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Old 19-09-2014, 02:38
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Its time
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Old 19-09-2014, 03:06
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Get Benedict Wong.
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Old 19-09-2014, 08:32
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I don't think it will happen unfortunely.
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Old 19-09-2014, 09:09
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I don't really think one is needed to be honest. No point casting characters just to tick a box.
I wonder how many English families feature in the TV shows in China...
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Old 19-09-2014, 09:23
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I don't really think one is needed to be honest. No point casting characters just to tick a box.
I wonder how many English families feature in the TV shows in China...
I don't get these sort of comments. You could argue that producers are at trying to tick boxes with every character they cast.

You could say Bert and Ernie were brought in to tick the soap twins box after losing Lucy. You could say Charlie was created to tick the box of giving Fot a family. What's wrong with wanting to have an Anglo-oriental family to see them represented in the show.
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Old 19-09-2014, 09:55
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An to be honest and this is not a stereotype in any way just an observation and an easy way in for a Chinese family is through the food industry.... It is a very popular food and I cant really think of many areas that don't have a Chinese restaurant or take out in/ closely around them .... And I like the addition of new families / people that plod along with the show and don't have a story every week .... Its more realistic
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Old 19-09-2014, 09:57
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I don't get these sort of comments. You could argue that producers are at trying to tick boxes with every character they cast.

You could say Bert and Ernie were brought in to tick the soap twins box after losing Lucy. You could say Charlie was created to tick the box of giving Fot a family. What's wrong with wanting to have an Anglo-oriental family to see them represented in the show.
There is a LOT more said around ethnicity in soaps or lack thereof, I don't see the point in casting just so that the show can say 'look at our diversity'.
Why is it such a big deal what ethnicity a character or a new family is?
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Old 19-09-2014, 10:25
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I don't really think one is needed to be honest. No point casting characters just to tick a box.
I wonder how many English families feature in the TV shows in China...
English Tv is very popular in China.
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Old 19-09-2014, 10:26
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I don't get these sort of comments. You could argue that producers are at trying to tick boxes with every character they cast.

You could say Bert and Ernie were brought in to tick the soap twins box after losing Lucy. You could say Charlie was created to tick the box of giving Fot a family. What's wrong with wanting to have an Anglo-oriental family to see them represented in the show.
Indeed. Chinese are underrepresented in the media.
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Old 19-09-2014, 10:41
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NO! I don't want to see any new characaters for a year or two now, dtc has introduced too many new characaters as it is, and so many of them aren't worth watching (tosh, lee, Donna, etc...) they need to start doing stuff with characaters like max and Masood rather than keep bringing in new characaters.
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Old 19-09-2014, 10:48
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*naughty snigger*

http://youtu.be/HX1YPogNGXA?t=8m16s (watch from when it starts till 9.20)

then

http://youtu.be/HX1YPogNGXA?t=19m27s

I'd love this in Eastenders
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Old 19-09-2014, 11:04
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An to be honest and this is not a stereotype in any way just an observation and an easy way in for a Chinese family is through the food industry.... It is a very popular food and I cant really think of many areas that don't have a Chinese restaurant or take out in/ closely around them .... And I like the addition of new families / people that plod along with the show and don't have a story every week .... Its more realistic
Although very stereotypical, it could be a great way to introduce a Chinese family - nearly every London postcode has a chinese takeaway/restaurant and a new one could open up on Turpin road or replace the Argee Bhajee. But I feel restaurateurs largely fail in Soaps because of the restriction of the occupation, there's not much to do.

There is a LOT more said around ethnicity in soaps or lack thereof, I don't see the point in casting just so that the show can say 'look at our diversity'.
Why is it such a big deal what ethnicity a character or a new family is?
I think it's to do with the viewers, the demographics and cultures of people who watch the show and also the argument that EE doesn't represent real life East End.

If you look at Channel 4's "Educating the East End", a real life depiction of the East End, arguably a Channel 4 primetime East End show........and then compare it with EE, a BBC primetime East End show....I rest my case. You can't really argue any further
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Old 19-09-2014, 11:48
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Although very stereotypical, it could be a great way to introduce a Chinese family - nearly every London postcode has a chinese takeaway/restaurant and a new one could open up on Turpin road or replace the Argee Bhajee. But I feel restaurateurs largely fail in Soaps because of the restriction of the occupation, there's not much to do.



