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The Ratings Thread (Part 62)
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AlexiR
16-10-2014
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Fantastic Beasts has potential due to it being set in the 1920s and in New York which weren't covered in Harry Potter which already gives it a different feel, the real test who they cast as Newt, it'll be someone who either well known or up and coming. Warner Bros seems to be focusing on Fantastic Beasts, DC and Lego as their core franchises with sequels to Godzilla and other films as well. I do wonder whether WB will be mining their animation libraries for film or television since they own iconic characters like The Flintstones, The Jetsons etc”

Well they tried a Flintstones revival at Fox with Seth MacFarlane and it just didn't get off the ground because nobody involved could agree on what the show should be. Its a shame because I was quite looking forward to it. There was talk of some kind of horrific Jetsons live action film a while back if I remember rightly but I'm hoping those plans have died. Given the current trend in the US of mining existing properties (particularly films) for new series I'm sure Warner Bros. will dig back into their archives as well. There are seriously about a 100 revival/reboot pitches and pilot scripts doing the round right now. Most of them sound terrible though so we'll see what happens.

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“A daily chatshow is tricky to pull off, it works for daytime but for some reason, it's not been successful in this country in primetime or latenight aside from Graham Norton and even he gave it up once he moved to the BBC. I think 5 will more likely and commission comedy panel shows or formats before going onto sitcoms and sketch shows”

True on the daily nature of it. I suppose Last Week Tonight might be a better format to ape in the UK. It just seems odd to me that the UK has never really been able to get a show of this nature up off the ground. Channel 4 kind of tried with 10 O'Clock Live but that was just a really poorly conceived show.
Jonwo
16-10-2014
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“Well they tried a Flintstones revival at Fox with Seth MacFarlane and it just didn't get off the ground because nobody involved could agree on what the show should be. Its a shame because I was quite looking forward to it. There was talk of some kind of horrific Jetsons live action film a while back if I remember rightly but I'm hoping those plans have died. Given the current trend in the US of mining existing properties (particularly films) for new series I'm sure Warner Bros. will dig back into their archives as well. There are seriously about a 100 revival/reboot pitches and pilot scripts doing the round right now. Most of them sound terrible though so we'll see what happens. ”

WB is working on an animated Flintstones film with Will Ferrell's production company but I think returning the show to its more adult roots which is was in the 1960s would be the way forward, people forget it wasn't a children's TV series, it was an animated sitcom much like The Simpsons and Family Guy are today.

Aside from Minority Report and perhaps Rush Hour, I'm not keen on TV series based on films, Hannibal doesn't count as that is based on the books and not the films. It can work like Bates Motel and Parenthood but most times they fail.
AlexiR
16-10-2014
Well this is interesting...

US broadcaster CBS has just launched a brand new subscription service called CBS All Access which offers viewers ad free viewing of CBS content (and live streaming of 14 of CBS' biggest affiliates which will be counted and included in Nielsen figures) for $5.99 a month. Included in this is day after streaming of 15 CBS prime time series, streaming of every season of 8 of CBS' prime time series and access to 5,000 episodes of classic series including Star Trek, Cheers and Twin Peaks.

Rumours also suggesting that CBS will eventually expand this service to include other CBS owned channels potentially including Showtime which has been talking up offering an online subscription service lately. HBO also intend to launch an online subscription service next year.
yorkie100
16-10-2014
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“Well this is interesting...

US broadcaster CBS has just launched a brand new subscription service called CBS All Access which offers viewers ad free viewing of CBS content (and live streaming of 14 of CBS' biggest affiliates which will be counted and included in Nielsen figures) for $5.99 a month. Included in this is day after streaming of 15 CBS prime time series, streaming of every season of 8 of CBS' prime time series and access to 5,000 episodes of classic series including Star Trek, Cheers and Twin Peaks.

Rumours also suggesting that CBS will eventually expand this service to include other CBS owned channels potentially including Showtime which has been talking up offering an online subscription service lately. HBO also intend to launch an online subscription service next year.”

