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The Ratings Thread (Part 62)
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H of De Vil
10-11-2014
Tbh in the grand scheme of things adverts in TV is unimportant, and not worth complaining about. If the BBC was full of ads we would know no different.

Its only because we have the BBC do viewers complain, and in some cases suggest BBC drama is better than others because it doesn't have adverts. As if that is a measure of quality.
Fudd
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Really Fudd ? That surprises me. By Catch Up do you mean on demand i.e. including unskippable ads? I admit to liking the fact that I know my viewing is counting when I do that, as they can see precisely how many are watching.

I don't get all the fuss about ads though, really. I guess dramas flow better without but with films they air fewer and with all other genres I don't really see a problem. We are just spoiled in this day and age of technology and so on, I think. I like watching my favourite shows as they go out and I can't see that approach changing for the sake of saving 12 minutes, time which needn't be lost anyway.”

Yes - though it's less to do with adverts on commercial networks and more the fact I can watch shows when I can rather than having to stick to a schedule. I do very much the same with BBC shows as well. I do tend to just use the network's catch up devices (iplayer/ITV Player/Demand 5 etc.) so would be counted by them.
Philip Wilson
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Yes - though it's less to do with adverts on commercial networks and more the fact I can watch shows when I can rather than having to stick to a schedule. I do very much the same with BBC shows as well. I do tend to just use the network's catch up devices (iplayer/ITV Player/Demand 5 etc.) so would be counted by them.”

Also helpful for watching more shows in a smaller amount of time, or maybe I just watch too much TV...
Fudd
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by Philip Wilson:
“Also helpful for watching more shows in a smaller amount of time, or maybe I just watch too much TV... ”

Yes, that as well...
dan2008
10-11-2014
Nice to see Strictly still giving the X factor a good kicking it deserves. To add more doom and gloom to big headed Cowell with Band aid 30 there's no chance in a number 1 single.

I like ITV's ''Keep it in the family'' it's pretty fun and Bradley Walsh is not a bad host.
H of De Vil
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“Nice to see Strictly still giving the X factor a good kicking it deserves. To add more doom and gloom to big headed Cowell with Band aid 30 there's no chance in a number 1 single.

I like ITV's ''Keep it in the family'' it's pretty fun and Bradley Walsh is not a bad host.”

While your here Dan, I just wanted to ask what you think of EastEnders at present and how it is performing ratings wise?

Is the quality still high or has it dropped off from the start of the year?
Fudd
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“I like ITV's ''Keep it in the family'' it's pretty fun and Bradley Walsh is not a bad host.”

I do too - do you think it'd work away from Strictly? It's nice to see it bounce back slightly last night but obviously being away from Strictly for an additional 25 minutes helped.
ftv
10-11-2014
The final episode of Love Hate on RTE1 last night had an overnight of 1,005,400 and a 56% share - RTE News
cylon6
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by ftv:
“The final episode of Love Hate on RTE1 last night had an overnight of 1,005,400 and a 56% share - RTE News”

How many series did they make? Any ratings for The Fall on RTE?
Philip Wilson
10-11-2014
Homeland renewed for 5th season by Showtime, its a much better show this season and despite a drop in viewers it has remained consistent.

Also more surprisingly The Affair is also back for a 2nd season: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...owtime/325725/
northlad
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“I do too - do you think it'd work away from Strictly? It's nice to see it bounce back slightly last night but obviously being away from Strictly for an additional 25 minutes helped.”

Agree,think this could turn into a bit of a hit,Bradley Walsh is genuinely funny and in general most bits of it work. They should try next series away from SCD.
Steve Williams
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Don't you continually defend The One Show and year-round Holby City on the grounds that they are cost-effective? Yet you want the BBC to go to the unnecessary expense of producing a new compilation of The Two Ronnies for filler opposite Coronation Street when they have these Sketchbook compilations that they can just pick off the shelf.”

I defend The One Show and Holby City for other reasons as well, because as well as being cheap they're also doing other things in terms of PSB and independent productions and so on. You don't get that from showing The Two Ronnies Sketchbook for the trillionth time. The fact Ronnie B has been dead so long illustrates how old they are. They'd be better off repeating Only Fools and Horses there. They've just done a load more Morecambe and Wise compilations and they had plenty of those on the shelf too.

Originally Posted by burbe:
“No. They've messed up the ratings on BARB and it's ended up with the last 5-10 mins being split into a separate entry rating 8.66m.”