I think it's to do with the viewers, the demographics and cultures of people who watch the show and also the argument that EE doesn't represent real life East End.

If you look at Channel 4's "Educating the East End", a real life depiction of the East End, arguably a Channel 4 primetime East End show........and then compare it with EE, a BBC primetime East End show....I rest my case. You can't really argue any further
Anyone can argue further, because one is a documentary and the other is a fictional drama entertainment series
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Old 19-09-2014, 11:49
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How about a Chinese family takes over the laundrette, and discover a basement, which they start using as a funeral parlour? The dad is a big businessman and wants his son to be aswell, but the son is an aspiring ballet dancer. The mum is very moral, and a bit of a busy body, and quite snobbish at times. The sister is a goth.

They host a musical wash a long for charity to boost business and wear fancy costumes etc to relaunch the laundrette.
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Old 19-09-2014, 11:50
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Why don't they axe the Carters and bring in an American family? (rolleyes)
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Old 19-09-2014, 12:19
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Has a a comma been missed from the title? - 'Time for a Chinese, family'. I am sure there would be a Chinese takeaway near to Walford where the family could order their supper.
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Old 19-09-2014, 13:54
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Anyone can argue further, because one is a documentary and the other is a fictional drama entertainment series
I definitely understand the two programmes are of a different genre, I didn't need a bold highlight to understand this. My point is to do with portrayal, depiction and reflection; a fictional drama series can still present the truths that a documentary presents. Could a fictional drama series be as realistic as a documentary? Should a fictional drama series not have the ability to inform as a documentary does, like through the social issues EE explores?

Just because something is fictional, doesn't mean it can't delve into the realms of realism.

"We don't make life, we reflect it...We decided to go for a realistic, fairly outspoken type of drama which could encompass stories about homosexuality, rape, unemployment, racial prejudice, etc., in a believable context. Above all, we wanted realism" (Julia Smith, Co-Creator, EastEnders)
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Old 20-09-2014, 01:34
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NO 'token 'casting please
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Old 20-09-2014, 01:40
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NO 'token 'casting please
isn't token black?
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Old 20-09-2014, 01:52
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It would be good, they'd offer another take away menu to the Albert Square residents if nothing else
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Old 20-09-2014, 11:22
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I definitely understand the two programmes are of a different genre, I didn't need a bold highlight to understand this. My point is to do with portrayal, depiction and reflection; a fictional drama series can still present the truths that a documentary presents. Could a fictional drama series be as realistic as a documentary? Should a fictional drama series not have the ability to inform as a documentary does, like through the social issues EE explores?

Just because something is fictional, doesn't mean it can't delve into the realms of realism.

"We don't make life, we reflect it...We decided to go for a realistic, fairly outspoken type of drama which could encompass stories about homosexuality, rape, unemployment, racial prejudice, etc., in a believable context. Above all, we wanted realism" (Julia Smith, Co-Creator, EastEnders)
Fair point. But on the other hand, I think the producers are really only interested in bringing in characters that are going to be entertaining, dramatic and will appeal to the masses.
I doubt a chinese family would fit that bill. Also I doubt they'd have the same impact on the audience as have for example, Kat and Alfie, Den and Angie, Pat and Frank, and countless others
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Old 20-09-2014, 11:32
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I wouldnt want a chinese family but I wouldnt mind a new family who happen to be Chinese.
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Old 22-09-2014, 00:10
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Fair point. But on the other hand, I think the producers are really only interested in bringing in characters that are going to be entertaining, dramatic and will appeal to the masses.
I doubt a chinese family would fit that bill. Also I doubt they'd have the same impact on the audience as have for example, Kat and Alfie, Den and Angie, Pat and Frank, and countless others
It depends on the casting and how well the characters are created, as well as the storylines they portray. Lots of aspects other than race, I hope people on this forum don't assume these types of threads of late have all been about token casting
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Old 22-09-2014, 01:23
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I don't really think one is needed to be honest. No point casting characters just to tick a box.
I wonder how many English families feature in the TV shows in China...
I'm guessing that you think none. It's not really a case of tit for tat, the "If your country of origin shows f*ck all of our "kind" then we will show none of yours" mentality.
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Old 22-09-2014, 03:37
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No. The timing is bad. The Carters have taken centre stage and are likely to remain there until the current EP leaves. A new family unrelated to the Carters would get limited screen time. I would prefer to see the characters who've been neglected get some attention before another new family is introduced.
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