Apple sell in 10 million iPhone 6 &amp; 6 Plus units

Sadly i didnt miss it im old enough to remember all of them. The same things apply back then and now, (its different people) but a small select few , who will argue all day and night and defend or attack.
Maybe its just me but this isnt a "normal life" having an interest and an opinion is great (more people should have this ), but spending all day and night expressing it isnt. The daft thing is they end up on the same arguement despite it been a different thread.

So do you think if people habitually dip in and out of an internet forum it somehow prevents them from having "a normal life"?

Even if someone posts a few times during the day, and even a few times of an evening, you know it doesn't actually mean they have literally sat at a computer doing literally nothing else in all that time?

slattery69 · 22-10-2014, 12:51

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So do you think if people habitually dip in and out of an internet forum it somehow prevents them from having "a normal life"?

Even if someone posts a few times during the day, and even a few times of an evening, you know it doesn't actually mean they have literally sat at a computer doing literally nothing else in all that time?

No i dont think it prevents them from having a nomal life at all (even though the goalpoasts have been moved ) We and the OP where talking about people spending all day and all night arguing over the same points over and over.Not people who drop in on occasions

Not saying its you as i dont spend enough time here to know, but if you look through the busiest threads on here its the same names after the first couple of pages

slattery69 · 22-10-2014, 12:57

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Yes - because Stiggles was basically saying that anyone who posts here frequently can't have a normal life. Clearly if someone is making conclusions about how normal someones life is based on their posting history, what they consider to be "a normal life" is entirely relevant.

I'm not sure what you are agreeing with?

From where I'm standing there are a few posters who pretty much do nothing but post over the top, ill informed inaccurate nonsense. So yes - I disagree with the overwhelming majority of it. I don't see how that has any bearing on the normality or otherwise of my life though.

Again thats not what you said you asked to define whats a normal life. Now youve changed it to another question.
If you think that the time you send on here is fine and fits in with your lifestyle then thats fine.
I just responded to your original question of define normal, which youve now changed any way

calico_pie · 22-10-2014, 13:00

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No i dont think it prevents them from having a nomal life at all. However we and the OP where talking about people spending all day and all night arguing over the same points over and over.
Not saying its you as i dont spend enough time here to know, but if you look through the busiest threads on here its the same names after the first couple of pages

Not sure who you mean by the OP, but Stiggles was certainly suggesting that it did prevent people from having a normal life, which is what I took issue with.

I do post frequently, but that's not the same as actually spending all day and all night doing nothing but that. I'd put it down to habit and bemusement that people say a lot of the things they do rather than feeling any need to defend Apple.

calico_pie · 22-10-2014, 13:03

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Again thats not what you said you asked to define whats a normal life. Now youve changed it to another question.
If you think that the time you send on here is fine and fits in with your lifestyle then thats fine.
I just responded to your original question of define normal, which youve now changed any way

I really haven't changed anything. Stiggles made his comment about how people posting frequently couldn't have a normal life.

So I asked what a normal life entails, and how he could possibly tell if someone had a normal life based on their posting history on a forum.

What is it that you think I've changed it to?

slattery69 · 22-10-2014, 13:06

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I really haven't changed anything. Stiggles made his comment about how people posting frequently couldn't have a normal life.

So I asked what a normal life entails, and how he could possibly tell if someone had a normal life based on their posting history on a forum.

What is it that you think I've changed it to?

i give up you love to twist things , you asked the question then started to add bits on when you didnt like the answer.
like i said if you think you have a good split between life and online life then thats all that matters.

calico_pie · 22-10-2014, 13:26

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i give up you love to twist things , you asked the question then started to add bits on when you didnt like the answer.
like i said if you think you have a good split between life and online life then thats all that matters.

I'm not twisting anything - I originally asked this:

Could you say what criteria constitute "having a life", and also how you are able to tell whether or not anyone posting here meets those criteria?

I'm genuinely not sure what it is you think I have twisted or changed, or why you now seem unable or unwilling to say what it is you think I changed.

