That'll just be a typo from DS as XF ran to its full slot last night.
The Ratings Thread (Part 62)
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Having not enjoyed the previous series of Homeland I think it's alot better this time around, looks like a good chunk of viewers have abandoned it though. Maybe it will do well on timeshift?
Good solid night for BBC2 with their alternative schedule.
Very funny reading pages of doom talk for SCD and then it goes up in ratings,
Good solid night for BBC2 with their alternative schedule.
Very funny reading pages of doom talk for SCD and then it goes up in ratings,
I wonder if Our Girl will return. While it hasn't been a ratings monster it has been pretty consistent across its run. I watch it on iplayer due to DA, which i prefer to watch when it shows because i don't like the ITV player.
I do like Our Girl and hope it returns. Then again... Crimson Fields did better and didn't.
I do like Our Girl and hope it returns. Then again... Crimson Fields did better and didn't.
You see how much ITV need there very own all year round Countryfile type programme that pulls in a figure always over 4.5m. Strictly boosts it over 6m, and they both help each other out.
The older skewing line-up is working well opposite ITV's younger, but that dissipates when Downton hits. You see what happens when the BBC try to skew young instead of old.
The older skewing line-up is working well opposite ITV's younger, but that dissipates when Downton hits. You see what happens when the BBC try to skew young instead of old.
Originally Posted by gilesb:
“I wonder if Our Girl will return. While it hasn't been a ratings monster it has been pretty consistent across its run. I watch it on iplayer due to DA, which i prefer to watch when it shows because i don't like the ITV player.
I do like Our Girl and hope it returns. Then again... Crimson Fields did better and didn't.”
“I wonder if Our Girl will return. While it hasn't been a ratings monster it has been pretty consistent across its run. I watch it on iplayer due to DA, which i prefer to watch when it shows because i don't like the ITV player.
I do like Our Girl and hope it returns. Then again... Crimson Fields did better and didn't.”
The Crimson field wasn't against DA though was it? If it was it could have done worse then Our Girl. I to hope Our Girls returns really enjoyed it.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Does anybody know what X Factor peaked with?”
“Does anybody know what X Factor peaked with?”
You know things are bad when Jenny Cummins doesn't tweet.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Tbh I not really surprised that Strictly is top on Sunday. Why would those who watched the 2hr programme on Saturday decide to miss the 40 minute one on Sunday.
Also don't forget how much of a supportive schedule the BBC has on Sunday compared with ITV. It does help.”
“Tbh I not really surprised that Strictly is top on Sunday. Why would those who watched the 2hr programme on Saturday decide to miss the 40 minute one on Sunday.
Also don't forget how much of a supportive schedule the BBC has on Sunday compared with ITV. It does help.”
Well there have been a few posts about the results being bland, pure filler, lacking tension etc(not actually my opinion in the main). The real issue here is X Factors performance which is drifting south even with the old panel dynamic back - realistically it should be at least matching SCD results. I would imagine Simon Cowell is a bit befuddled with what is playing out at the moment.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“You know things are bad when Jenny Cummins doesn't tweet.”
“You know things are bad when Jenny Cummins doesn't tweet.”
She could be on holiday. I've seen nothing from ITV about The X Factor peak on Sunday either.
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Well there have been a few posts about the results being bland, pure filler, lacking tension etc. The real issue here is X Factors performance which is drifting south even with the old panel dynamic back - realistically it should be at least matching SCD results. I would imagine Simon Cowell is a bit befuddled with what is playing out at the moment.”
“Well there have been a few posts about the results being bland, pure filler, lacking tension etc. The real issue here is X Factors performance which is drifting south even with the old panel dynamic back - realistically it should be at least matching SCD results. I would imagine Simon Cowell is a bit befuddled with what is playing out at the moment.”
For several years people have said that Strictly's results show lacks tension or excitement because it's recorded, it's not must see because it's recorded etc. That has never mattered. Strictly viewers will watch it anyway. It is usually in the 8.5-9.0m mark.
