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Old 03-02-2015, 12:14
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So you paid for an app by a 3rd party app developer, that is in no way associated to Unblock us, where the mobile site that Gonzo linked to is like an app and is provided by Unblock us, and best of all its FREE.

Your choice I guess as its your cash
Yes the App is 3rd party, but it is free

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...nager&hl=en_GB
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Old 03-02-2015, 14:49
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Why bother though?

As already mentioned in the thread, there is no need to use Unblock-US (or similar service) via the router - just set the DNS on the actual device(s) you use Netflix on instead.
In my case it's because the BBC IPlayer app disappears from my Sony BluRay when the Netflix DNS is used, even when the UnblockUS area is set to UK.

A quick physical patch between the HH5 and a second router will be much easier than delving into the Sony menu each time I want to change over.
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Old 03-02-2015, 16:57
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I use Netflix with Cactus VPN smart DNS service on my laptop, tablet, smart TV and PS3, and have noticed recently that I am getting the "Netflix is not available in your location" message a lot more. Is anyone else seeing this?

I think, despite the protestations of Netflix, they are actually starting to crack down on VPN/DNS use.
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Old 03-02-2015, 17:47
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I use Netflix with Cactus VPN smart DNS service on my laptop, tablet, smart TV and PS3, and have noticed recently that I am getting the "Netflix is not available in your location" message a lot more. Is anyone else seeing this?

I think, despite the protestations of Netflix, they are actually starting to crack down on VPN/DNS use.

As that message seems to come and go, I think its just an error that can simply be resolved by restarting the app.
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Old 03-02-2015, 18:22
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I use Netflix with Cactus VPN smart DNS service on my laptop, tablet, smart TV and PS3, and have noticed recently that I am getting the "Netflix is not available in your location" message a lot more. Is anyone else seeing this?

I think, despite the protestations of Netflix, they are actually starting to crack down on VPN/DNS use.
Nope, never had it appear.
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Old 04-02-2015, 00:56
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I can connect to all Netflix countries with tunnelbear no problem, sometimes a few tries when on giffgaff mobile and no probs on virgin broadband wifi

https://www.tunnelbear.com/
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Old 04-02-2015, 09:58
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In my case it's because the BBC IPlayer app disappears from my Sony BluRay when the Netflix DNS is used, even when the UnblockUS area is set to UK.

A quick physical patch between the HH5 and a second router will be much easier than delving into the Sony menu each time I want to change over.
You do realise that the Unblock us region switcher on the homepage is ONLY for Netflix don't you?

You could do what you want, by setting up your own router to use with the HH5, will take a bit to set up, but can work as I did it myself on the odd time I used the HH5.
I much prefer to use my own router anyway with an openreach modem.
But then I run 4 different networks at home, and all of them using different DNS and or VPN's so I have the best of all worlds.

You just need to make sure that you can change the DHCP of the new router so that its running a different IP range to the one used by the HH5.

HH5 uses - 192.168.1.XX
So your other router would need to be on something like - 192.168.0.XX so there's no conflict between routers.
The 2nd router also has to be set up as Dynamic IP so that it gets allocated a LAN IP from the HH5 and this 2nd router will not control your internet connection.

Make sure when you change between routers that you update the video content so the UK apps are displayed again

Something like a NowTV box might be easier though, and is cheaper than a 2nd router and is simply plug n play
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Old 04-02-2015, 10:52
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As that message seems to come and go, I think its just an error that can simply be resolved by restarting the app.
Might try uninstalling and re-installing the app.
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Old 04-02-2015, 13:26
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You do realise that the Unblock us region switcher on the homepage is ONLY for Netflix don't you?

You could do what you want, by setting up your own router to use with the HH5, will take a bit to set up, but can work as I did it myself on the odd time I used the HH5.
I much prefer to use my own router anyway with an openreach modem.
But then I run 4 different networks at home, and all of them using different DNS and or VPN's so I have the best of all worlds.

You just need to make sure that you can change the DHCP of the new router so that its running a different IP range to the one used by the HH5.

HH5 uses - 192.168.1.XX
So your other router would need to be on something like - 192.168.0.XX so there's no conflict between routers.
The 2nd router also has to be set up as Dynamic IP so that it gets allocated a LAN IP from the HH5 and this 2nd router will not control your internet connection.

Make sure when you change between routers that you update the video content so the UK apps are displayed again

Something like a NowTV box might be easier though, and is cheaper than a 2nd router and is simply plug n play
Thanks for all that info. I really wish I'd read your post before installing the router this morning but after some head scratching I managed eventually and have ended up with 2 subnets exactly as you have suggested and everything is now working as intended.

