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Old 05-10-2014, 16:24
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Yes, I would be interested to hear.
Not as exciting, but as moving and memorable (albeit in different ways). For example, if Frankie had performed her very beautiful Waltz last night, I'd have said it was almost up there with what Jake did. Both left a lasting impression.
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Old 05-10-2014, 16:30
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Pixie was very graceful and nice to watch, but she didn't blow me away like Jake and Janette did. I think, as others have said, it is difficult to compare a waltz and a salsa as they are so different in terms of moves and tempo.

The one I was left underwhelmed by was Frankie, but I think the choice of music was all wrong for a charleston.
I agree with these comments. It can be impossible to compare different dances due to the fact that they are so very different, an up tempo latin rhythm versus a sophisticated Ballroom dance. Try comparing a fantastic jive to a beautiful Foxtrot. For me, whether a dance is "exciting" doesn't really come into play as you are never comparing like with like. The important factors will come into play, technique, posture, frame ,topline and connection if ballroom, footwork, musicality, timing etc.Connection with the audience is difficult but a real bonus, I always look to decide which contestant executes these essentials the best, whether Ballroom or Latin.
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Old 05-10-2014, 17:05
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I agree with these comments. It can be impossible to compare different dances due to the fact that they are so very different, an up tempo latin rhythm versus a sophisticated Ballroom dance. Try comparing a fantastic jive to a beautiful Foxtrot. For me, whether a dance is "exciting" doesn't really come into play as you are never comparing like with like. The important factors will come into play, technique, posture, frame ,topline and connection if ballroom, footwork, musicality, timing etc.Connection with the audience is difficult but a real bonus, I always look to decide which contestant executes these essentials the best, whether Ballroom or Latin.
That's absolutely right. But you clearly know a lot about dance, that's obvious from your posts. You know enough to decide on those reasons. I don't. The technique has to be appalling for me to know there's anything wrong. (For example, I thought Simon was going to get very high marks on technique and I have no idea why his pivots were not great.) And we can't always even see their feet. I have to go on whether I'd want to watch it again or not - how I felt - because I've got nothing else to go on. (Actually I probably more go on who I like and who I feel I need to stick up for when I'm voting, until we're in the last few weeks.)
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Old 05-10-2014, 17:13
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That's absolutely right. But you clearly know a lot about dance, that's obvious from your posts. You know enough to decide on those reasons. I don't. The technique has to be appalling for me to know there's anything wrong. (For example, I thought Simon was going to get very high marks on technique and I have no idea why his pivots were not great.) And we can't always even see their feet. I have to go on whether I'd want to watch it again or not - how I felt - because I've got nothing else to go on. (Actually I probably more go on who I like and who I feel I need to stick up for when I'm voting, until we're in the last few weeks.)
I am sorry if I sound a know it all, I was just trying to address the many posters that say that Pixies waltz was either "dull" or "boring" or "easy", and "no so exciting" as Jakes Salsa. Yes I agree it was not as "exciting", but the point I was trying to make is that a waltz isn't supposed to be "exciting". I thought she did a good job, in my opinion. Wish the camera's would not keep swirling around and would stay in one place so you could see every movement and the feet.
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Old 05-10-2014, 17:18
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Pixie's dance was exquisite. She has wonderful extensions and superb timing.
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Old 05-10-2014, 17:28
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Pixie's dance was exquisite. She has wonderful extensions and superb timing.
I thought so too. Little off balance in some more difficult areas, but overall I thought it was lovely.AND she stayed in Trents right side ( could do so even more) but for week 2, very nice. More movement needed, she and Trent should be powering their way across the floor rather than stepping.
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Old 05-10-2014, 17:32
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I am sorry if I sound a know it all, I was just trying to address the many posters that say that Pixies waltz was either "dull" or "boring" or "easy", and "no so exciting" as Jakes Salsa. Yes I agree it was not as "exciting", but the point I was trying to make is that a waltz isn't supposed to be "exciting". I thought she did a good job, in my opinion. Wish the camera's would not keep swirling around and would stay in one place so you could see every movement and the feet.
Oh, I'm so sorry, I didn't mean you sounded like a know it all, didn't mean that at all. I'm really sorry if it sounded like that. I love reading the posts on here of people who really know about dance. I just meant that for a lot of us, in a public vote, it won't depend on those things. Sorry.
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Old 05-10-2014, 17:34
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Pixie was awesome. Beautiful waltz and it was beautifully danced. I also liked Frankie, who had the most difficult choreography to deal with.
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Old 05-10-2014, 17:38
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Oh, I'm so sorry, I didn't mean you sounded like a know it all, didn't mean that at all. I'm really sorry if it sounded like that. I love reading the posts on here of people who really know about dance. I just meant that for a lot of us, in a public vote, it won't depend on those things. Sorry.
Really no need to apologise,I was worried asI don't want to bore people. I know that a lot of the posters aren't very interested in the actual dancing so it is nice to meet some that are !
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Old 05-10-2014, 17:40
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Not as exciting, but as moving and memorable (albeit in different ways). For example, if Frankie had performed her very beautiful Waltz last night, I'd have said it was almost up there with what Jake did. Both left a lasting impression.
This!!

