EE Wifi Calling

DevonBloke · 05-04-2015, 22:30

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It's supposed to. I'll test it out tomorrow.

See my post above. Don't bother, it won't work.
It's not possible to hand off from IP based WiFi calling to Circuit switched 2G or 3G.
Once VoLTE is up and running you will be able to handoff both to and from WiFi calling.

DevonBloke · 05-04-2015, 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by d123

What about Lucan?

Oh yeah... damn....

Sorry, long day, Kids, Easter egg hunt, etc. etc.....

DevonBloke · 05-04-2015, 22:35

Anyway, Lucan's posts are always so short and cryptic no one knows what the hell is going on half the time! Hahahahaha

d123 · 05-04-2015, 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevonBloke

Anyway, Lucan's posts are always so short and cryptic no one knows what the hell is going on half the time! Hahahahaha

Ooh, there is an reply that I just won't make there...

DevonBloke · 05-04-2015, 22:46

He knows I'm joking........
Bugger........ I hope he does.....

carnivalist · 05-04-2015, 23:01

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This evening i have gone round specially to see my sister as she has a EE branded S5 ...

Do you have to own an EE branded phone, or is it available to customers with SIM-Free phones? I'm thinking of joining but I may not get a handset contract. For one thing I don't want that horrible logo on the back of my handset - at least the Orange one was attractive. (In fact my Graphic Design Creative Director brother says the Orange branding was one of the best ever and that it is a shame they ditched it in favour of the current monstrosity).

I seem to recall something similar that IIRC never took off when I was on Orange . It was only available on a very small number of handset brands and only those with Orange firmware.

Browno01 · 05-04-2015, 23:15

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Originally Posted by simon69c

I noticed my iPhone said Cellular too so went into settings to take a look and sure enough my language was set to "English" as opposed to "English (U.K.)". I changed this and iOS did some reconfiguring and now it calls that section of settings Mobile rather than Cellular. I have certainly never specifically changed that setting myself so my guess is that it may be the default setting, at least for Apple-supplied iPhones.

Note that it is the iPhone Language setting that ought to be "English (U.K.)" - you may have seen the Region being set to United Kingdom and assumed that was what was being talked about. Mine was set to United Kingdom for the Region but English for the iPhone Language.

Bizarre. Language was definitely showing as English UK, went in and tapped English UK, it said 'Setting Language', went back into the Settings app and it now says Mobile...

Roll on the iPhone roll out...

Tony_Betteridge · 05-04-2015, 23:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by carnivalist

Do you have to own an EE branded phone, or is it available to customers with SIM-Free phones? I'm thinking of joining but I may not get a handset contract. For one thing I don't want that horrible logo on the back of my handset - at least the Orange one was attractive. (In fact my Graphic Design Creative Director brother says the Orange branding was one of the best ever and that it is a shame they ditched it in favour of the current monstrosity).

I seem to recall something similar that IIRC never took off when I was on Orange . It was only available on a very small number of handset brands and only those with Orange firmware.

See my posts above

DevonBloke · 05-04-2015, 23:23

Us poor iPhone users who were promised the Earth now have to wait.........
But hey!.... Apple Pay!!!

Browno01 · 05-04-2015, 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevonBloke

Us poor iPhone users who were promised the Earth now have to wait.........
But hey!.... Apple Pay!!!

Just like waiting for Wifi calling, hey! I'm sure we'll get Apple Pay near the Watch/8.3 launch... 🙏

alanwarwic · 05-04-2015, 23:34

If its as bad as 'Volte in its infancy' you may have to use something similar to this 'easy fix'.
http://www.imore.com/your-iphone-6-o...-att-heres-fix

Terminology is getting ever more weird. 'Easy fix' decodes to 'Turn it off'.

DevonBloke · 05-04-2015, 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

If its as bad as 'Volte in its infancy' you may have to use something similar to this 'easy fix'.
http://www.imore.com/your-iphone-6-o...-att-heres-fix

Terminology is getting ever more weird. 'Easy fix' decodes to 'Turn it off'.

This is because LTE to 3G handoff either wasn't implemented or wasn't working properly.
Probably why EE are waiting for A: Their 4G 1800/2600 to be near 98% and B: 800Mhz to be rolled out before turning on VoLTE.
I don't know if they are going to have 4G to 3G handoff (I assume so) but if they aren't (at least initially) then down here at least they are going to want to have 800 everywhere first otherwise there will be one hell of a lot of dropped calls.

jchamier · 05-04-2015, 23:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by d123

I only ever buy direct from Apple and I've never had one set to English or saying Cellular (as opposed to English UK and Mobile). Maybe you changed it to English (thinking that was the default UK setting) when going through the set up pages when you got it?

