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Why is Mick Carter the King of the square now...
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Broken_Arrow
23-09-2014
Originally Posted by vaslav37:
“Cora should have been a Queen of the Vic.”

I like Cora but she's a raging alkie. It wouldn't work.
srhgts
23-09-2014
Originally Posted by Lizzie Brookes:
“Mick was being a friend. He probably was a bit shocked when the house exploded and I'm sure he was anxious when he thought Johnny and Kat were in danger but didn't he burn his own pub down at one point? In that case, it would be hypocritical to condemn Alfie. Also, Mick has compassion for Alfie and knows that he is not a bad person - he made a reckless, stupid and dangerous decision because he thought he was in a desperate situation - of course all he did was advise Alfie. As he rightly said, Alfie must make his own decisions. All Mick can do is offer advice and be there for him. I'd love to have a friend like Mick. He seems almost as non judgemental as me.”

This. Mick's a great character.
dd68
23-09-2014
I don't think he is, he has poor leadership qualities
Lizzie Brookes
23-09-2014
Originally Posted by srhgts:
“This. Mick's a great character.”

Thanks.

Is there an Appreciation Thread for Mick?
vaslav37
23-09-2014
Originally Posted by Lizzie Brookes:
“Thanks.

Is there an Appreciation Thread for Mick?”

I love Mick but he is dominating the show.
trevor tiger
23-09-2014
Originally Posted by Noush:
“Can't stand the way he's always sticking his nose into other people's business! He has no morals and has no idea of right from wrong....I mean he knew Alfie was burning the place down yet he feels no way at all that Kat and his own son nearly died! All he does is advise Alfie etc. The way he practically chased Tosh down the square was pathetic! His actions are only more likely to raise suspicion! He should shut up and mind his own goddam business!”

Great post and I very much agree particularly after tonight's episode where he is on the one hand showing disgust for Ben who accidentally killed Hev and yet stands by Alfie who deliberately set fire to his own House nearly killing his wife in the process. Would Mick have still stood by Alfie if he had actually killed someone Is that how he judges things

He makes me sick. He is a complete hypocrite as well as a wet blanket.
Lizzie Brookes
23-09-2014
Well, Shirley is his sister so I can understand Mick being angry on her behalf. Yes, Ben committed manslaughter and served his time for it but there were always going to be problems with him returning to the square. These things take time. As for Alfie, yes what he did was wrong but Mick saw that he was in a desperate situation - he couldn't really do more than advise Alfie against it as Alfie has to make his own decisions in life. Alfie genuinely believed the house was empty - when he realised Kat was inside he risked his own life to save her. Alfie never meant to harm anyone, though yes he should have thought about the consequences/reprecussions instead of doing something so reckless and stupid. Mo's hair products were to blame for the actual explosion and I don't think Alfie knew they were there. I can forgive Alfie because he's kind at heart but I'd feel nervous around Ben, especially as he killed Heather in a moment of anger.
Dr K Noisewater
23-09-2014
I like Mick but he is starting to annoy me the way he's involved in everything. I think they're just trying to get their money's worth out of him because they know Danny Dyer won't stick around for long.
CherryRose
23-09-2014
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“”

You like king Philith?
Mr Patrick
23-09-2014
I am starting to hate Mick so he agrees with alfie to burn the house down with kat in it and he looks down at Ben for killing someone accidentally. Pathetic Where was he when heather died? No where wasn't even in the show so he had no right to look down at Ben Even if Shirley was his sister.
trevor tiger
23-09-2014
Originally Posted by Lizzie Brookes:
“Well, Shirley is his sister so I can understand Mick being angry on her behalf. Yes, Ben committed manslaughter and served his time for it but there were always going to be problems with him returning to the square. These things take time. As for Alfie, yes what he did was wrong but Mick saw that he was in a desperate situation - he couldn't really do more than advise Alfie against it as Alfie has to make his own decisions in life. Alfie genuinely believed the house was empty - when he realised Kat was inside he risked his own life to save her. Alfie never meant to harm anyone, though yes he should have thought about the consequences/reprecussions instead of doing something so reckless and stupid. Mo's hair products were to blame for the actual explosion and I don't think Alfie knew they were there. I can forgive Alfie because he's kind at heart but I'd feel nervous around Ben, especially as he killed Heather in a moment of anger.”