X Factor is just a very tired format. It's a show that is just coasting now. It's figures are still decent enough in the wider context but I can't see it ever getting back above Strictly on a regular basis.
I think it's relied on controversy too much. Controversy gets short-term gains but in the end, there's only so many shocks and surprises that viewers will accept. The reason shows like Strictly and I'm A Celeb are still top of the pile is that they haven;t had too much controversy and rely on a strong format and well made show.
I think it's relied on controversy too much. Controversy gets short-term gains but in the end, there's only so many shocks and surprises that viewers will accept. The reason shows like Strictly and I'm A Celeb are still top of the pile is that they haven;t had too much controversy and rely on a strong format and well made show.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“She could be on holiday. I've seen nothing from ITV about The X Factor peak on Sunday either.”
“She could be on holiday. I've seen nothing from ITV about The X Factor peak on Sunday either.”
True. Convenient were a holiday to fall during the week TXF falls even further behind Strictly, but not impossible.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Tony Bennett then? I can't understand why else it would suddenly climb by 600k week-on-week.”
“Tony Bennett then?
I can't understand why else it would suddenly climb by 600k week-on-week.”
Curiosity value a bit maybe, but it wasn't very good imo. Its going to sound harsh but Tony looked like he was on a senior citizens karaoke evening-he looked a bit overwhelmed to me.
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“I think it's relied on controversy too much. Controversy gets short-term gains but in the end, there's only so many shocks and surprises that viewers will accept.”
“I think it's relied on controversy too much. Controversy gets short-term gains but in the end, there's only so many shocks and surprises that viewers will accept.”
Front page of the Mirror: "X Factor 'cheat' storm." YAWN. How many times have we seen that type of headline now.
Reduced to a box in the top left hand corner, but still...
Originally Posted by Mr_Eye:
“You know things must be bad when Countryfile is getting blamed for X Factor falling back further.”
“You know things must be bad when Countryfile is getting blamed for X Factor falling back further.”
Who's blaming Countryfile for TXF lower rating?
If your talking about me, I was just suggesting that ITV need their own type of show that can pull in viewers wherever its placed.
Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“The Crimson field wasn't against DA though was it? If it was it could have done worse then Our Girl. I to hope Our Girls returns really enjoyed it.”
“The Crimson field wasn't against DA though was it? If it was it could have done worse then Our Girl. I to hope Our Girls returns really enjoyed it.”
Not sure that it will, simply because the story has been told. It was wrapped up, and combat missions in Afghanistan are essentially over anyway. Not sure where it would go from here.
And with Lacey Turner back on EE and ratings so-so, I can't see why the BBC would want to commission more.
6:30pm You've Been Framed 1.99m (10%). BELOW 2m.
7pm The Chase 3.29m
And you wonder why Strictly gets such an easy ride. ITV put up no fight whatsoever. The Chase has an uphill struggle to ever get an audience from YBF. ITV would be better either putting the ITV News at 6:30pm or Tipping Point.
7pm The Chase 3.29m
And you wonder why Strictly gets such an easy ride. ITV put up no fight whatsoever. The Chase has an uphill struggle to ever get an audience from YBF. ITV would be better either putting the ITV News at 6:30pm or Tipping Point.
Originally Posted by sn_22:
“Not sure that it will, simply because the story has been told. It was wrapped up, and combat missions in Afghanistan are essentially over anyway. Not sure where it would go from here.
And with Lacey Turner back on EE and ratings so-so, I can't see why the BBC would want to commission more.”
“Not sure that it will, simply because the story has been told. It was wrapped up, and combat missions in Afghanistan are essentially over anyway. Not sure where it would go from here.
And with Lacey Turner back on EE and ratings so-so, I can't see why the BBC would want to commission more.”
Yes although Our Girl has been pretty resilient in retaining its overnights I would imagine Miss Turner is going to be tied up (in television terms).
Antiques Roadshow is much better then The X Factor as it has the play along feature, It gets quite a varied age audience and will still be round long after X Factor is axed.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“True. Convenient were a holiday to fall during the week TXF falls even further behind Strictly, but not impossible.”
