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EE: Am I the only one who loved the Baby swap storyline?
It was gripping throughout and it was a good way of showing how desperate Ronnie was to have a child after losing Danielle. Things like this have happened in real life and it's great that TPTB brushed up on that.
And can I just say that because I enjoyed the storyline doesn't make me "sick" or a "horrible human being", I simply loved the way it went and I don't believe it deserved so many complaints. It's a fictional television show, trying to blend into reality. |
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A change in the show was very noticeable when Peggy left, and Kat and Alfie took over the vic, however the show still remained exciting and very watchable for quite some time, and I think this storyline was one of the things that helped! I enjoyed it, but I felt like it was rushed tbf! Other than the swap itself, the funeral and the reveal, not many key events happened, and it felt like there was a big 3 month gap... But yes, it was a good storyline. Although it was quite silly, it was enjoyable! The show after that storyline though, just got worst and worst! The start of 2011 was quite good, and I think this was one of the reasons, but it was still bad compared to the start of 2010! After the baby swap storyline, the show started to deteriorate, it only started picking itself back up when DTC came in, and the show is getting much better now, with interesting storylines, which seem to be interesting most fans, and people on social media!
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Nope. I thought it was an emotionally breathtaking piece of drama.
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It was great IMO. It was just the backlash in criticism which gave it a bad reputation. I loved it when Kat & Alfie got their baby back though.
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Enjoyed it throughout! Was a good story!
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I would have if Kirkwood hadn't bottled it.
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Enjoyed it throughout! Was a good story!
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It was great IMO. It was just the backlash in criticism which gave it a bad reputation. I loved it when Kat & Alfie got their baby back though.
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Nope. I thought it was an emotionally breathtaking piece of drama.
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It was gripping throughout and it was a good way of showing how desperate Ronnie was to have a child after losing Danielle. Things like this have happened in real life and it's great that TPTB brushed up on that.
And can I just say that because I enjoyed the storyline doesn't make me "sick" or a "horrible human being", I simply loved the way it went and I don't believe it deserved so many complaints. It's a fictional television show, trying to blend into reality. |
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I really enjoyed the drama of it all, really gripping and some fantastic acting. I really wish they had continued it to the climax they had in store instead of ending it early, I think it would have been amazing.
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No i enjoyed it too. I like Risky EastEnders and this was on a whole new level. Fantastic performances too.
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I really enjoyed the drama of it all, really gripping and some fantastic acting. I really wish they had continued it to the climax they had in store instead of ending it early, I think it would have been amazing.
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It was gripping throughout and it was a good way of showing how desperate Ronnie was to have a child after losing Danielle. Things like this have happened in real life and it's great that TPTB brushed up on that.
And can I just say that because I enjoyed the storyline doesn't make me "sick" or a "horrible human being", I simply loved the way it went and I don't believe it deserved so many complaints. It's a fictional television show, trying to blend into reality. From what I gather the main problem was how Ronnie was being depicted as a grieving, mentally ill woman with poss postnatal depression. Yet we didn't get a storm of protest over "mad May" & that depiction of mental illness just a few years earlier. I do wonder, if Dean is being depicted as having mental health or self esteem issues whether a similar situation might arise after the upcoming rape storyline is aired. Sometimes people with mental health issues do bad things, it's the truth. Other times they don't. To be fair I think soaps are able to depict this both ways. |
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I enjoyed it. It was storyline i never would of dreamed of any soap doing. A story i never thought would exist but i am glad it never ran until until xmas as planned.
It also allowed me to appreciate Jesse Wallace much more an actress who gave some heartbreaking performances throughout it all. Especially in the aftermath. I think the backlash over it was ridiculous personally. |
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Thought it was beyond painful to watch.
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I loathe it. Baby swapping stories are the pits in soap opera along with flash men wanting to sleep woman when they owe money, I HATE those stories.
I also hated pretty much ALL the key players of the baby swap story and for me it totally finished Ronnie as a character. |
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I loathe it. Baby swapping stories are the pits in soap opera along with flash men wanting to sleep woman when they owe money, I HATE those stories.
I also hated pretty much ALL the key players of the baby swap story and for me it totally finished Ronnie as a character.
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Though it was well acted and Ronnie's history did make it clear that losing James had pushed her over the edge and not every mother who lost a baby to SIDS would kidnap a baby (the main concern) I'm afraid it did leave a bad taste in my mouth to watch. Just a SIDS storyline would have been traumatic enough, to throw in a baby swap as well was overkill and purely done to sensationalise it.
Whilst I didn't complain and wouldn't have stopped watching over ut, I did understand why so many viewers found it so upsetting and was glad they cut it short - even though it did pretty much bugger up the rest of the year as they didn't have viable storylines to replace it for kat, Alfie and Jack. |
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Though it was well acted and Ronnie's history did make it clear that losing James had pushed her over the edge and not every mother who lost a baby to SIDS would kidnap a baby (the main concern) I'm afraid it did leave a bad taste in my mouth to watch. Just a SIDS storyline would have been traumatic enough, to throw in a baby swap as well was overkill and purely done to sensationalise it.
Whilst I didn't complain and wouldn't have stopped watching over ut, I did understand why so many viewers found it so upsetting and was glad they cut it short - even though it did pretty much bugger up the rest of the year as they didn't have viable storylines to replace it for kat, Alfie and Jack. |
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I thought replacing it with the masood's and yusef was done brilliantly.
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No I hated it so much I haven't watched an episode since Jan 2011.
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I think it was a great storyline, but vastly overshadowed by the baby swap itself. The real focus of the storyline was cot death and exploring the grief and other issues surrounding cot death, the baby swap was something that allowed it to be explored with both Kat and Alfie as well as Jack and Ronnie but the media hype focusing on the actual swap undervalued the potential the cot death storyline had. Even the way its referred as the baby swap storyline rather than the cot death storyline sadly shows this.
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I didn't see it, as I don't watch 'stenders but obviously heard about it.
One thing you can maybe explain to me though, how did Kat and Alfie not notice the baby who'd died wasn't theirs? Surely you'd recognise your own child? Did they never interact with Ronnie and see their baby was alive and with her? I know babies look a bit similar, ie bald, chubby, but you'd know your own surely? |
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I didn't see it, as I don't watch 'stenders but obviously heard about it.
One thing you can maybe explain to me though, how did Kat and Alfie not notice the baby who'd died wasn't theirs? Surely you'd recognise your own child? Did they never interact with Ronnie and see their baby was alive and with her? I know babies look a bit similar, ie bald, chubby, but you'd know your own surely? Kat did claim that it wasn't her baby shen she saw the corpse but the they were told that was a normal reaction of a giving parent so nobody believed her and fairly soon she accepted that argument. |
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What was the original ending?
I found the storyline very sad instead of unbelievable. I am not saying every mother who loses a child wants to kidnap another but the overwhelming emotions of her wanting to comfort a baby made her lose her senses. They could have done so much with Ronnie & Jack in that time. |
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I don't know what the original ending was but I am sure in an interview with Shane Ritchie just before the episode aired he mentioned that the climax wouldn't happen for at least a year. I think in that time we would have seen Ronnie either struggle like we did or she would have bonded with the child and denied everything.
I found the storyline very sad instead of unbelievable. I am not saying every mother who loses a child wants to kidnap another but the overwhelming emotions of her wanting to comfort a baby made her lose her senses. They could have done so much with Ronnie & Jack in that time. |
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