For me last night the memorable waltz was Natalie and Tim... now that was touching.

Also, my main issue with the dance was the underserved 9's....there was room for improvement and it is too early for 9's....and I would say the same about Jakes too, yes the lifts were amazing but his salsa steps were not....
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Old 05-10-2014, 17:42
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This!!

For me last night the memorable waltz was Natalie and Tim... now that was touching.

Also, my main issue with the dance was the underserved 9's....there was room for improvement and it is too early for 9's....and I would say the same about Jakes too, yes the lifts were amazing but his salsa steps were not....
Yes, I do agree that its way too early in the competition for 9's.....give them near erfect marks now and there's nowhere else to go with the marks later
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Old 05-10-2014, 17:47
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Really no need to apologise,I was worried asI don't want to bore people. I know that a lot of the posters aren't very interested in the actual dancing so it is nice to meet some that are !
That's kind of you but I'm still sorry. Sometimes posts come out sounding the opposite of how I meant them!
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Old 05-10-2014, 17:51
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That's kind of you but I'm still sorry. Sometimes posts come out sounding the opposite of how I meant them!
Know how you feel. Sometimes I'm in a rush to get my thoughts out, and find I could have worded things better afterwards.
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Old 05-10-2014, 18:30
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Is she dating Thom? They were pictured going into a club together after the show last night.
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Old 05-10-2014, 18:45
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I thought Pixie was absolutely marvellous last night.
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Old 05-10-2014, 18:46
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........ Wish the camera's would not keep swirling around and would stay in one place so you could see every movement and the feet.
Agreed; I don't have an appreciation of the fine technical aspects but I wish they'd give us the chance to study the action.

....... More movement needed, she and Trent should be powering their way across the floor rather than stepping.
That's what I have come to expect, but who cares as didn't last year's winners do a well received waltz that had as much drive as a supermarket trolley?

Anyways,Pixie (silly name,almost as bad as Simon's hair) is easy on the eye and watching her elegantly extend her arms and kick her legs.....well,I can think of worse ways of spending a minute and a half.
Jake was fun,I applauded him myself,but the shock and awe expressed by some seems to me less about the finer points of dance critique and more like mass hysteria.
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Old 05-10-2014, 18:53
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Agreed; I don't have an appreciation of the fine technical aspects but I wish they'd give us the chance to study the action.



That's what I have come to expect, but who cares as didn't last year's winners do a well received waltz that had as much drive as a supermarket trolley?

Anyways,Pixie (silly name,almost as bad as Simon's hair) is easy on the eye and watching her elegantly extend her arms and kick her legs.....well,I can think of worse ways of spending a minute and a half.
Jake was fun,I applauded him myself,but the shock and awe expressed by some seems to me less about the finer points of dance critique and more like mass hysteria.
Got a feeling that "Pixie" is a nickname that she has had since childhood, seem to recall seeing that somewhere. Wish they would teach the ladies to kick correctly, would look far more elegant,
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Old 05-10-2014, 19:03
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I liked Pixies waltz but I agree with the other posters It was not emotional. Unlike frankies with was for me emotional! Jake was really great. Those lifts were really good and I but scary! I thought that he was going to drop her!
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Old 05-10-2014, 19:12
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Maybe because Pixie is extremely unlikeable, seems to think she's already won and was overmarked by the judges for the second week in a row? I'm not saying she's the next Ann Widdecombe, but her Jive lacked energy and her Waltz lacked emotion.
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Old 05-10-2014, 19:26
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I don't think Pixie is aware of how Strictly works. She doesn't realise that her words on VT's will actually make a huge difference to how people feel about her. She is giving the impression that she can just go through the motions with Strictly just an add on to her normal life. An early dump into the bottom 2 will show her true colours. She will either not care a toss or be so shocked & mortified it will make her work harder.
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Old 05-10-2014, 19:30
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At the risk of getting run out of the joint, I'd add John Sergeant's. Maybe not the most accomplished, but definitely one of the most charming!
I think that's the John Sid mentioned in the previous paragraph.

Yes, I would be interested to hear.
My reply is at post #38 and is similar to other replies.

Jan I think you could be right about Pixie not understanding how the show works. I think she will be bothered though.
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Old 05-10-2014, 19:52
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[QUOTE=BuddyBontheNet;75077608My reply is at post #38 and is similar to other replies.

I'm ashamed to say that I was being sarcastic. Waltz is not supposed to be exciting.
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Old 05-10-2014, 19:53
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I think that's the John Sid mentioned in the previous paragraph.
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Ah - as my school report once said "Needs to spend less time talking at the back of the class and pay more attention.....".
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Old 05-10-2014, 20:18
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I think that's the John Sid mentioned in the previous paragraph.
Ah - as my school report once said "Needs to spend less time talking at the back of the class and pay more attention.....".
Yes! x
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Old 05-10-2014, 20:30
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Exactly what about her?!?! She is a bit meh not much there

I have a feeling she won't get the fan votes and I'm fine with that
I wonder that's why her career failed
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