Quackers · 22-10-2014, 13:36

A normal life now involves active internet usage. Which posting on a forum would class as.

enapace · 22-10-2014, 17:29

I'm un decided in regards to this it's a nice phone don't get me wrong and it has guaranteed VoLTE support but I was holding out for a Cat 6 device so not sure if wait for the 2015 Flagships or not.

tdenson · 22-10-2014, 19:38

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i think if you asked a 1000 people was it normal to post in defence or attack of multi naional corparations on an internet forum, on a regular basis ie everyday . Youd probably struggle to find one person who said it was.

The reason CP and to some degree myself post fairly regularly "in defence of a multi-national corporation" is simply because we such outrageous bias against Apple from a number of posters and are simply attempting to redress the balance, and (IMO) put a more objective and rational viewpoint. I use both IOS and Android and I have plenty of criticisms of Apple and its ecosystem but I am also prepared to give credit where it's due.

alanwarwic · 22-10-2014, 20:03

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The reason CP and to some degree myself post fairly regularly "in defence of a multi-national corporation" is simply because we such outrageous bias against Apple from a number of posters and are simply attempting to redress the balance, and (IMO) put a more objective and rational viewpoint..

Really ?

Just me maybe, but all I have ever noticed from yourself is a 'No that is not right' without any reasoned reply. Also, if consumers are not also pulling some strings you get taken advantage of.

Windows 8 is a perfect example of wizened users. The big difference there is that users have never been cowed. No one I know of happens to be on a totem pole there.

alanwarwic · 22-10-2014, 20:09

And talking of redressing the balance, November sees the end the the Guardian Apple advertising month. They seem to go into overdrive every October, tailing off on the sell near November.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology

There you go, that redresses the balance. The Chromebook one is a 'Guardian balance' on the fact that Chromebook sales were only just reported to be up 79% on 2013.
But at least they had a real argument of a reply. In my eyes it beats a 'no' any day.

kidspud · 22-10-2014, 20:30

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

The reason CP and to some degree myself post fairly regularly "in defence of a multi-national corporation" is simply because we such outrageous bias against Apple from a number of posters and are simply attempting to redress the balance, and (IMO) put a more objective and rational viewpoint. I use both IOS and Android and I have plenty of criticisms of Apple and its ecosystem but I am also prepared to give credit where it's due.

It isn't possible to redress the balance when certain posters just make up conspiracy theory's. When they are found out (usually very quickly) they just move onto the next one

jabbamk1 · 22-10-2014, 20:47

It's estimated that ~310m smartphones were shipped in Q3 2014.

In Q3 2013 Apple shipped a total of 33.8m smartphones and this year Apple shipped a total of 39.3m. That's a ~16% increase YOY.

Apple's market share was 13.1% in Q3 2013. As of Q3 2014 Apple's market share now stands at 12.7%. That's higher than the 12% of last quarter.

In Q3 2013 Samsung shipped a total of 81.2m smartphones. Based on preliminary data we can estimate that Samsung shipped approximately ~93m devices worldwide which would be an estimated ~15% increase YOY.

Samsung have shipped a total of ~30 million Galaxy S5's since launch earlier this year.

Xiaomi was the fastest growing smartphone manufacturer again. 5.5m units were shipped in Q3 2013 and this year ~19 million units were shipped Q3 2014. That's an increase of ~245%.

LG also saw considerable growth this year. Last year they shipped a total of 12.3m and this year they shipped approximately ~19.8m units worldwide. That's an increase of ~60%.

Samsung, Apple and Lenovo/Motorola are the 3 biggest manufactures in terms of smartphone shipments this quarter.

alanwarwic · 22-10-2014, 21:01

And there is also that stupid other one. When trying to reason out what happened, again rather than giving another reasoned opinion (like Arthur did at the Guardian), we get a its a daft conspiracy theory' line.

http://macdailynews.com/2014/10/17/g...ded-by-nasdaq/
" He basically said that it seems as if Apple is guilty of continuing to change the specs on the sapphire glass it wanted from GT, making it difficult for the company to comply with Apple’s many demands,” Jones reports. “GT wants to shut down its sapphire manufacturing facility because of the cash burn at the facility, which it said was because of Apple’s demands.”"

Weird how near everyone is reporting a similar 'conspiracy theory'.

