Fans of this or any other show are not monolithic in their views. I'd call myself a Star Trek fan and I don't agree with any of the views you report there.

FWIW, Netflix would be the best home for a revival in my view - no ads, global & simultaneous distribution, much greater likelihood of renewal than a network where the plug could be pulled at any moment.

Netflix would be one option as Les Moonves, head of CBS Corporation said that he'd be willing to produce shows for them but realistically I think if Star Trek were to return to television, it would be on CBS with maybe Netflix or Amazon as streaming partner in the same way Under the Dome, Extant and Zoo were produced.

Have I stepped into the US ratings thread?

A new Star Trek series would undoubtedly take place in the same universe as the films and be connected (even if only loosely) to them. The hardcore Star Trek fans are just going to have to make peace with that. It would just make no sense to do it any other way.

It has, IMO it will be the 2nd highest rated CW show of this year behind The Flash. This year, this is how I see it standing:

The Flash- I don't see this dropping under 1.2, it would need to drop 6 tenths for that!
Supernatural OR Arrow- Arrow could benefit from the crossover with The Flash VS the hardcore following of Supernatural.
The Vampire Diaries- It will be between 0.8-0.9 this year.
The 100- Average of 0.6-0.7
The Originals- Average of 0.6
Jane The Virgin- 0.5 or above.

All other returning shows... Beauty and The Beast, Hart of Dixie... will do poorly.

Another to add to the BBC list although it didnt do all that well last time did it?

No I think we have stepped into another universe !!

The Flash was ahead of Fox and most of ABC! Was it on at the same time as Agents Of Shield.

Just re-watching Grantchester. Its much better a 2nd time viewing. The 1st episode of some dramas can take longer to get into, used to the characters etc. Unfortunately viewers don't have a long enough attention span nowadays, so dramas need to hit the ground running.

It really needed to be 90minutes to introduce the characters more-so, and set the story properly. Mr Selfridge and Downton both did this.

they already have, and are too busy making episodes set in the orginal time line, even slag off the JJ verse Trek, half as much as they hate it.

It started very well, thanks to Murray's first Wimbledon final boosting BBC One's schedule, but then lost 2m over its short run.

Series 3 (July 2012) overnight/official
Episode 1 - 6.42m (27.5%)/6.91m
Episode 2 - 5.19m (22.4%)/5.78m
Episode 3 - 4.44m (20.4%)/5.01m

If it's filming soon, it could be ready for Winter/Spring, where it should do better than in summer, maybe they could try it on Thursdays, Inspector George Gently did well there in February.

Aside from Sherlock, BBC One doesn't have many 90 minute detective dramas but I imagine that's due to the fact that 1 hour dramas sell better abroad but ITV is in the same situation as only Vera, Endeavour and Mr Whicher were the only two hour dramas, the rest are 1 hour dramas.

Great British Bake Off uplift in the consolidated ratings between semi-final and final:

2010 - 3.03m > 2.75m (no uplift)
2011 - 4.42m > 5.06m (up 14.5%)
2012 - 5.70m > 6.74m (up 18.2%)
2013 - 7.41m > 9.45m (up 27.5%)
2014 - 8.82m [overnight]

I don't expect an uplift on the size of last year, but an uplift of about 15 percent could be possible, which would be an overnight average of around 10.1m.

Those figures a little better than I thought and I suppose it would have had some big opposition on a Sunday.

Wish the beeb would give Zoe Ball the big 'Strictly Come Dancing" gig if the do insist on two women presenting the show. Her chemistry with dancer Ian Waite is great too on "It Takes Two". There has to be a better presenter pairing for Claudia!

Are we all going to be disappointed if it doesnt hit 10m?

Ah, I'd forgotten about that. I remember The Teaching Awards, though, because they moved earlier, and then moved to BBC Two.

Yes very!! Total flop!! BBC weekly reach crisis!!

Good stuff. Better scheduling last night, starting it at 7.31pm rather than 7.28 or 7.29.

Wondered why the clash ratings weren't tweeted.

Great night for BBC2 with the cats documentary and Brian Cox doing very strong business. Very good idea to launch the two together - clearly they wanted to support Cox's show, which is about as flagship as they come for the channel.

A solid night too for EastEnders. It's a little bit odd at the moment - impressive on Friday, below expectations on Monday, but then a strong hold-up for the clash episode. At least it's kicking about - hopefully it can press on ahead of Christmas, where it should get a lot of support.

I don't get this. Why have X Factor at 7.30pm this Saturday then 8pm next Saturday? Are ITV expecting bad ratings this week? Just seems odd. Good to see The MOBOs get a prominent slot on ITV2.

I feel with "EastEnders" ratings its how one episode leaves another. When they nail the cliffhangers the next episode seems solid. The gun goes off Thursday, Fridays episode is up.

Most timeshifts have been 1.8-2m in recent weeks. I expect the same for the final. It's the overnight and peak rating that will be the thing to watch. Will it cross 9m tonight or maybe even 10m or was last week's boost as good as it gets?

I have a feeling it might just pull one more hallelujah rating out of the bag for the final. It's a final, there has been lots of interest today it seems and there is little in the way of competition.

I can only assume they were disappointed with the ratings for Saturday's half-hour clash, or they care more about Keyhole starting no later than 10pm than they do about Jonathan Ross.

ITV didn't provide too much competition to Wallander - perhaps not too surprising as this was July shortly before the Olympics. These were ITV's overnights covering that 21:00-22:30 slot (exc/inc +1):

08/07
21:05-22:30 - The Nation's Favourite Number 1 Single: 2.53m (10.8%) / 2.70m (11.5%)

15/07
20:00 - Superstar: 3.08m (11.1%) / 3.24m (11.7%)
21:35-23:00 - The Nation's Favourite Number 1 Single: 3.43m (16.2%) / 3.68m (17.4%)

22/07
20:05 - Dancing on Ice Goes Gold: 3.77m (17.1%) / 4.02m (18.2%)
22:05-22:20 - ITV News: 3.27m (16.0%) inc +1, not tape-checked

The DS report blames the disappointing figure for the finale of Wallander on the weather, although the share was down a couple of points week-on-week as well, so it wasn't just that. Nothing particularly impressive on any of the other main channels either.

Sources: DS (links above), Broadcast magazine