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Tried watching Netflix today, but it wouldn't let me log in until I changed my DNS address from Unblock US to my original UK DNS. Amazon did the same weirdly enough. I tried a few things that people suggested, but it didn't work. Looks like they're clamping down already
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Netflix has been playing up for me a lot today menus just hang or don't load
I just tried to use Amazon prime and it says I can't watch anything as I must be in the uk ? Tried changing unblock us to uk region but Amazon prime still has that message. Sigh it was good while it lasted
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Netflix has been playing up for me a lot today menus just hang or don't load
I just tried to use Amazon prime and it says I can't watch anything as I must be in the uk ? Tried changing unblock us to uk region but Amazon prime still has that message. Sigh it was good while it lasted ![]() Regarding the Prime problem, what platform are you using? I just finished watching something on Prime UK, and it worked fine for me (from Germany), so Smart DNS is working fine there. It is possible your device's cache needs to be cleared, and perhaps your device rebooted. |
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Tried watching Netflix today, but it wouldn't let me log in until I changed my DNS address from Unblock US to my original UK DNS. Amazon did the same weirdly enough. I tried a few things that people suggested, but it didn't work. Looks like they're clamping down already
![]() At this rate I'll end up having to cancel all my streaming services. I travel quite a lot between countries and faffing around like this is just not acceptable. It's not like there aren't other solutions available. The only real losers in the end are going to be the companies acting like arseholes. |
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#255 |
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I can still get into US netflix via unblock-us on my (3rd gen) Apple tv, same as usual. This is apparently the screen you see if you're region blocked- http://torrentfreak.com/images/netflix-vpn-error.png
"We are aware of the announcement and should our service be affected at any time, we will make adjustments" appears to be the only thing unblock-us is saying about it at present. |
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"We are aware of the announcement and should our service be affected at any time, we will make adjustments" appears to be the only thing unblock-us is saying about it at present. |
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Murdoch is only a minority shareholder of Sky, he doesn't run the company.
Of course if Netflix got the first run windows that Sky have, then their prices would rocket. £8 for Sky Movies (if you take sport, which the majority of Sky Movies customers do) is not bad. You get 3D too. NOW TV however is an alternative to the satellite platform, much cheaper but the quality is not consistent. |
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My NF was working fine last night, watched How to get away with murder on US, using unblock us
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Canada's out for me.
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My NF was working fine last night, watched How to get away with murder on US, using unblock us
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It was definitely US or Canada can't remember which, but I used it all weekend with no problems, so fingers x
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It was definitely US or Canada can't remember which, but I used it all weekend with no problems, so fingers x
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Anyone else having problems with Canada?
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Netflix still working fine for me on US/Canada and other regions.
I won't cancel my NF sub if the block thats been talked about works by blocking all SmartDNS and VPN access to multi regional content, as there's still plenty to watch on UK NF. Plus if you have an active sub you can still access local content while travelling in any of the regions that NF is currently available. All I can say is that I'm glad I'm not working in support for the many different DNS and VPN providers with all the customers panicking about not being able to watch US NF anymore. The way some folk complain its like they've lost their right arm. "Oh my God I cannot live without my US Netflix" ![]() If NF do succeed in finding a way to completely block access to users bypassing geo restrictions whether by use of DNS or VPN, good for them. We've had it good for a few years now and this was always a 'cat n mouse' game with the service providers. Nothing lasts forever. Expect to see all the other providers following NF's direction if NF are successful with this. |
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Netflix still working fine for me on US/Canada and other regions.
I won't cancel my NF sub if the block thats been talked about works by blocking all SmartDNS and VPN access to multi regional content, as there's still plenty to watch on UK NF. Plus if you have an active sub you can still access local content while travelling in any of the regions that NF is currently available. All I can say is that I'm glad I'm not working in support for the many different DNS and VPN providers with all the customers panicking about not being able to watch US NF anymore. The way some folk complain its like they've lost their right arm. "Oh my God I cannot live without my US Netflix" ![]() If NF do succeed in finding a way to completely block access to users bypassing geo restrictions whether by use of DNS or VPN, good for them. We've had it good for a few years now and this was always a 'cat n mouse' game with the service providers. Nothing lasts forever. Expect to see all the other providers following NF's direction if NF are successful with this. |
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#266 |
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How is it good for them? We are all paying a Netflix subscription so why should certain regions have more content? Yes before you say something I know it isn't Netflix's fault it is the fault of the stupid minded rights holders. The fact is some content isn't even available through other means. United States of Tara has never been on UK TV and if I hadn't have watched it on US Netflix I would have had to have downloaded it through an illegal site. How is this preferable for the rights holders? Also considering Hulu and BBC iplayer have tried numerous times and failed to block DNS/VPN I can't see how Netflix is any different?
