trying to keep the affair quiet in order not to risk that.
ChelseaEllie
19-09-2014
Originally Posted by fairyfruitcake:
“Darren is hardly a paragon of virtue is he - in my opinion his behaviour towards her throughout the whole Sienna debacle was appalling and I wish Nancy hadnt taken him back. The fact that she did indicates to me that she wants to keep the family unit together and is trying to keep the affair quiet in order not to risk that.”

She tried to set him up, and get him arrested, I don't think they should have married, she clearly isn't I the place to forgive and forget, and is acting out because of it.
She set him up to suggest he was betting again , and did a lot of what sienna was doing to her to him, she rejected his marriage offer, slept with his brother and then suddenly decided to forgive him and get back with him ( was too fast in my view, should have separated for a while)
fairyfruitcake
19-09-2014
Originally Posted by lady_xanax:
“Exactly. I would have thought a rape victim's sex life would sway the jury, even if it's subconsciously. Maybe it would be relevant if the defendent had had sexual relations in the past with the rapist so they could categorise what type of rape it is but other than that, I think the victim has a right to privacy.”

Its a complex issue and academically really interesting because the attitude of the courts towards the complainant in a rape case is changing as attitudes towards women and sex have changed radically in the last 30 years. It's difficult to discuss this in terms of male on male rape because the first successful case of this was not brought until 1995, by which time attitudes towards female sexuality had changed

Trying to show that the complainant was a woman of dubious sexual morals was the most common form of defence in the past, and the wearing of a short skirt, or a low cut top, flirty behaviour or being drunk would in many cases be accepted as a defence - an indication that the women was "asking for it" or "leading the man on". This is changing because society is nearer to accepting that a woman has the right to say no whatever her sexual history, but we aren't quite at that level of equality yet.

However it is only right that a defendant's barrister should be able to make a case for the defence whatever that might be because not all complainants are truly victim's and not all defendants are guilty, and in English Law we are all innocent until found guilty. Maybe we should treat rape cases differently and hold them in closed courts because for an innocent defendant the consequences of being named publically are equally as distressing as for the victim whose private life gets exposed in court
ChelseaEllie
19-09-2014
Originally Posted by fairyfruitcake:
“Its a complex issue and academically really interesting because the attitude of the courts towards the complainant in a rape case is changing as attitudes towards women and sex have changed radically in the last 30 years. It's difficult to discuss this in terms of male on male rape because the first successful case of this was not brought until 1995, by which time attitudes towards female sexuality had changed

Trying to show that the complainant was a woman of dubious sexual morals was the most common form of defence in the past, and the wearing of a short skirt, or a low cut top, flirty behaviour or being drunk would in many cases be accepted as a defence - an indication that the women was "asking for it" or "leading the man on". This is changing because society is nearer to accepting that a woman has the right to say no whatever her sexual history, but we aren't quite at that level of equality yet.

However it is only right that a defendant's barrister should be able to make a case for the defence whatever that might be because not all complainants are truly victim's and not all defendants are guilty, and in English Law we are all innocent until found guilty. Maybe we should treat rape cases differently and hold them in closed courts because for an innocent defendant the consequences of being named publically are equally as distressing as for the victim whose private life gets exposed in court”

I agree, either way it's hurtful, the falsely accused are tarnished,the victims have their private lives dragged though the courts,having been violated physically they are then violated mentally. A closed court would protect them
fairyfruitcake
19-09-2014
Originally Posted by ChelseaEllie:
“She tried to set him up, and get him arrested, I don't think they should have married, she clearly isn't I the place to forgive and forget, and is acting out because of it.
She set him up to suggest he was betting again , and did a lot of what sienna was doing to her to him, she rejected his marriage offer, slept with his brother and then suddenly decided to forgive him and get back with him ( was too fast in my view, should have separated for a while)”

I agree, I dont see how Nancy could ever really trust Darren again and although I can see why she wanted to make him experience what he put her through in the hope that they could put it behind them and move forward, it was never going to work in the long term
ChelseaEllie
19-09-2014
Originally Posted by fairyfruitcake:
“I agree, I dont see how Nancy could ever really trust Darren again and although I can see why she wanted to make him experience what he put her through in the hope that they could put it behind them and move forward, it was never going to work in the long term”

She was clearly too jaded to even fully move on, it was far too rushed, he asked him to marry her to cover up her heating with rick

So she's slept with her hubby's brother and her hubby's brother so dad
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