A strange occurrence, no matter how it happened though.

If you power on a new iPhone without a SIM, the first prompt will have English at the top, and then it prompts for a SIM. If you fit the network SIM first then power on, you'll find the first prompt will have English UK at the top.

jchamier · 05-04-2015, 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevonBloke

This is because LTE to 3G handoff either wasn't implemented or wasn't working properly.

In Chicago AT&T have have issues with their LTE network. My family on the east cost using Verizon have had no issues with VoLTE since enabling it at Christmas. Just works they report.

Also that iMore article refers to "4G" but as we know they mean 3G.

Gigabit · 06-04-2015, 00:03

There are issues in New York city too, with I think T-Mobile, who don't own much spectrum.

The USA is a strange country...

d123 · 06-04-2015, 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchamier

If you power on a new iPhone without a SIM, the first prompt will have English at the top, and then it prompts for a SIM. If you fit the network SIM first then power on, you'll find the first prompt will have English UK at the top.

That figures, I always put the sim in first,

jchamier · 06-04-2015, 00:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gigabit

There are issues in New York city too, with I think T-Mobile, who don't own much spectrum.

The USA is a strange country...

I think of it as a collection of countries. The radio freqs sold by "market" is old and still odd.

carnivalist · 06-04-2015, 01:47

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Originally Posted by Tony_Betteridge

See my posts above

That's a bit of a bummer. Really didn't want an EE branded phone. Am I overly concerned with that aspect. I was orange and hated the intrusive firmware. Is there any issue with receiving android and any other updates with operator firmware these days? I know it used to take Orange ages and they would even stop issuing them for an obsolete model even if said updates were still available. Not keen.on having a logo eithrr. Do EE routinely. put their logo on their handsets? The photo in the free powerbank promotion has one.

Tony_Betteridge · 06-04-2015, 07:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by carnivalist

That's a bit of a bummer. Really didn't want an EE branded phone. Am I overly concerned with that aspect. I was orange and hated the intrusive firmware. Is there any issue with receiving android and any other updates with operator firmware these days? I know it used to take Orange ages and they would even stop issuing them for an obsolete model even if said updates were still available. Not keen.on having a logo eithrr. Do EE routinely. put their logo on their handsets? The photo in the free powerbank promotion has one.

The only difference I noticed when I changed to the EVR firmware, Other than having wifi calling of course, was a couple of extra apps which I deleted. There is no EE branding coming up on my phone. Regarding future firmware if it doesn't come OTA I will go to Sammobile.

carnivalist · 06-04-2015, 08:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony_Betteridge

The only difference I noticed when I changed to the EVR firmware, Other than having wifi calling of course, was a couple of extra apps which I deleted. There is no EE branding coming up on my phone. Regarding future firmware if it doesn't come OTA I will go to Sammobile.

Thanks. Do you have a horrible logo on your phone? And what's Sammobile?

Apologies for briefly going off-topic but what's been your experience of EE customer service?

1manonthebog · 06-04-2015, 08:23

http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/

Browno01 · 06-04-2015, 09:52

What dates are we waiting for? I'm so confused now...

April 7th - iPhone roll out?

Tony_Betteridge · 06-04-2015, 10:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevonBloke

See my post above. Don't bother, it won't work.
It's not possible to hand off from IP based WiFi calling to Circuit switched 2G or 3G.
Once VoLTE is up and running you will be able to handoff both to and from WiFi calling.

Tried it anyway and yes you are correct, as soon as I go out of wifi range the call disconnects.

Denco1 · 06-04-2015, 10:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony_Betteridge

Tried it anyway and yes you are correct, as soon as I go out of wifi range the call disconnects.

Do you have the options WiFi preferred, cellular preferred and WiFi only or is it just a toggle?

Synthetic42 · 06-04-2015, 12:17

Anyone have an EE S5 mini to try this on?

05-04-2015, 22:30	#1276
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Quote: Originally Posted by Tony_Betteridge It's supposed to. I'll test it out tomorrow. See my post above. Don't bother, it won't work. It's not possible to hand off from IP based WiFi calling to Circuit switched 2G or 3G. Once VoLTE is up and running you will be able to handoff both to and from WiFi calling.

