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Old 24-09-2014, 12:10
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I found the scene last night where Sharon went to throw her drink over Shirley and hit Linda frustrating.

Shirley has hated Sharon ever since she arrived JUST BECAUSE Sharon has history with Phil- she hated her even before she'd spoken to her. Shirley is creepily obsessed with Phil- the fact he treats her like dirt yet she follows him everywhere and even stands outside the Albert watching Sharon and Linda waiting to just step in and throw a few insults at her is pathetic and petty.

Why is it that once again Shirley gets away with having the drink thrown over her and walks off with her smug grin.

The producers are making her unlikeable through her constant meddling and obsessing over Phil and Sharon. Anyone else feel the same?

I'm not saying Sharon is perfect, but at the moment Shirley is the one acting like a child and initiating all of the petty insults with Sharon.
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Old 24-09-2014, 12:24
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Because she is dtcs favourite characters. She got more favours done last night. I can't believe she became the centre of attention

Surely,some producer fed up with her constant arguing is just going to get fed up

...and get rid
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Old 24-09-2014, 12:32
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I do find it odd how Shirley always manages the upper hand in someway in regards to Sharon.

But they allowed Shirley to be soaked at the fire station so that'll do me.
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Old 24-09-2014, 12:36
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They're as bad as each other. Sometimes Shirley starts it and sometimes Sharon does. Besides Sharon will win by becoming the new Mrs Mitchell....Peggy mark II, and Shirley will probably end up with a bullet.
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Old 24-09-2014, 12:38
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Shirley is in a different league as a character to Sharon due to the acting abilities. Sharon has and is not going anywhere other than endless romance stories. Shirley is damaged. You aren't supposed to like her but she is a classic soap character in the making. DTC knows this. Pat was a very unlikeable charcter when she first came into EE.

I expect when he took over each character was assessed against two criteria. Medium term fit of character into show / acting ability. It is the latter reason why Lucy went.
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Old 24-09-2014, 12:39
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I think last night was equally matched between Sharon and Shirley, both giving as good as they got and getting some killer lines! It was quite a funny scene and I enjoyed it. Sometimes Sharon starts it and sometimes Shirley does, they are both as bad as each other.
Sharon was quite smug to Shirley last night about Phil. Shirley retaliated. And vice versa - works both ways.

Shirley doesn't have to be likable 100% of the time, she is an iconic character in the making and is fascinating to watch. I look forward to finding out more about her history. Plus Linda Henry is such a skillful actress and has that ability to allow me to sympathize with Shirley, even when she is revealing her worst.

Also Sharon is also one of DTC's fave characters. And Linda.
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Old 24-09-2014, 12:40
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Tosh needs to hose her down again. My favourite episode this year.
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Old 24-09-2014, 12:43
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Shirley an iconic character in the making? Yeah right. Mind you she is Iconically annoying.
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Old 24-09-2014, 12:48
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Yeah I agree with what you're all saying. However the annoying thing still is how she seems to follow them around the square waiting to jump out with bitchy lines. Like last night watching Sharon at the Albert and then taking the effort to go all the way upstairs onto the balcony just to throw a few insults. Very bitter, petty and immature. The rest of the time I love her!
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Old 24-09-2014, 12:56
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Aside from the obvious reason that the producer and writers are obsessed with her, I think Shirley represents a particular section of society who act like entitled tw*ts, cause nothing but misery for others and then shirk responsibility by wallowing in self pity. From what I've seen on Twitter and Facebook it seems Shirley appeals to this demographic and I'm not surprised. The writers are appealing to what they (possibly correctly) assume is their target audience by having disgusting bullies like Shirley and Phil come out on top all the time.

I do agree the writers favour Shirley over Sharon and always let Shirley be the one to come out on top in their arguments. I think DTC has a fondness for Sharon as a fan but I think his love for Shirley and Linda Henry is greater than any nostalgic respect he has for Sharon or any other character. Once again, Sharon's storyline becomes Shirley's storyline because she is the star of the show now.
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Old 24-09-2014, 13:02
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Yeah I agree with what you're all saying. However the annoying thing still is how she seems to follow them around the square waiting to jump out with bitchy lines. Like last night watching Sharon at the Albert and then taking the effort to go all the way upstairs onto the balcony just to throw a few insults. Very bitter, petty and immature. The rest of the time I love her!
It was very petty. But I was also surprised to hear Sharon, the manager of the Albert, screeching out to someone in the street like that....not very professional.
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Old 24-09-2014, 13:06
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she should've been axed when heather was killed. always whinging about something and hangs around the square stalking phil.
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Old 24-09-2014, 13:09
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Shirley is repulsive. A sad pathetic alcoholic who is vile to everyone and who does'nt have a redeeming bone in her body. How she has gone from almost disappearing to suddenly having a huge screentime with 700 relatives living with her leads me to believe she must have "dirt" on the producers.

