So it wasn't about the judges when Sharon threw water in Louis' face on live national television or when Simon and Sharon kissed after Leona's performance or when Louis quit because of his treatment in series 2?

And when it became to four it was Sharon walking off set because two of her acts were in the bottom 2 at the end of the day...

You're very excitable

You've just named one of the X Factor's most memorable moments D (is it D for Dannii?) Well done

Of course you miss the point that myself and Hitstastic make - about it being more about the glitz and the glamour than the contestants.

Bringing Dannii and then Cheryl to the show changed all that - there is too much emphasis on the judges now, particularly the female judges.

There was always emphasis on the female judge. Sharon was seen as the "boss" during the early years.

The reason the press started to focus more on the female judges was two reasons.
Number one was the absolute EMBARRASSMENT Sharon Osbourne made of herself by slagging Dannii off for years and walking off set and being a total drama queen diva. Because of this, the press became obsessed with the female judges not getting along, no matter who they were. And the second reason is because people created a 'style war' where Dannii & Cheryl's outfits were compared because they were young and pretty and actually wore fashionable stuff rather than the same old like Sharon did.

My problem (or problems) with X Factor 2014 are that Cowell and Cole are back on the show, officially taking it backwards and that Cowell has had a secondary "brain fart" resulting in Mel B being brought in to join them.

I have not watched a single second of this show but my reading tells me that Cowell is effectively now turning this into a game show meaning that the idea of hunting down this countrys' talent is now officially out of the window.

Is it me or is this season far more cluttered than usual? Admittedly I normally watch on fast forward these days, generally only watching the performances, but I just get the impression there's far more artists wheeled on - many only for parts of songs. Which is irritating as if the artists are good I want to hear them, if they're mmmm might be interesting, ditto, and even if they're not good or even bad there's some pleasure in watching the car crash.

So that's my 'My problem with ...'. It's getting very messy and unfocussed, almost as if they don't care at all any more.

I would rather see Alesha Dixon the the panel than Cowell.

I'm way more interested in seeing more of Mel. I can't deal with Cheryls eye rolling and attitude with Simon. She's very beautiful to look at but I dont like the attitude especially as she pre-records and has autotune when singing.

And I'd rather see more acts than huge segments just on one act. And I'm I bored of the show. I'd rather see Pop Idol back.

Great post, and lots of it I agree with. I've gradually lost interest over the years as I can see blatant manipulation and the fact its more about the judges than the acts. I havent even bothered watching so far this year.

BIB - I stopped reading after that bit. You're Dannii crazy

That is the fundamental reason the show changed, that's why there are so many threads on here devoted to either hero worshipping or slagging off of whoever is on the X Factor panel.

And it's always the female judges who get the emphasis not the men, you hardly see threads created to slag off Louis, Simon or Barlow, even though there is plenty to criticise them on - and that is entirely Cowell's fault, it's headlines for him, that's all he cares about.

You two need to get a room!

They did. It was a catastrophe. That's why they're so bitter with each other.

Only joking!!!

How embarrassing. I'm not "Dannii crazy" at all. She was my favourite judge. As was Nicole during her spell. You started to talk about how the emphasis was on the female judges when Dannii joined, and I pointed out how it was hardly her creating the headlines when it was Sharon walking off set, slagging her off and quitting.

Seriously, if you can't debate a point proper, don't bother replying

Disagree. The reason headlines were created about female judges not getting on is because Sharon started to act like an utter mess when a younger, prettier female judge joined the show.

You can use how Dannii and Simon had a relationship/were sleeping together as the reason Sharon got so upset, but Sharon herself even admitted on her US show The Talk when the stories came out in 2012 that their relationship didn't bother her.

The truth is the second Dannii came on the show, it was someone to take the limelight off Sharon and she didn't like it. The fact that Dannii was criticised for not having a successful enough career that series to warrant a place on the panel, yet ended up winning with the final two acts her boys just rubbed salt in the wound for Mrs O and that's why she left.

Cowell stirred the pot and probably loved every minute of it, but it's not entirely his fault when Sharon was acting the bitter old witch in 2007 (and many years after it I might add)

Yes you are

I'm very bored

Goodnight

PS - You need to accept that not all of us love Dannii as much as you do. Sharon seriously disliked her, and I completely understand why

Is that all you can come back with? Wow.
You can't debate the point because you know I'm right. Liking someone doesn't mean you're "mad on them" - I just much prefer Dannii to Sharon. I think most of Digital Spy and the public do too. I mean, it's like me saying you're "mad on Sharon", it's just embarrassing. Seriously, come back to me when you learn to be debate a point.

Credibility doesn't work for this show. Persoanlly, I think the best two judges ever were Kelly Rowland and Nicole. Kelly knew what she walking talking about though and she knew her stuff...I think she realised how manipulated and fake the show was a bit taken aback. I don't think Kelly would have come back. Nicole knew what she was talking about too and really, Simon should have made sure she was back this year. Danni was very good too. I can't for the life of me understand this big obsession with having Cheryl on the Panel. She did very well with Alexandra, but apart from that I don't think she's been very good as a judge. I think Joe would always have done well in the show regardless as it wasn't exactly a year full of talent during that series.

BIB - Couldn't be further from the truth D.

LOL at you lecturing me on how to debate a point

They've already scrapped live auditions?

I know LOL at me. It's true though, look at the points I made yet your reply was "I'm bored". Talk about admitting defeat

Oh and by the way, when you highlight a quote in bold, people usually know that's what you're talking about, kind of get tired of seeing BIB from you

BIB (See what I did?) - I'll make sure I'll do it all the more then, just to annoy you sweetie

Oh, there's the ignore button if I rattle your little cage that much - D for Dannii

You don't "rattle my cage" - you're actually funny. It's always funny seeing someone unable to reply or back their own comment up and having to resort to childish behaviour. Maybe that's why you love Sharon Osbourne so much. Unless you are her?

Next thing I know, I'll be getting sh*t in a box sent to my door...

PM me your address and I'll be delighted to oblige

Seriously D for Dannii, you're making a fool of yourself now

I'm the one making a fool of myself when you're the one who resorted to being childish and petty because you couldn't debate the points I had made? Ok then....