05-04-2015, 22:34	#1277
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Quote: Originally Posted by d123 What about Lucan? Oh yeah... damn.... Sorry, long day, Kids, Easter egg hunt, etc. etc.....

05-04-2015, 22:35	#1278
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Anyway, Lucan's posts are always so short and cryptic no one knows what the hell is going on half the time! Hahahahaha

05-04-2015, 22:41	#1279
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,993	Quote: Originally Posted by DevonBloke Anyway, Lucan's posts are always so short and cryptic no one knows what the hell is going on half the time! Hahahahaha Ooh, there is an reply that I just won't make there...

05-04-2015, 22:46	#1280
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	He knows I'm joking........ Bugger........ I hope he does.....

05-04-2015, 23:01	#1281
carnivalist Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,412	Quote: This evening i have gone round specially to see my sister as she has a EE branded S5 ... Do you have to own an EE branded phone, or is it available to customers with SIM-Free phones? I'm thinking of joining but I may not get a handset contract. For one thing I don't want that horrible logo on the back of my handset - at least the Orange one was attractive. (In fact my Graphic Design Creative Director brother says the Orange branding was one of the best ever and that it is a shame they ditched it in favour of the current monstrosity). I seem to recall something similar that IIRC never took off when I was on Orange . It was only available on a very small number of handset brands and only those with Orange firmware.

05-04-2015, 23:15	#1282
Browno01 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 64	Quote: Originally Posted by simon69c I noticed my iPhone said Cellular too so went into settings to take a look and sure enough my language was set to "English" as opposed to "English (U.K.)". I changed this and iOS did some reconfiguring and now it calls that section of settings Mobile rather than Cellular. I have certainly never specifically changed that setting myself so my guess is that it may be the default setting, at least for Apple-supplied iPhones. Note that it is the iPhone Language setting that ought to be "English (U.K.)" - you may have seen the Region being set to United Kingdom and assumed that was what was being talked about. Mine was set to United Kingdom for the Region but English for the iPhone Language. Bizarre. Language was definitely showing as English UK, went in and tapped English UK, it said 'Setting Language', went back into the Settings app and it now says Mobile... Roll on the iPhone roll out...

05-04-2015, 23:16	#1283
Tony_Betteridge Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 10	Quote: Originally Posted by carnivalist Do you have to own an EE branded phone, or is it available to customers with SIM-Free phones? I'm thinking of joining but I may not get a handset contract. For one thing I don't want that horrible logo on the back of my handset - at least the Orange one was attractive. (In fact my Graphic Design Creative Director brother says the Orange branding was one of the best ever and that it is a shame they ditched it in favour of the current monstrosity). I seem to recall something similar that IIRC never took off when I was on Orange . It was only available on a very small number of handset brands and only those with Orange firmware. See my posts above

05-04-2015, 23:23	#1284
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Us poor iPhone users who were promised the Earth now have to wait......... But hey!.... Apple Pay!!!

05-04-2015, 23:34	#1285
Browno01 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 64	Quote: Originally Posted by DevonBloke Us poor iPhone users who were promised the Earth now have to wait......... But hey!.... Apple Pay!!! Just like waiting for Wifi calling, hey! I'm sure we'll get Apple Pay near the Watch/8.3 launch... 🙏

05-04-2015, 23:34	#1286
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	If its as bad as 'Volte in its infancy' you may have to use something similar to this 'easy fix'. http://www.imore.com/your-iphone-6-o...-att-heres-fix Terminology is getting ever more weird. 'Easy fix' decodes to 'Turn it off'.

05-04-2015, 23:48	#1287
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic If its as bad as 'Volte in its infancy' you may have to use something similar to this 'easy fix'. http://www.imore.com/your-iphone-6-o...-att-heres-fix Terminology is getting ever more weird. 'Easy fix' decodes to 'Turn it off'. This is because LTE to 3G handoff either wasn't implemented or wasn't working properly. Probably why EE are waiting for A: Their 4G 1800/2600 to be near 98% and B: 800Mhz to be rolled out before turning on VoLTE. I don't know if they are going to have 4G to 3G handoff (I assume so) but if they aren't (at least initially) then down here at least they are going to want to have 800 everywhere first otherwise there will be one hell of a lot of dropped calls.