Ben was angry and pushed Heather. The push could never have killed anyone but she hit her head when she fell and that is what killed Heather. Alfie deliberately started a house fire in a busy residential street. You're right though, the only reason Mick is being harsh to Ben is because of Shirley but she is only acting out of guilt towards Heather because she made her life a misery when she was alive. She bullied and abused Heather and when she had information about Heather's death and Phil's involvement did she go to the police? No she has just used it to black mail Phil

Shirley and Mick deserve each other
CherryRose
23-09-2014
Originally Posted by vaslav37:
“I love Mick but he is dominating the show.”

I am happy with him domineering nature

He can dominate me anytime
sorcha_healy27
23-09-2014
Originally Posted by CherryRose:
“I am happy with him domineering nature

He can dominate me anytime ”

I agree. wouldn't say no to changing his barrel lol
Lizzie Brookes
24-09-2014
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Ben was angry and pushed Heather. The push could never have killed anyone but she hit her head when she fell and that is what killed Heather. Alfie deliberately started a house fire in a busy residential street. You're right though, the only reason Mick is being harsh to Ben is because of Shirley but she is only acting out of guilt towards Heather because she made her life a misery when she was alive. She bullied and abused Heather and when she had information about Heather's death and Phil's involvement did she go to the police? No she has just used it to black mail Phil

Shirley and Mick deserve each other ”

I remember Ben hitting her with a picture frame?

I do agree though that she banged her head and that is what actually caused her death. That idiot Ben should have handed himself in straight away instead of making Phil and Jay cover for him and keeping the murder weapon.

While I agree with what you say about Shirley, I do like Mick.
RetroMusicFan
24-09-2014
Because he is head of the family that are DTC's 'baby' so he and his family are shoehorned into most eps and Mick seems to be involved in everyone's business.

I love his friendship with Alfie!
Lizzie Brookes
24-09-2014
Originally Posted by RetroMusicFan:
“Because he is head of the family that are DTC's 'baby' so he and his family are shoehorned into most eps and Mick seems to be involved in everyone's business.

I love his friendship with Alfie
!”

Me too.

I realise most people are frustrated by the arson and rightly so and yes, ideally Alfie should hand himself in because he did commit a crime, but, just as with John Stape, I can't help liking Alfie and feeling sorry for him. The insurance scam was a stupid and dangerous idea and he had other options, but he genuinely thought the house was empty, didn't realise Mo's hairspray was there (and it was the hairspray that caused the explosion) and dashed back to get Kat out at risk to his own life. Luckily for him nobody died and he never intended to harm anyone so he won't be charged with attempted murder/murder or manslaughter, at the most only with fraud and arson I hope (unless of course he dies).
dan2008
24-09-2014
Originally Posted by CherryRose:
“You like king Philith?”

of course
trevor tiger
24-09-2014
Originally Posted by Lizzie Brookes:
“I remember Ben hitting her with a picture frame?

I do agree though that she banged her head and that is what actually caused her death. That idiot Ben should have handed himself in straight away instead of making Phil and Jay cover for him and keeping the murder weapon.

While I agree with what you say about Shirley, I do like Mick.”

Ooops However, you said he did it in anger and you can understand why people would be worried around him but Shirley attacked Ben in the pub toilet in anger and Dean thumped Ben in anger. Anger and violence isn't unusual in life and definitely not on EE but Heather being killed was an accident. It's funny but I was thinking when Ben flung Shirley back in the pub that she could have hit her head and been killed

I just feel Ben's an easy target and Shirley should look to herself more. She treated Heather awfully and even when she died Shirley had information on Phil which she used to extort money rather than tell the police Shirley is horrible and Mick is a wet blanket sadly
Lizzie Brookes
25-09-2014
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Ooops However, you said he did it in anger and you can understand why people would be worried around him but Shirley attacked Ben in the pub toilet in anger and Dean thumped Ben in anger. Anger and violence isn't unusual in life and definitely not on EE but Heather being killed was an accident. It's funny but I was thinking when Ben flung Shirley back in the pub that she could have hit her head and been killed

I just feel Ben's an easy target and Shirley should look to herself more. She treated Heather awfully and even when she died Shirley had information on Phil which she used to extort money rather than tell the police Shirley is horrible and Mick is a wet blanket sadly ”

I agree about Shirley and yes, maybe Heather was manslaughter as Ben didn't mean for her to die but many people were fond of Heather so I can understand them being uncomfortable around Ben. Also Ben didn't show much guilt did he? I try very hard not to judge but I guess if someone killed someone else in a moment of anger then most would be nervous in case the person got angry with them and did it again - if Ben felt guilty and attended anger management, I'd probably feel a bit better though it's true that he handed himself in and served his time.

I like Mick though so I must disagree about him.
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