Funnily enough I was suggesting something similar for this country for either BBC or ITV back catalogue with possibly first run series as well. I am sure there will be a thousand reasons why it wouldnt work but its a technology that is increasing its reach and maybe should be considered.
yorkie100
16-10-2014
Has anybody got the official rating for XF Sunday 28th September?
Jonwo
16-10-2014
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Funnily enough I was suggesting something similar for this country for either BBC or ITV back catalogue with possibly first run series as well. I am sure there will be a thousand reasons why it wouldnt work but its a technology that is increasing its reach and maybe should be considered.”

ITV already does it with ITV Player Plus but not to the same extent, it won't affect first run series which will continue to be streamed on CBS.com but it's a good way for CBS to monetize their backcatalogue.
AlexiR
16-10-2014
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Funnily enough I was suggesting something similar for this country for either BBC or ITV back catalogue with possibly first run series as well. I am sure there will be a thousand reasons why it wouldnt work but its a technology that is increasing its reach and maybe should be considered.”

I'm not sure its something the BBC could justify doing. They wouldn't be able to charge a subscription fee and the price of actually setting up and maintaining the service likely would be far too high for them to justify. In theory ITV have gone the launch more channels route with stuff like Encore (which is partially designed to showcase their drama archive) rather than subscription service. Its something I could see Channel 4 diving into.

Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“ITV already does it with ITV Player Plus but not to the same extent, it won't affect first run series which will continue to be streamed on CBS.com but it's a good way for CBS to monetize their backcatalogue.”

Its a service being primarily aimed at 'cord cutters' in the US I imagine so its less about monetising the back catalogue and more about making sure you can continue to monetise those viewers moving forward. This is part of why I expect them to expand the service over the next year to include other channels they're linked with. This could potentially include The CW content as well as Showtime and others.
patrick95
16-10-2014
Just skimming though the last couple of pages so not sure if this has been mentioned but Netflix have managed to score all the episodes of FRIENDS ready to watch in early 2015...not likely to have much of an impact in terms of damaging the repeat rating but I thought it was an interesting snippet none the less.
AlexiR
16-10-2014
Originally Posted by patrick95:
“Just skimming though the last couple of pages so not sure if this has been mentioned but Netflix have managed to score all the episodes of FRIENDS ready to watch in early 2015...not likely to have much of an impact in terms of damaging the repeat rating but I thought it was an interesting snippet none the less.”

Does that include UK rights? I thought it was just the US and Canada.
johnnymc
16-10-2014
"Top Of The Lake" is to return, another excellent drama series with only moderate ratings. The best series I'd watched in a very long time. But BBC TWO can nurture these dramas regardless of the ratings, very pleased it will return.
D.M.N.
16-10-2014
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Has anybody got the official rating for XF Sunday 28th September?”

The X Factor: 9.58m (37.4%) / 10.10m (39.5%)
Jaycee Dove
16-10-2014
Channel 4 just messed up a pretty big Deal or No Deal game by having an extra unscheduled ad break and repeating box openings. It over ran by nearly 10 minutes so no idea how they will catch up from here.

Sky's EPG did not update so anyone recording will likely miss the ending.

The banker just tweeted that nobody is going to let him press the buttons any more!

For the record then it will be a 70 minute episode tonight and a 45 minute one tomorrow. Good luck with the tape checking.
LittleByLittle
16-10-2014
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“So we lose one childish poster and gain another.”

Spot the irony of this post unbelievable.
Roscoe Barnes
16-10-2014
A huge share for Corrie last night. I can't remember the last time it recorded a 38% share. Hopefully the verdict will do equally as well on Friday.