05-04-2015, 23:51	#1288
jchamier Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: This forum Posts: 3,392	Quote: Originally Posted by d123 I only ever buy direct from Apple and I've never had one set to English or saying Cellular (as opposed to English UK and Mobile). Maybe you changed it to English (thinking that was the default UK setting) when going through the set up pages when you got it? A strange occurrence, no matter how it happened though. If you power on a new iPhone without a SIM, the first prompt will have English at the top, and then it prompts for a SIM. If you fit the network SIM first then power on, you'll find the first prompt will have English UK at the top.

05-04-2015, 23:52	#1289
jchamier Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: This forum Posts: 3,392	Quote: Originally Posted by DevonBloke This is because LTE to 3G handoff either wasn't implemented or wasn't working properly. In Chicago AT&T have have issues with their LTE network. My family on the east cost using Verizon have had no issues with VoLTE since enabling it at Christmas. Just works they report. Also that iMore article refers to "4G" but as we know they mean 3G.

06-04-2015, 00:03	#1290
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,887	There are issues in New York city too, with I think T-Mobile, who don't own much spectrum. The USA is a strange country...

06-04-2015, 00:04	#1291
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,993	Quote: Originally Posted by jchamier If you power on a new iPhone without a SIM, the first prompt will have English at the top, and then it prompts for a SIM. If you fit the network SIM first then power on, you'll find the first prompt will have English UK at the top. That figures, I always put the sim in first,

06-04-2015, 00:51	#1292
jchamier Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: This forum Posts: 3,392	Quote: Originally Posted by Gigabit There are issues in New York city too, with I think T-Mobile, who don't own much spectrum. The USA is a strange country... I think of it as a collection of countries. The radio freqs sold by "market" is old and still odd.

06-04-2015, 01:47	#1293
carnivalist Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,412	Quote: Originally Posted by Tony_Betteridge See my posts above That's a bit of a bummer. Really didn't want an EE branded phone. Am I overly concerned with that aspect. I was orange and hated the intrusive firmware. Is there any issue with receiving android and any other updates with operator firmware these days? I know it used to take Orange ages and they would even stop issuing them for an obsolete model even if said updates were still available. Not keen.on having a logo eithrr. Do EE routinely. put their logo on their handsets? The photo in the free powerbank promotion has one.

06-04-2015, 07:13	#1294
Tony_Betteridge Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 10	Quote: Originally Posted by carnivalist That's a bit of a bummer. Really didn't want an EE branded phone. Am I overly concerned with that aspect. I was orange and hated the intrusive firmware. Is there any issue with receiving android and any other updates with operator firmware these days? I know it used to take Orange ages and they would even stop issuing them for an obsolete model even if said updates were still available. Not keen.on having a logo eithrr. Do EE routinely. put their logo on their handsets? The photo in the free powerbank promotion has one. The only difference I noticed when I changed to the EVR firmware, Other than having wifi calling of course, was a couple of extra apps which I deleted. There is no EE branding coming up on my phone. Regarding future firmware if it doesn't come OTA I will go to Sammobile.

06-04-2015, 08:18	#1295
carnivalist Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,412	Quote: Originally Posted by Tony_Betteridge The only difference I noticed when I changed to the EVR firmware, Other than having wifi calling of course, was a couple of extra apps which I deleted. There is no EE branding coming up on my phone. Regarding future firmware if it doesn't come OTA I will go to Sammobile. Thanks. Do you have a horrible logo on your phone? And what's Sammobile? Apologies for briefly going off-topic but what's been your experience of EE customer service?

06-04-2015, 08:23	#1296
1manonthebog Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 2,332	http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/

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EE Wifi Calling

06-04-2015, 09:52	#1297
Browno01 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 64	What dates are we waiting for? I'm so confused now... April 7th - iPhone roll out?

06-04-2015, 10:01	#1298
Tony_Betteridge Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 10	Quote: Originally Posted by DevonBloke See my post above. Don't bother, it won't work. It's not possible to hand off from IP based WiFi calling to Circuit switched 2G or 3G. Once VoLTE is up and running you will be able to handoff both to and from WiFi calling. Tried it anyway and yes you are correct, as soon as I go out of wifi range the call disconnects.

06-04-2015, 10:52	#1299
Denco1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 983	Quote: Originally Posted by Tony_Betteridge Tried it anyway and yes you are correct, as soon as I go out of wifi range the call disconnects. Do you have the options WiFi preferred, cellular preferred and WiFi only or is it just a toggle?

06-04-2015, 12:17	#1300
Synthetic42 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Newcastle Posts: 1,510	Anyone have an EE S5 mini to try this on?