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Reading this board, anyone would think rights for each country is a new thing. It happens for lots of things. Films, music, food etc. We're not all one world.
It really is only television and films. If companies tried to do what they do with films and TV in almost any other industry, the monopoly's commission would be brought in to investigate. |
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Food? How are there licensing issues for foods? Music is 99% region free. Basically, 99% of radio stations around the world stream globally and what you get on Spotify is almost identical to what the Americans get.
It really is only television and films. If companies tried to do what they do with films and TV in almost any other industry, the monopoly's commission would be brought in to investigate. |
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Certain food products are launched in different territories at different times. Certain Video Game machines are launched at different times. iPhones have a staggered release worldwide. Listen, I am not disagreeing with you, it's just strange that people are talking about it like it's a new thing.
It's the same with video game machine launches. Yes, let's say the Xbox One is not sold in country B, but there is no licensing agreement that forbids someone from buying that from overseas. Movies and TV shows are different. They have licensing agreements made between the various companies that create the content, distribute the content and broadcast (or stream) the content, and this goes way back - which is why DVD's even had region blocks on DVD players. |
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^^Slightly different food is often not released in one country or another due to different tastes, or an already established competitor etc. Tech it's usually down to manufacturing output and which countries will give the tech the biggest amount of publicity etc.
But TV and Films are easy to constrict to certain countries so they can and do. |
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But TV and Films are easy to constrict to certain countries so they can and do.
One of the problems in today’s incredible world of television is that it is hampered, restricted and effectively strangled by its very own past. These days there is no technical reason why we can’t just watch any and every television channel on the planet, let alone pay for and subscribe to all of the various SVOD services that exist. If I want to watch Prime in the US, Stan in Australia, Watchever in Germany or Now TV in the UK, both the technological ability, and my credit card are there and waiting. The problem is that the television industry still effectively clings on to methods developed by the very first innovators of TV three quarters of a century ago. Way back when television began, broadcasts were limited by how far signals could travel. Combine this with language barriers across borders along with incompatible systems such as PAL, NTSC and SECAM, and a recipe for division and separate markets was formed. Each country became an individual entity, and licensing deals were sold to each separate region for broadcast rights. No-one criticised this system because there were no practical methods around it – geographical, cultural, political and technical restrictions triumphed over free-market enterprise. When satellite broadcasts became common place late last century, this (unofficially) opened up viewing options to a limited degree, but really only for smaller countries close to each other like in Europe. New Zealanders still couldn’t watch Australian TV let alone Brits tuning in to US satellites. But the Internet changed everything. There are no natural borders on the world wide web, and even the PAL, NTSC, SECAM restriction is now a thing of the past. But the television industry is not one that embraces change all that quickly and easily. This is the reason there are still restrictions today, and why it is specifically in the television and film industry. |
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This is the reason there are still restrictions today, and why it is specifically in the television and film industry.
Of course, it's inconvenient for the viewers, but the programme makers are commercial businesses, and they'll always go for the most profitable approach. They are the ones blocking distribution, not the broadcasters. |
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I'd say it's not technical, nor a hangover from technical predecessors, it's purely money. Why would a content provider sell a programme once to one worldwide country when they can sell it a dozen times to a dozen country-specific suppliers.
Of course, it's inconvenient for the viewers, but the programme makers are commercial businesses, and they'll always go for the most profitable approach. They are the ones blocking distribution, not the broadcasters. The other issue is small retailers buying content for their small home markets, and needing to pay less for rights to content. It is clear all retailers in the future who want to be involved in streaming will have to pay the very high price of global rights! This is all a ruse by Netfix their business model is too dependent on cross region piracy. |
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#274 |
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Interesting report this morning on BBC News this morning that the EU are looking at challenging geo blocking because they consider it to be anti competitive. May not be much help for those that want to access US or Canada Netflix but could be helpful for some of the regions within the EU.
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Sky stopped reporting the breakdown of their subscribers, the last reported figures were in 2010 where 4.5 million subscribed to sports out of 9.85 million with an increase of 2 million today, I would expect that sport has kept the same ratio so probably still only half.
NOW TV however is an alternative to the satellite platform, much cheaper but the quality is not consistent. Both NOW TV and Netflix as global broadcast services should pay global rights costs and both be retailed at much higher cost! |
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