With regards to the comparison y-o-y that someone brought up was quite pointless. The soap was in a much healthly state 12-months and this week's episodes have come off a really low base over the Summer. It was never going to match the high of last year. Same with Emmerdale. Both had huge storylines at this stage last year and were posting much better ratings. 1-2m viewers aren't just going to appear overnight.
Philip Wilson
16-10-2014
Universal Channel are really going all out promoting How To Get Away With Murder which starts next Wednesday, going through Nottingham the other day there were loads of billboards up for it. Have also seen adverts on Sky channels and ITV2, wonder whether they will put one during the X Factor this weekend too? Looking forward to it and it should be a record launch for them considering the promotion.
yorkie100
16-10-2014
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“The X Factor: 9.58m (37.4%) / 10.10m (39.5%)”

Thank you.
yorkie100
16-10-2014
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“I'm not sure its something the BBC could justify doing. They wouldn't be able to charge a subscription fee and the price of actually setting up and maintaining the service likely would be far too high for them to justify. In theory ITV have gone the launch more channels route with stuff like Encore (which is partially designed to showcase their drama archive) rather than subscription service. Its something I could see Channel 4 diving into.
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The BBC would have to charge a subscription fee although I see the arguments against, but a service where you could access all the BBCs back catogue on demand would have a lot of takers. At the moment the seem happy just to sell dvds but in the future when dvd sales decline maybe things might change.
H of De Vil
16-10-2014
Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“A huge share for Corrie last night. I can't remember the last time it recorded a 38% share. Hopefully the verdict will do equally as well on Friday.

With regards to the comparison y-o-y that someone brought up was quite pointless. The soap was in a much healthly state 12-months and this week's episodes have come off a really low base over the Summer. It was never going to match the high of last year. Same with Emmerdale. Both had huge storylines at this stage last year and were posting much better ratings. 1-2m viewers aren't just going to appear overnight.”

I just brought it up to highlight how Corrie has lost viewers over the course of 1year. Its casual audience has diminished which is a shame (built up by Phil Collinson), but only the fault of the current team in charge.

It was to show how much of an effect SB has been. The storyline for Corrie this week was promoted as much as last years.

Emmerdale however was on a much bigger storyline last year so its no surprise its down.
yorkie100
16-10-2014
Predictions for The Great Fire anybody?
I have no idea whether the audience will be interested in the subject matter but I am thinking around 5m. That or a bit more would be excellent. Its not going to suprise us though with an enormous figure is it?
hyperstarsponge
16-10-2014
The Great Fire sounds good but its the same time as Peaky Blinders on BBC Two.
ftv
16-10-2014
According to someone who's seen it the first episode is pretty slow and the fire is by and large unconvincing - just an opinion.
NeilVW
16-10-2014
Originally Posted by xeo:
“Corrie got 7.72m (37.7%). Seems to be rebounding a little bit from the awful figures it's had lately.

Emmerdale doing well also with 6.51m (34.2%).

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s3...wednesday.html”

Figures including +1

Corrie: 7.97m (38.9%)
* exc +1, best Wed rating since 28 May
Emmerdale: 6.74m (35.4%)

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“What was I'm A Celeb last year 13.52m?”

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“It was with +1 and the fireworks were 13.52m without Scotland watching! So Bake Off isn't the most watched sporting event since The Jubilee Concert.”

Those numbers again:

Sun 17/11/2013
21:03 - I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!: 13.048m (44.76%) / 13.518m (46.37%)

Tue 31/12/2013
23:58 - New Year's Eve Fireworks: 13.525m (61.87%) excluding Scotland
* rating to 2 decimal places was 13.52m (i.e. it fell between 13,524,500 and 13,524,999)

Sources: BARB, Broadcast magazine

The true timeshift for the fireworks was +0.64m.
H of De Vil
16-10-2014
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“The Great Fire sounds good but its the same time as Peaky Blinders on BBC Two.”

And that is why ITV have a +1 option
jsam93
16-10-2014
Originally Posted by LittleByLittle:
“Spot the irony of this post unbelievable.”

So true. Talk about a complete lack of self-awareness...
H of De Vil
16-10-2014
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Predictions for The Great Fire anybody?
I have no idea whether the audience will be interested in the subject matter but I am thinking around 5m. That or a bit more would be excellent. Its not going to suprise us though with an enormous figure is it?”

I think it will be around 4.8m inc+1. Paul O' Grady's Dogs will give it support in the schedule, but with recent dramas in that slot I don't hold out much hope.

It is something good to watch, so theoretically viewers should turn up. Anything below 4.5m inc+1 would be disappointing, but I imagine ITV will be selling it well abroad.
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