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Old 29-03-2016, 13:17
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I think theirs multiple things going on. When using unotelly adfreetime etc eventually it seemed they locked my account from accessing any other regions. ( my American friebd could not log into my account and kept getting ''this content is not avaible in your region (gb) )

Being lucky at it got in to the borderless internet free trial to july This has worked amazingly accept from a few down times here and their. All content works ( Girlfriend currently watching lost girl on the ps3 has watched up to season 3 since starting to use BI) All in all I think borderless internet have cracked it. It works on all devices I've tested ps4 ps3 samsung tv finlux tv youview box xb1 s6. Aprently they are using and ip method.

Also for those having problems with getting it to work on playstation or any other device just simply make sure your on wired and most important put the dns in your router until I did this I got no where and was ready to give up !
Agree with you about borderless internet which is doing a great job so far. The only problem seems to be with the Canada region which has been removed until a better provider is found.

I haven't input the dns settings in my router, just the PS3 and all works well.
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Old 29-03-2016, 14:26
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Agree with you about borderless internet which is doing a great job so far. The only problem seems to be with the Canada region which has been removed until a better provider is found.

I haven't input the dns settings in my router, just the PS3 and all works well.
A shame no one can actually sign up at the moment then because until further notice they are not signing up new customers.
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Old 29-03-2016, 14:31
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Hi

I actually registered for borderless a few weeks ago and did post earlier in this thread.

It seems they have actually improved on my initial experience.

Netflix usa now works fine (on my roku - smart tv and ps3) - hulu works fine - still no comcast but not too sure thats a priority for them at the moment.

DNS Changed is asus ac68u router for all devices.

Dave
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Old 29-03-2016, 14:35
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Hi

I actually registered for borderless a few weeks ago and did post earlier in this thread.

It seems they have actually improved on my initial experience.

Netflix usa now works fine (on my roku - smart tv and ps3) - hulu works fine - still no comcast but not too sure thats a priority for them at the moment.

DNS Changed is asus ac68u router for all devices.

Dave
I forgot that i had registered with them a while back i tested them last night but i decided to use a Canadian vpn as borderless dont have a Canadian option
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Old 29-03-2016, 14:58
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I forgot that i had registered with them a while back i tested them last night but i decided to use a Canadian vpn as borderless dont have a Canadian option
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They do have canadian but have taken it down at moment as its not working.

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Old 30-03-2016, 22:13
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Proxmate works apparently: https://proxmate.me

Haven't tried it yet but they have a free trial and only around £7 for a years sub.
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Old 31-03-2016, 08:56
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I was on Netflix last night and I think I now understand whats going on and unfortunately no matter what DNS services will do, it is no longer a viable option. Needless to say, i could be talking BS and feel free to correct if I'm wrong.

Yesterday I accessed the US Netflix and thought, so far so good, but when I tried to play US only series (Frasier) I kept on getting error to the effect that it is not available. I then went and played Breaking Bad, it loaded without an issue. I tried the same operation on different content and the same results occurred. This leads me to believe that Netflix have changed their policies/permissions and now what they do is let you access any region and see their catalogue but will only be allowed to play shared content between the region you are accessing and your home region.
They now check which is your home region and what is available.
Basically now Netflix looks at your home region and checks whether the content is available on it, if yes then it will stream it for you. I believe users who are still accessing other regions content have not been migrated and that is why they are not affected yet.

I'm still trying to figure out the following 2 scenarios and how would the system behave.

1. US subscriber in the UK accessing Netflix, will they be able to play all UK content or only shared content between both region?

2. US subscriber in the UK using DNS service to access the home region, will they be blocked or allowed to play all of the US catalogue?

Netflix should really introduce new pricing plans for people who want multi region support, something like allowing users to access the home region + 2 other regions for x amount of money and a minimum contract length and another plan to access all regions on the same basis. End of the day at least the content providers will get something rather than get their content downloaded/pirated the hell out of because of their outdated business models.
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Old 31-03-2016, 12:12
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I was on Netflix last night and I think I now understand whats going on and unfortunately no matter what DNS services will do, it is no longer a viable option. Needless to say, i could be talking BS and feel free to correct if I'm wrong.

Yesterday I accessed the US Netflix and thought, so far so good, but when I tried to play US only series (Frasier) I kept on getting error to the effect that it is not available. I then went and played Breaking Bad, it loaded without an issue. I tried the same operation on different content and the same results occurred. This leads me to believe that Netflix have changed their policies/permissions and now what they do is let you access any region and see their catalogue but will only be allowed to play shared content between the region you are accessing and your home region.
They now check which is your home region and what is available.
Basically now Netflix looks at your home region and checks whether the content is available on it, if yes then it will stream it for you. I believe users who are still accessing other regions content have not been migrated and that is why they are not affected yet.

I'm still trying to figure out the following 2 scenarios and how would the system behave.

1. US subscriber in the UK accessing Netflix, will they be able to play all UK content or only shared content between both region?