She is seriously making me want to stop watching. Horrible horrible creature.
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Old 24-09-2014, 13:09
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Shirley is just a twisted bitter character, we suppose to root for her as some underdog because she 'damaged' but she just has a horrible attitude towards anyone she feel insecure with, her obsession over Phil, her lack of sympathy or responsibility and self entitled attitude towards what she thinks is hers, without ever earning or deserving it brings her down.

People call her the new Pat she isn't , Pat was hard nose and a tart with a hart but she was able to change and develop and grew empathy and a character you could care about, Shirley been on 7 years or more and she just got worse and barely changed from her inception, even a family hasn't done anything for her, she gone back to being Phil's puppet.
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Old 24-09-2014, 13:16
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Sometimes i like Shirley when she is not bitter but when she is bitter i don't like her, She sounds like a jealous child who doesn't like any one else near there special person in this case its Sharon and phil.
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Old 24-09-2014, 13:18
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It was very petty. But I was also surprised to hear Sharon, the manager of the Albert, screeching out to someone in the street like that....not very professional.
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Old 24-09-2014, 13:22
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But then, Vald you take every opportunity to snipe at Sharon.
Just pointing out that she's not perfect. The hero worship of this character is tedious.
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Old 24-09-2014, 13:30
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What exactly had Shirley got away with? She's got nothing. She hadn't even got her man Sharon has. I can see why she is so bitter and resents Sharon though. Shirley loved Phil and stuck by him through all his problems with Ben, the stalker, his imprisonment, the crack addiction etc etc and she's walked away with nothing. Sharon has swanned back into his life and he's bought her a bar and they're getting married even though it's obvious Sharon's heart isn't in it.

If your referring to the scene on the balcony in particular Sharon threw the drink and hit Linda Shirley didn't do anything. I'm not sure what she got away with there?
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Old 24-09-2014, 13:37
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I meant that the writers always orchestrate it so that Shirley comes out on top of the situation, despite being the one that follows Sharon around just to bitch and snipe at her, simply because she's jealous. She needs to stop being a doormat and get over Phil; I don't see the constant attraction with him.
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Old 24-09-2014, 13:41
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What exactly had Shirley got away with? She's got nothing. She hadn't even got her man Sharon has. I can see why she is so bitter and resents Sharon though. Shirley loved Phil and stuck by him through all his problems with Ben, the stalker, his imprisonment, the crack addiction etc etc and she's walked away with nothing. Sharon has swanned back into his life and he's bought her a bar and they're getting married even though it's obvious Sharon's heart isn't in it.

If your referring to the scene on the balcony in particular Sharon threw the drink and hit Linda Shirley didn't do anything. I'm not sure what she got away with there?
Shirley gets away with being a bully, starting on people and coming out smelling of roses out of the argument, look at the way she talks to Linda sometimes, Mick doesn't say nothing.

Shirley had this he gave her the cafe which she couldn't be bothered with and was going to marry her twice, so she had no different to what Sharon has now.

There is no hero worship of Sharon, she not perfect, can be a bitch and a mug but at least fans can see that of her, any mention of Shirley flaws it's mostly written off.
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Old 24-09-2014, 13:41
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I meant that the writers always orchestrate it so that Shirley comes out on top of the situation, despite being the one that follows Sharon around just to bitch and snipe at her, simply because she's jealous. She needs to stop being a doormat and get over Phil; I don't see the constant attraction with him.
Same could apply to Sharon. At least in Shirley's case she really does love him, Sharon's fond of Phil but she isn't in love with him.
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Old 24-09-2014, 13:45
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Sharon doesn't obsess over him and follow him around the square. Waiting outside his house just to talk to him about SHARON constantly. Least she was prepared to get revenge until she had a change of heart.
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Old 24-09-2014, 14:07
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Just pointing out that she's not perfect. The hero worship of this character is tedious.
Thank you! This is exactly it. Probably one of the reasons that I don't like Sharon much. This hero worship of her is silly, she has flaws as well.

Sharon has also been a doormat when it comes to Phil.
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Old 24-09-2014, 14:17
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They're both heavily flawed, it's just that the writers have now made Sharon weak so Shirley can take centre stage. That's the annoying thing. And they've made Shirley needy and obsessive over Phil just to keep their 'love story' going.
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Old 24-09-2014, 14:18
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Thank you! This is exactly it. Probably one of the reasons that I don't like Sharon much. This hero worship of her is silly, she has flaws as well.

Sharon has also been a doormat when it comes to Phil.
haha as I already said above when she a bitch and a mug people will say so, I've seen constant glossing over of Shirley's 'flaws' as excuse for her behaviour aswell so works both ways.
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