Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“And that is why ITV have a +1 option
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“And that is why ITV have a +1 option
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Or ITV Player with ad-block.
The Ratings Thread (Part 62)
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Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Predictions for The Great Fire anybody?
I have no idea whether the audience will be interested in the subject matter but I am thinking around 5m. That or a bit more would be excellent. Its not going to suprise us though with an enormous figure is it?”
“Predictions for The Great Fire anybody?
I have no idea whether the audience will be interested in the subject matter but I am thinking around 5m. That or a bit more would be excellent. Its not going to suprise us though with an enormous figure is it?”
I find the trailer really odd - the colours and everything about it looks very cheap and poor quality imo (though apparently it was massively expensive). Which, going on how the dramas I have liked have gone recently, probably means it will be a massive success! Certainly it's been promoted very strongly.
Originally Posted by jsam93:
“So true. Talk about a complete lack of self-awareness...”
“So true. Talk about a complete lack of self-awareness...”
Sorry, point out to me where I started calling dramas on other channel silly names?
According to reports Miranda Hart will be hosting a version of 'The Generation Game'. From what I gather it will be under a different name.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“I think it will be around 4.8m inc+1. Paul O' Grady's Dogs will give it support in the schedule, but with recent dramas in that slot I don't hold out much hope.
It is something good to watch, so theoretically viewers should turn up. Anything below 4.5m inc+1 would be disappointing, but I imagine ITV will be selling it well abroad.”
“I think it will be around 4.8m inc+1. Paul O' Grady's Dogs will give it support in the schedule, but with recent dramas in that slot I don't hold out much hope.
It is something good to watch, so theoretically viewers should turn up. Anything below 4.5m inc+1 would be disappointing, but I imagine ITV will be selling it well abroad.”
Going by past dramas in that slot I'd be shocked if its much above 4m inc +1, it also seems out of place for me on a Thursday.
Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“"Top Of The Lake" is to return, another excellent drama series with only moderate ratings. The best series I'd watched in a very long time. But BBC TWO can nurture these dramas regardless of the ratings, very pleased it will return.”
“"Top Of The Lake" is to return, another excellent drama series with only moderate ratings. The best series I'd watched in a very long time. But BBC TWO can nurture these dramas regardless of the ratings, very pleased it will return.”
Additionally given that its a co-production I imagine Top of the Lake is also nice and cost effective for them.
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“Additionally given that its a co-production I imagine Top of the Lake is also nice and cost effective for them.”
“Additionally given that its a co-production I imagine Top of the Lake is also nice and cost effective for them.”
Yeah it will be, it was a beautifully directed first series, look forward to the second.
Great fire will be a flop. It looks cheap and nasty. Made to sell abroad but the quality of the cgi looks suspect and the wigs look dire. Another drama flop for Itv.
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“BBC Two drama puts BBC One drama to shame these days.”
“BBC Two drama puts BBC One drama to shame these days.”
The last drama there was "Happy Valley" but I do agree there has been more memorable peaks on BBC TWO but maybe because it can be more risky without worrying about ratings.
Originally Posted by Philip Wilson:
“Universal Channel are really going all out promoting How To Get Away With Murder which starts next Wednesday, going through Nottingham the other day there were loads of billboards up for it. Have also seen adverts on Sky channels and ITV2, wonder whether they will put one during the X Factor this weekend too? Looking forward to it and it should be a record launch for them considering the promotion.”
“Universal Channel are really going all out promoting How To Get Away With Murder which starts next Wednesday, going through Nottingham the other day there were loads of billboards up for it. Have also seen adverts on Sky channels and ITV2, wonder whether they will put one during the X Factor this weekend too? Looking forward to it and it should be a record launch for them considering the promotion.”
Notice it's been heavily advertised in the tv listings magazines too.
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Predictions for The Great Fire anybody?
I have no idea whether the audience will be interested in the subject matter but I am thinking around 5m. That or a bit more would be excellent. Its not going to suprise us though with an enormous figure is it?”
“Predictions for The Great Fire anybody?
I have no idea whether the audience will be interested in the subject matter but I am thinking around 5m. That or a bit more would be excellent. Its not going to suprise us though with an enormous figure is it?”
Originally Posted by ftv:
“According to someone who's seen it the first episode is pretty slow and the fire is by and large unconvincing - just an opinion.”
“According to someone who's seen it the first episode is pretty slow and the fire is by and large unconvincing - just an opinion.”
So (as we say in Scotland) it's not going to set the heather on fire then?!
Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“The last drama there was "Happy Valley" but I do agree there has been more memorable peaks on BBC TWO but maybe because it can be more risky without worrying about ratings.”
“The last drama there was "Happy Valley" but I do agree there has been more memorable peaks on BBC TWO but maybe because it can be more risky without worrying about ratings.”
Memorable peaks?
A baker's risen meringue mixture on GBBO?
Or a wardrobe malfunction at an awards ceremony?
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Great fire will be a flop. It looks cheap and nasty. Made to sell abroad but the quality of the cgi looks suspect and the wigs look fire. Another drama flop for Itv.”
“Great fire will be a flop. It looks cheap and nasty. Made to sell abroad but the quality of the cgi looks suspect and the wigs look fire. Another drama flop for Itv.”
After what you said about Tumble and Cilla, I'd keep your predictions to yourself.
Originally Posted by jtnorth:
“I find the trailer really odd - the colours and everything about it looks very cheap and poor quality imo (though apparently it was massively expensive). Which, going on how the dramas I have liked have gone recently, probably means it will be a massive success! Certainly it's been promoted very strongly.”