2. US subscriber in the UK using DNS service to access the home region, will they be blocked or allowed to play all of the US catalogue?

Netflix should really introduce new pricing plans for people who want multi region support, something like allowing users to access the home region + 2 other regions for x amount of money and a minimum contract length and another plan to access all regions on the same basis. End of the day at least the content providers will get something rather than get their content downloaded/pirated the hell out of because of their outdated business models.
Sorry I think you are wrong. At my workplace they use a proxy which is based in the United States and my UK account can still access all the titles from the US. I watched an episode of Alias from it yesterday. If I try to access Netflix at home through Unotelly I get the proxy detected message even if I select the UK region. It seems that Netflix are targeting IP addresses where numerous different people are using Netflix from?
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Old 31-03-2016, 12:53
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Finally got the proxy message using getflix today trying to access the US region
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Old 01-04-2016, 18:19
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getting the message finally now and if you are in another country, you can play a movie / tv series that is available in the UK. I.E. breaking bad, once upon a time
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Old 01-04-2016, 20:15
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Looks like Ad-freetime have admitted defeat and have no plans to get past the Netflix block!!!

https://www.reddit.com/r/adfreetime/...here_we_stand/


Think I'll be cancelling my sub with them... and maybe even with netflix
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Old 02-04-2016, 08:43
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A shame no one can actually sign up at the moment then because until further notice they are not signing up new customers.
They're accepting new registrations again, albeit only this time it's a 7 or possibly 14 day trial.

https://www.reddit.com/r/borderlessi..._new/?sort=new
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Old 02-04-2016, 13:38
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They're accepting new registrations again, albeit only this time it's a 7 or possibly 14 day trial.

https://www.reddit.com/r/borderlessi..._new/?sort=new
My Unotelly subscription doesn't end until August hence my annoyance. To be fair though US Test 5 appears to be working again on Unotelly. But how long this will be for I don't though? I think Netflix have been more successful at blocking than any of us thought. Personally I think the only way to watch other Netflix regions in the future is to use a private VPN/Proxy?
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Old 02-04-2016, 19:53
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I was on Netflix last night and I think I now understand whats going on and unfortunately no matter what DNS services will do, it is no longer a viable option. Needless to say, i could be talking BS and feel free to correct if I'm wrong.

Yesterday I accessed the US Netflix and thought, so far so good, but when I tried to play US only series (Frasier) I kept on getting error to the effect that it is not available. I then went and played Breaking Bad, it loaded without an issue. I tried the same operation on different content and the same results occurred. This leads me to believe that Netflix have changed their policies/permissions and now what they do is let you access any region and see their catalogue but will only be allowed to play shared content between the region you are accessing and your home region.
They now check which is your home region and what is available.
Basically now Netflix looks at your home region and checks whether the content is available on it, if yes then it will stream it for you. I believe users who are still accessing other regions content have not been migrated and that is why they are not affected yet.

I'm still trying to figure out the following 2 scenarios and how would the system behave.

1. US subscriber in the UK accessing Netflix, will they be able to play all UK content or only shared content between both region?

2. US subscriber in the UK using DNS service to access the home region, will they be blocked or allowed to play all of the US catalogue?

Netflix should really introduce new pricing plans for people who want multi region support, something like allowing users to access the home region + 2 other regions for x amount of money and a minimum contract length and another plan to access all regions on the same basis. End of the day at least the content providers will get something rather than get their content downloaded/pirated the hell out of because of their outdated business models.
I was thinking along the lines of you in end. As I pointed out in a few of my posts I've had multiple different errors most notably the one you describe. (US libary loading only GB content working ) This was until I started using borderless internet.

I do think they've got multiple checks going on but as borderless internet have proofed it's not impossible to bypass.
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Old 02-04-2016, 22:50
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I can't get borderless internet to work on anything but my chromebook it just kills all internet on the Roku and on my LG smart tv it blocks access to Netflix.
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Old 02-04-2016, 23:10
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I'm ready to give up on the unblockers now. It looks like the studios have won this round. I'm sticking with Netflix though because killing Netflix is what they want. They'll try and replace it with every studio offering their own streaming service, which is obviously not a consumer-friendly solution, or one that's sustainable, but it's what happens when companies think only of what's best for them.

I'm hoping they'll eventually realise it makes far more sense to be more like the music streaming services, though even these aren't perfect by any means.
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Old 03-04-2016, 02:50
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Darn it, getting the proxy message when trying to view a film so came here, I use unblock.us. Today is the first day I got the message.
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:05
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Hi, I'm running unblock us with my Apple TV and don't seem to be able to watch anything except uk Netflix. All I get is an error message saying Netflix is unavailable or that there's an 'authfailure'

Does this mean that Netflix has restricted me to uk only?

I pay yearly in advance for my unblock us, so what happens to that if the service no longer works?
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:15
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Hi, I'm running unblock us with my Apple TV and don't seem to be able to watch anything except uk Netflix. All I get is an error message saying Netflix is unavailable or that there's an 'authfailure'

Does this mean that Netflix has restricted me to uk only?