The TPLink is not a bad router for £17 delivered.
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Old 08-02-2015, 14:15
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It was only a matter of time before they started clamping down on the VPN/DNS users as around half of the Netflix subscribers seem to be doing it. I've only ever done it on my tablet as it sounded more complicated on my laptop and blu-ray player and I only used it to access the US version. Have to say I wasn't amazed by the content available on the US equivalent especially the TV shows, the film selection was better but lately it seems UK Netflix have updated their film library a lot bringing it much closer to what the US version offers.
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Old 21-02-2015, 09:55
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means vpn will not work for netflix? so how we can access netflix outside us because it is banned in other countries? i was using vpnranks for getting best providers details now i hope it will work in my region.
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Old 26-02-2015, 12:15
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so how we can access netflix outside us because it is banned in other countries?
The same way we did it before, with SmartDNS/VPN, it never stopped working, incorrect information and people kneejerk panicking.
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Old 26-02-2015, 12:45
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As soon as my vpn gets blocked i will cancel my netflix

and just watch for free on showbox.
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Old 26-02-2015, 13:09
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and me. no vpn. no netflix.
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Old 27-02-2015, 20:47
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Torrentfreak reports the EU Commissioner for the Digital Single Market, Andrus Ansip, wants geoblocking made illegal- http://torrentfreak.com/eu-commissio...ocking-150227/
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Old 08-04-2015, 11:59
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Netflix have changed updated the T's & C's.
Article 6C
You may view a movie or TV show through the Netflix service primarily within the country in which you have established your account and only in geographic locations where we offer our service and have licensed such movie or TV show. The content that may be available to watch will vary by geographic location. Netflix will use technologies to verify your geographic location.
Article 6H
We may terminate or restrict your use of our service, without compensation or notice if you are, or if we suspect that you are (i) in violation of any of these Terms of Use or (ii) engaged in illegal or improper use of the service.
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Old 08-04-2015, 22:31
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If Netflix starts closing accounts - which I doubt they'll do - hopefully they will do it in this order.

- Those subscribers from non-Netflix regions using VPN's, for example China, Spain, Russia etc. Should keep them busy.

- Then VPN users from official Netflix regions.

- Then SmartDNS users, like me.

Of course they may end up offering a Global service in a few years time which would solve everything. This article was quite interesting.
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Old 08-04-2015, 22:39
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Of course they may end up offering a Global service in a few years time which would solve everything. This article was quite interesting.
It may solve everything regarding VPN use, but what then happens if a certain broadcaster in any given country gets exclusivity rights to show something on their channels, does that then mean that it cannot be shown in any Netflix region at all?
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Old 09-04-2015, 06:06
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I don't think they'll ever have a 'global service'. It's just not possible. In the UK for example a lot of film rights are sewn up by Sky. Netflix are not going to deny the rest of the world these films, just because they haven't/can't get the rights in the UK.

I imagine these new T&Cs might just be paying lip service to rights holders in various countries and may not actually be enforced. Fingers crossed anyway.
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Old 09-04-2015, 11:33
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I don't think they'll ever have a 'global service'. It's just not possible. In the UK for example a lot of film rights are sewn up by Sky. Netflix are not going to deny the rest of the world these films, just because they haven't/can't get the rights in the UK.

I imagine these new T&Cs might just be paying lip service to rights holders in various countries and may not actually be enforced. Fingers crossed anyway.
If Netflix did start closing accounts they would lose a lot of custom and in turn a lot of revenue too, they most likely updated their t+cs just to sweeten up the studios a bit.
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Old 09-04-2015, 18:09
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I would expect a high-profile case of someone being kicked off the service and used as an "example" in order to appease the studios, and then Netflix quietly forgetting about it.
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Old 09-04-2015, 18:19
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If Netflix do start monitoring what we're up to ie traveling to different countries with lightning speed, then one way around it is to add extra profiles and just make sure you use each profile for your preferred regions. That way it should raise less suspicion.
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Old 09-04-2015, 18:59
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If Netflix do start monitoring what we're up to ie traveling to different countries with lightning speed, then one way around it is to add extra profiles and just make sure you use each profile for your preferred regions. That way it should raise less suspicion.
If they closed my account for using a vpn then so be it, there are other ways to get the content.
It really would be a case of cutting of their nose to spite their face, however i don't think netflix would close accounts i think the change is to stop studios moaning.
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Old 09-04-2015, 19:38
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It's not even a recent change (been there since 2013) according to this

http://blog.unotelly.com/2015/04/net...true-or-false/
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Old 09-04-2015, 20:03
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Netflix for a global media giant are a decent company and a bullwark against Beelzebub, all this has arisen because of too much talk about it, Netflix will be forced into taking action, probably not a good idea to publicise/boast about any work arounds.
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