I note the ratings in Broadcast also have two ratings for Thursday's Autumnwatch when it fell off the air, 1.89 million at 8pm and 1.60 million for 8.40. Seemingly Coast didn't count.

Originally Posted by omnidirectional:
“To be fair, the EMAs don't really work for MTV's own audience either as the ratings have been very poor in recent years. It must rate well in other parts of Europe otherwise I don't know why they still bother.”

I think it was a daft thing to show at 9pm, when ITV had the rights at the turn of the century it would be at 10.30 at the earliest, and that was a period when pop was much more prominent on primetime TV with Top of the Pops and so on and younger audiences would watch this kind of thing on a terrestrial channel. They'd have been better off doing what ITV did with the MOBOs the other week and shown them at 9pm on 5* and then repeated later on C5 itself.

Was a bit like showing the Smash Hits Poll Winners' Party in primetime.
Rob1985
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by Philip Wilson:
“Homeland renewed for 5th season by Showtime, its a much better show this season and despite a drop in viewers it has remained consistent.”

Really? I've taken it off series link and I turned off half way through last night's episode as it was truly terrible. I LOVED the first 4 seasons.
dan2008
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“While your here Dan, I just wanted to ask what you think of EastEnders at present and how it is performing ratings wise?

Is the quality still high or has it dropped off from the start of the year?”

It's alright but nothing special. I thought September and the start of October were great but then it seemed to really die down.
At present I think it's far too inconsistent but I know they have loads of great things coming up and it's looking to be one of their best Xmas with everyone having a storyline and lots going to ahead.

I think What EastEnders needs now is a massive shock (Something like a death of a character we wouldn't expect) leading into some other big storylines and hook people just in time for Christmas. I also think the BBC need to promote it some more.
The Halloween storyline had a trailer but not once did I see it on TV.

I am pretty certain EastEnders will see a rise in time for the festive season and into the 30th. I have a feeling xmas will top last year and possibly reach about 9million while the 30th week will surprise everyone ratings wise.

Originally Posted by Fudd:
“I do too - do you think it'd work away from Strictly? It's nice to see it bounce back slightly last night but obviously being away from Strictly for an additional 25 minutes helped.”

I think so. I think ITV should air it 8:30pm on a Friday tbh. Bump 8:30 Corrie and then have a CS on a Sunday if a 5th episode is a must.

Friday at 8:30 it's not caught up with Strictly and the like plus it kicks off the weekend on ITV just before viewers switch back over to BBC1 for Sat & Sun
Pizzatheaction
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“DA xmas special will air in xmas day as long as it's made because what else does itv have that can dent BBC 1 and still get 6-7m overnight and 10m+ consolidated over 2 hours?

Even if it got 5m (8m con) it would still air there”

I think there's an element of not wanting to slap Fellowes in the face, too, which is what they would be doing if they moved it.
C14E
10-11-2014
Good night for the ITV digital channels, Xtra Factor up a lot no doubt due to the higher rating for the main show from 8.30pm to 9pm and the shock result. And fantastic for TOWIE - I thought the move could have gone horribly wrong but it looks like ITVBe is performing well. To be beating BBC2, Channel 4 and Channel 5 isn't bad for such a new channel.

Very close peaks for XF and Strictly but a large gap still on the averages, both suffering with the clash. Keep It In The Family bounced back a bit too.

1900 - 3.1m
1915 - 3.2m
1930 - 3.5m
1945 - 3.8m

2000 - 6.2m
2015 - 6.8m
2030 - 7.8m
2045 - 9.1m

First half hour of X Factor was down nearly 1m week on week but the last 15 minutes was up 600k. Keep It in The Family was up ~620k week on week for the 45 minutes against Countryfile and up ~580k for the 15 minutes against Strictly.
yorkie100
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“First world problems. Watching 12 mins of commercials per broadcast hour = "torture." ”

Meeoooww !

On a 2 hour drama of course thats ads taking almost 25% of the run time which I can use to watch another program.
US programs are generally 42mins so with them thats getting on for 30% of the run time.
I would rather watch programs than ads.
Pizzatheaction
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by morph1970:
“Does anyone know why it's been split into two separate programmes? Was it broadcast that way?”

Yes, with a weather forecast between the two sections, but that hasn't been reflected in the BBC One Top 30 before. Presumably the forecast was too short to rate.
hyperstarsponge
10-11-2014
Channel 5 will be better off sticking a film on then the EMAs.
Charnham
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“Channel 5 will be better off sticking a film on then the EMAs.”

whilst I was cycnail about the EMA airing on C5 when it was first annouced, I get why C5/Viacome tried it, but obviously it hasnt work.