I pay yearly in advance for my unblock us, so what happens to that if the service no longer works?
I am in the same position. My understanding is they will refund any unused months if you cancel.
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:17
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I'm ready to give up on the unblockers now. It looks like the studios have won this round. I'm sticking with Netflix though because killing Netflix is what they want. They'll try and replace it with every studio offering their own streaming service, which is obviously not a consumer-friendly solution, or one that's sustainable, but it's what happens when companies think only of what's best for them.

I'm hoping they'll eventually realise it makes far more sense to be more like the music streaming services, though even these aren't perfect by any means.
Slightly melodramatic. They don't want to kill Netflix in the slightest. They won't it's a massive company. They just want people to watch whatever's on their region. Not saying I agree with it, but to say it's killing Netflix is rather silly.
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Old 03-04-2016, 18:43
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I won't be cancelling my smart dns as i use it for other things such as HULU but i have temporarly cancelled Netflix until a work around can be found or the UK library improves greatly.
That said i probably will re-subscribe to Netflix in near future as they have a lot of good looking original stuff coming up also there'll be s3 of from dusk til dawn etc.
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Old 03-04-2016, 19:19
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I am in the same position. My understanding is they will refund any unused months if you cancel.
I jus read on Reddit that unblock us are refusing to refund any annual premiums unless they are within 30 days of the subscription being taken. Since mine was taken mid January, I'm guessing that they'll just say "tough" and keep my money.

Their Twitter feed is full of people asking what to do, they just give the same two stock responses "have you tried contacting support, they'll help you" or "we're currently working a few days behind schedule but we will respond". I got a "we're currently receiving higher levels of correspondence than normal" response to my email.

My daughter refused to pay upfront for her fees because she believes they knew this was coming and would just continue to take people's subscriptions anyway, but I trusted them as their customer service up until now had been exemplary. I hope my trust isn't proved unfounded.

Mine actually stopped working sometime in March but it's taken me this long to realise what the issue is as I've been too busy to actually watch much tv for the past few weeks.

I'm not sure that there's anything I can actually do if the service is not resumed and I don't receive a refund, but what I can do is cancel my Netflix subscription and go back to streaming torrents instead I guess
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Old 03-04-2016, 20:53
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I jus read on Reddit that unblock us are refusing to refund any annual premiums unless they are within 30 days of the subscription being taken. Since mine was taken mid January, I'm guessing that they'll just say "tough" and keep my money.

Their Twitter feed is full of people asking what to do, they just give the same two stock responses "have you tried contacting support, they'll help you" or "we're currently working a few days behind schedule but we will respond". I got a "we're currently receiving higher levels of correspondence than normal" response to my email.

My daughter refused to pay upfront for her fees because she believes they knew this was coming and would just continue to take people's subscriptions anyway, but I trusted them as their customer service up until now had been exemplary. I hope my trust isn't proved unfounded.

Mine actually stopped working sometime in March but it's taken me this long to realise what the issue is as I've been too busy to actually watch much tv for the past few weeks.

I'm not sure that there's anything I can actually do if the service is not resumed and I don't receive a refund, but what I can do is cancel my Netflix subscription and go back to streaming torrents instead I guess
Did you pay using PayPal by any chance?
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Old 03-04-2016, 20:58
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I jus read on Reddit that unblock us are refusing to refund any annual premiums unless they are within 30 days of the subscription being taken. Since mine was taken mid January, I'm guessing that they'll just say "tough" and keep my money.

Their Twitter feed is full of people asking what to do, they just give the same two stock responses "have you tried contacting support, they'll help you" or "we're currently working a few days behind schedule but we will respond". I got a "we're currently receiving higher levels of correspondence than normal" response to my email.

My daughter refused to pay upfront for her fees because she believes they knew this was coming and would just continue to take people's subscriptions anyway, but I trusted them as their customer service up until now had been exemplary. I hope my trust isn't proved unfounded.

Mine actually stopped working sometime in March but it's taken me this long to realise what the issue is as I've been too busy to actually watch much tv for the past few weeks.

I'm not sure that there's anything I can actually do if the service is not resumed and I don't receive a refund, but what I can do is cancel my Netflix subscription and go back to streaming torrents instead I guess
Had this issue with unlocator last year they refused to refund me but i was in my cooling off period i got paypal involved and got a full refund. If you used paypal get them involved you should get a full refund.
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Old 04-04-2016, 06:34
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Did you pay using PayPal by any chance?
Had this issue with unlocator last year they refused to refund me but i was in my cooling off period i got paypal involved and got a full refund. If you used paypal get them involved you should get a full refund.
Unblock US were kicked off PayPal I believe. My annual subscription automatically comes off my debit card in mid January of each year. I would prefer a working solution to be honest as I've been very happy with their service up until now.
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