Its history. GT got an outcome and Apple kept their secrets intact.

kidspud · 22-10-2014, 21:17

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And there is also that stupid other one. When trying to reason out what happened, again rather than giving another reasoned opinion (like Arthur did at the Guardian), we get a its a daft conspiracy theory' line.

http://macdailynews.com/2014/10/17/g...ded-by-nasdaq/
" He basically said that it seems as if Apple is guilty of continuing to change the specs on the sapphire glass it wanted from GT, making it difficult for the company to comply with Apple’s many demands,” Jones reports. “GT wants to shut down its sapphire manufacturing facility because of the cash burn at the facility, which it said was because of Apple’s demands.”"

Weird how near everyone is reporting a similar 'conspiracy theory'.

Its history. GT got an outcome and Apple kept their secrets intact.

You seem to forget, I do not think there is any conspiracy in the GT affair. GT took a gamble (with the loan of someone else's money) and it didn't work. That is just business.

I'm sure the employees of GT have many questions on why their management let them down.

Although From the link you provided (and the subsequent links within it), it isn't clear how the author reached his conclusions. I don't nomally trust comments like "he basically said", why not just quote the judge rather than try and create an interpretation.

calico_pie · 22-10-2014, 21:23

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Really ?

Just me maybe, but all I have ever noticed from yourself is a 'No that is not right' without any reasoned reply. Also, if consumers are not also pulling some strings you get taken advantage of.

Maybe that's because a lot of what you post verges on conspiracy theory.

Not sure what you mean by "taken advantage of". Is there a theory afoot?

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Windows 8 is a perfect example of wizened users. The big difference there is that users have never been cowed. No one I know of happens to be on a totem pole there.

You do increasingly seem to talk on riddles.

alanwarwic · 22-10-2014, 21:40

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Maybe that's because a lot of what you post verges on conspiracy theory...You do increasingly seem to talk on riddles.

Well I don't use easy consumption marketing terms like 'Retina'.
As to riddles, well I have to be sometimes tactful with my observations. With no superlatives from me, it is hard not to be also cowed by accusational tags.

And well, we now how great Apple and its hardware is no matter what. Anything otherwise is a conspiracy theory or hate.

calico_pie · 22-10-2014, 22:53

And that would be a strawman.

tdenson · 23-10-2014, 12:44

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Really ?

Just me maybe, but all I have ever noticed from yourself is a 'No that is not right' without any reasoned reply. Also, if consumers are not also pulling some strings you get taken advantage of.

Windows 8 is a perfect example of wizened users. The big difference there is that users have never been cowed. No one I know of happens to be on a totem pole there.

Sorry I don't even understand those words, well I understand all the words but not the order into which you've put them to make sentences.
All I know is that 90% of your posts, and there are a lot, are aimed as a sideswipe at Apple. In all my posts I defy you to find more than a handful that are negative about Google/Android. Yes, I have some criticisms, but then I equally have criticisms of Apple. You certainly won't find 9 out of 10 of my posts bashing on about the evil Google or Samsung.

Stig · 23-10-2014, 13:55

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Sorry I don't even understand those words, well I understand all the words but not the order into which you've put them to make sentences.
All I know is that 90% of your posts, and there are a lot, are aimed as a sideswipe at Apple. In all my posts I defy you to find more than a handful that are negative about Google/Android. Yes, I have some criticisms, but then I equally have criticisms of Apple. You certainly won't find 9 out of 10 of my posts bashing on about the evil Google or Samsung.

Just put these idiots on your ignore list and have a less stressful life. It's all off-topic nonsense. My recent favourite was the debate as to what 'get a life' means; how ironic.

tdenson · 23-10-2014, 16:29

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Just put these idiots on your ignore list and have a less stressful life. It's all off-topic nonsense. My recent favourite was the debate as to what 'get a life' means; how ironic.

Don't worry about me, I really find it quite amusing and a nice little interlude from things I'm doing in my real "life".

calico_pie · 23-10-2014, 21:19

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Just put these idiots on your ignore list and have a less stressful life. It's all off-topic nonsense. My recent favourite was the debate as to what 'get a life' means; how ironic.

It wasn't quite that - it was about how ridiculous and presumptuous for someone to think that posting here meant someone couldn't have a normal life.

If someone posts nonsense like that, I'll call them on it every time.

alanwarwic · 23-10-2014, 21:30

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