The question is, does that mean C5 viewers have no interest in music, or music award shows, was the line up to blame, did it favour the tweenager acts, the kind of acts that peope over 20 have never heard of.

Its funny those young acts with young fans, are engaged with their auidence like never before, thanks to soical media, yet they could not get their fans to watch the EMAs. Maybe the problem was that the EMAs was not a series of You Tube video and vines which can be shared and posted on a bands facebook page, or Twitter feed.
Pizzatheaction
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“I defend The One Show and Holby City for other reasons as well, because as well as being cheap they're also doing other things in terms of PSB and independent productions and so on. You don't get that from showing The Two Ronnies Sketchbook for the trillionth time. The fact Ronnie B has been dead so long illustrates how old they are. They'd be better off repeating Only Fools and Horses there. They've just done a load more Morecambe and Wise compilations and they had plenty of those on the shelf too.”

It's always baffled me why it's never had a full repeat run. I think one edition has never been repeated in full, and I don't think all six editions in the main series have been repeated as cutdowns. Yet, some of the editions have been shown several times in both formats.

Would it have been all that difficult to repeat all six editions in full, over six weeks, at some point in the last nine years?
H of De Vil
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“It's alright but nothing special. I thought September and the start of October were great but then it seemed to really die down.
At present I think it's far too inconsistent but I know they have loads of great things coming up and it's looking to be one of their best Xmas with everyone having a storyline and lots going to ahead.

I think What EastEnders needs now is a massive shock (Something like a death of a character we wouldn't expect) leading into some other big storylines and hook people just in time for Christmas. I also think the BBC need to promote it some more.
The Halloween storyline had a trailer but not once did I see it on TV.

I am pretty certain EastEnders will see a rise in time for the festive season and into the 30th. I have a feeling xmas will top last year and possibly reach about 9million while the 30th week will surprise everyone ratings wise.

I think so. I think ITV should air it 8:30pm on a Friday tbh. Bump 8:30 Corrie and then have a CS on a Sunday if a 5th episode is a must.

Friday at 8:30 it's not caught up with Strictly and the like plus it kicks off the weekend on ITV just before viewers switch back over to BBC1 for Sat & Sun ”


Thanks Dan for your response. If they want to reach 9m for Xmas Day then they are going to have to work hard and pull something pretty big out the bag. At the moment its still down YOY, so an uphill struggle looks to be on the cards.
grondagronda
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by northlad:
“Agree,think this could turn into a bit of a hit,Bradley Walsh is genuinely funny and in general most bits of it work. They should try next series away from SCD.”

Could Keep it in the Family become a hit? I'm not so sure. Of its type it's OK, but it's hardly a must watch. Fairly amusing, but nothing amazing. Reminds me of that ant and Dec family show. Just a bit meh. But I can see it coming back for a second run. God knows they need something to fill their schedules.
NeilVW
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“I note the ratings in Broadcast also have two ratings for Thursday's Autumnwatch when it fell off the air, 1.89 million at 8pm and 1.60 million for 8.40. Seemingly Coast didn't count.”

This was also reflected in the officials:

10 AUTUMNWATCH (THU 2000) 2.07
19 AUTUMNWATCH (THU 2043) 1.66

Less timeshift for the later segment, presumably due to PVR viewers giving up when Coast came on.

Coast did count as a programme for BARB as it was over the 3-minute qualifying threshold (actually about 9 minutes, from 20:33:30). It just didn't rate highly enough to make the official top 30 for BBC Two (so <0.98m) or the top 30 overnights on BBC Two/Channel 4/Channel 5 (<1.49m).
NeilVW
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Yes, with a weather forecast between the two sections, but that hasn't been reflected in the BBC One Top 30 before. Presumably the forecast was too short to rate.”

Spot on - here were the timings:

BBC One Sun 02/11/2014 18:17:58 (51 mins) COUNTRYFILE
BBC One Sun 02/11/2014 19:08:51 (3 mins) WEATHER FOR THE WEEK AHEAD
BBC One Sun 02/11/2014 19:12:21 (5 mins) COUNTRYFILE
BBC One Sun 02/11/2014 19:19:17 (40 mins) STRICTLY COME DANCING: THE RESULTS

Previous airings, as you say, must have been under 3 minutes long.
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