“True. Convenient were a holiday to fall during the week TXF falls even further behind Strictly, but not impossible.
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You know X Factor ratings are low when producer Mark Sidaway tweets about the staging of the show instead.
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“Strictly's dance off is an odd beast.
You can see why they want it because the sing off works so well on The X Factor and indeed worked really well on the BBC's Lloyd Webber shows but it just hasn't translated well to Strictly. I think the main problem there is that the judging dynamics mean the result is just never going to be as exciting or as dramatic. I also think it doesn't help that the bottom two are performing the same dance as the performance show but its obviously not practical to have them learn a second dance just for the dance off (is it?). Actually in an ideal world I wonder if it might work better if the bottom two couples performed the same dance at the same time but that feels like it would be a lot to ask of the celebrities. I might be tempted to go the Tumble route. As bad as that show was I thought it was on the right path with the formatting of its results being a decision based on a separate skill away from the main performance. I'm not sure how well a technical challenge of that nature translates to a mainstream dance contest though and Tumble's 'vault off' was a damp squib (like so much of that show).
The obvious problem with doing away with the dance off though is that it makes sustaining an hour long results show every Sunday a bit tricky. The results show is already padded to high heaven with the dance off. And its not like the results show does badly. I think maybe we just have to accept that Strictly's results are always going to be a much more sedate offering.”
“Strictly's dance off is an odd beast.
You can see why they want it because the sing off works so well on The X Factor and indeed worked really well on the BBC's Lloyd Webber shows but it just hasn't translated well to Strictly. I think the main problem there is that the judging dynamics mean the result is just never going to be as exciting or as dramatic. I also think it doesn't help that the bottom two are performing the same dance as the performance show but its obviously not practical to have them learn a second dance just for the dance off (is it?). Actually in an ideal world I wonder if it might work better if the bottom two couples performed the same dance at the same time but that feels like it would be a lot to ask of the celebrities. I might be tempted to go the Tumble route. As bad as that show was I thought it was on the right path with the formatting of its results being a decision based on a separate skill away from the main performance. I'm not sure how well a technical challenge of that nature translates to a mainstream dance contest though and Tumble's 'vault off' was a damp squib (like so much of that show).
The obvious problem with doing away with the dance off though is that it makes sustaining an hour long results show every Sunday a bit tricky. The results show is already padded to high heaven with the dance off. And its not like the results show does badly. I think maybe we just have to accept that Strictly's results are always going to be a much more sedate offering.”
Strictly should rely purely on outcome of vote so that there is some tension. The couples could still perform the dances again. It is an issue and one that is going to blow up this year. Judges will always save the pop princesses in the later stages over a dancer more popular with the public. This is a nonsense dancing show and the public should decide who they want to stay in.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“6:30pm You've Been Framed 1.99m (10%). BELOW 2m.
7pm The Chase 3.29m
And you wonder why Strictly gets such an easy ride. ITV put up no fight whatsoever. The Chase has an uphill struggle to ever get an audience from YBF. ITV would be better either putting the ITV News at 6:30pm or Tipping Point.”
“6:30pm You've Been Framed 1.99m (10%). BELOW 2m.
7pm The Chase 3.29m
And you wonder why Strictly gets such an easy ride. ITV put up no fight whatsoever. The Chase has an uphill struggle to ever get an audience from YBF. ITV would be better either putting the ITV News at 6:30pm or Tipping Point.”
I'm guessing ITV sticking it on about ten times a day across the portfolio has finally hurt its repeat value.
Cheap as chips TV but well past its sell by date.
Just caught up with the last 3 episodes of casualty, and I have to say for me the most moving bit of drama of drama for 2014 so far, what have the ratings been like?
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“I'm guessing ITV sticking it on about ten times a day across the portfolio has finally hurt its repeat value.
Cheap as chips TV but well past its sell by date.”
“I'm guessing ITV sticking it on about ten times a day across the portfolio has finally hurt its repeat value.
Cheap as chips TV but well past its sell by date.”
The Chase works better as a normal show then celebs, But they will not do that on Saturday night.
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