“I find the trailer really odd - the colours and everything about it looks very cheap and poor quality imo (though apparently it was massively expensive). Which, going on how the dramas I have liked have gone recently, probably means it will be a massive success! Certainly it's been promoted very strongly.”
Have to say that was my first impression of the trailer but reviews have been quite good although I did point out earlier that critics never seem to know what the public want/like.
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“After what you said about Tumble and Cilla, I'd keep your predictions to yourself.”
“After what you said about Tumble and Cilla, I'd keep your predictions to yourself.”
Im right more often than Im not. Cilla got freak ratings, it was an anomaly which for some strange reason drew in a big audience. But usually, I am correct with my predictions. Mark my words, just see tomorrow when Great Fire launches underwhelmingly.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Incredible to think a baking show can generate a peak of 14.5m, and a show with Celebs eating bugs can do the same.
To giants of the TV world that plough through the opposition.”
“Incredible to think a baking show can generate a peak of 14.5m, and a show with Celebs eating bugs can do the same.
To giants of the TV world that plough through the opposition.”
And with celebs who a lot of us have never heard of.
Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“The last drama there was "Happy Valley" but I do agree there has been more memorable peaks on BBC TWO but maybe because it can be more risky without worrying about ratings.”
“The last drama there was "Happy Valley" but I do agree there has been more memorable peaks on BBC TWO but maybe because it can be more risky without worrying about ratings.”
But the dramas on Two would not get much bigger audiences if they were on One I dont think.
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“Notice it's been heavily advertised in the tv listings magazines too.
So (as we say in Scotland) it's not going to set the heather on fire then?! ”
“Notice it's been heavily advertised in the tv listings magazines too.
So (as we say in Scotland) it's not going to set the heather on fire then?!
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Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Im right more often than Im not. Cilla got freak ratings, it was an anomaly which for some strange reason drew in a big audience. But usually, I am correct with my predictions. Mark my words, just see tomorrow when Great Fire launches underwhelmingly.”
“Im right more often than Im not. Cilla got freak ratings, it was an anomaly which for some strange reason drew in a big audience. But usually, I am correct with my predictions. Mark my words, just see tomorrow when Great Fire launches underwhelmingly.”
Cilla's ratings were based on the fact that it was a heavily trailed drama about a well known singer with a brilliant actress in the lead role. It was a high quality piece of drama, not an anomaly. Don't worry Samuel, your words are marked.
What would be an underwhelming rating may I ask?
What should perhaps be noted is that this is not just another cop drama on ITV, but actually an ambitious historic drama.
The fact that CGI is not used much if at all, makes it all the more expensive.
The fact that CGI is not used much if at all, makes it all the more expensive.
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Im right more often than Im not. Cilla got freak ratings, it was an anomaly which for some strange reason drew in a big audience. But usually, I am correct with my predictions. Mark my words, just see tomorrow when Great Fire launches underwhelmingly.”
“Im right more often than Im not. Cilla got freak ratings, it was an anomaly which for some strange reason drew in a big audience. But usually, I am correct with my predictions. Mark my words, just see tomorrow when Great Fire launches underwhelmingly.”
You could be right more often than your not and still be only right 51% of the time though couldnt you?
Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“Cilla's ratings were based on the fact that it was a heavily trailed drama about with a brilliant actress in the lead role. It was a high quality piece of drama, not an anomaly. Don't worry Samuel, your words are marked.”
“Cilla's ratings were based on the fact that it was a heavily trailed drama about with a brilliant actress in the lead role. It was a high quality piece of drama, not an anomaly. Don't worry Samuel, your words are marked.”
Cilla was an anomaly. It had a good actress in the role [who made her name and developed her craft on BBC television btw] but she was in the roles of other Itv dramas like Mrs Biggs which didnt rate as well. Cilla was a non crime drama, the kind of drama that normally rates worse on Itv than crime dramas. And it aired against New tricks. The ratings it got were kind of flukey - a freak of nature. As you say, Itv hammered the promotion ad after ad which got people watching it. But it was one of those freakish rating shows. You wouldnt have expected a show about Cilla Black to rate that highly. Thankfully for the Beeb, it was a one-off series, never to see the light of day again so wont be used as a ratings weapon for Itv in years to come. The dramas which Itv need to rate well for returning value, however, are all flopping on the other hand!
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“What would be an underwhelming rating may I ask?”
“What would be an underwhelming rating may I ask?”
I wouldnt want to commit to a certain number, but I think less than 5million for such an expensive ambitious project could be considered disappointing for a drama of this nature on Itv or even BBC One.
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Im right more often than Im not. Cilla got freak ratings, it was an anomaly which for some strange reason drew in a big audience. But usually, I am correct with my predictions. Mark my words, just see tomorrow when Great Fire launches underwhelmingly.”
“Im right more often than Im not. Cilla got freak ratings, it was an anomaly which for some strange reason drew in a big audience. But usually, I am correct with my predictions. Mark my words, just see tomorrow when Great Fire launches underwhelmingly.”
You are so arrogant.
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Have to say that was my first impression of the trailer but reviews have been quite good although I did point out earlier that critics never seem to know what the public want/like.”
“Have to say that was my first impression of the trailer but reviews have been quite good although I did point out earlier that critics never seem to know what the public want/like.”
And Andrew Buchan has a good track record as a leading man, I think, and with Charles Dance and Daniel Mays it's a good cast. But I must admit I worry when ITV put a drama on a Thursday. I think it will bring a decent audience for the first one, after all the promotion. The question is if it will keep them, going on how drama is doing at the moment. (None of my family will watch it with me because of the trailer, so I might be biased.)
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