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To be fair wizzy, it is her job... chill your beans!
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Yes, but usually alongside the overnight. For instance "Programme A had 8.2m viewers last night, peaking at 9.1m, the highest rated programme of the night".
Just quoting the peak is indication that perhaps ratings were not as good as expected. ![]() Quote:
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Last night's @TheXFactor drew a peak audience of 6.7 million viewers. #JudgesHouses continues tonight on @ITV. |
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A couple of trailers I've seen today.
Not Going Out, Lee and Daisy on Pointless. ![]() , on BBC1.Gotham, '7 days to go', on Channel 5. As you were, back to XT/DA.
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Yes, pretty concise summary there Dancc. I agree that ITV will be more concerned about TXF than they are with DA. But, let's not forget that DA is also losing momentum in the USA where new, more relevant shows are being recognised. Sherlock for instance was the big British show that the Americans recognised at the Emmys. It's a very fickle environment in America, moreso than here. Once the USA audience for DA falls away then the show will "have reached its natural conclusion". (Executive speak for axing a drama!).
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Gotham, '7 days to go', on Channel 5.
Here's the Australian promo, where it launches the night before the UK on Channel Nine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P8fq11PiwM |
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Chill my beans? I think I love that expression. I'm nicking it off you James!
![]() Any figures for the dramatic Countryfile last night in which Adam did his impression of Jeremy Clarkson and a vehicle caught fire & exploded setting a field of wheat on fire.Top Gear producers probably fuming they didn't think of that first. |
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Yes, pretty concise summary there Dancc. I agree that ITV will be more concerned about TXF than they are with DA. But, let's not forget that DA is also losing momentum in the USA where new, more relevant shows are being recognised. Sherlock for instance was the big British show that the Americans recognised at the Emmys. It's a very fickle environment in America, moreso than here. Once the USA audience for DA falls away then the show will "have reached its natural conclusion". (Executive speak for axing a drama!).
The drop for Downton this year in the UK has been surprising, sudden and severe. I thought last week that The Ryder Cup took some viewers but this week it's even lower. An even bigger shock than what's happened with New Tricks. |
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Does it mean Simon Cowell's a has bean?
Any figures for the dramatic Countryfile last night in which Adam did his impression of Jeremy Clarkson and a vehicle caught fire & exploded setting a field of wheat on fire.Top Gear producers probably fuming they didn't think of that first. ![]()
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Downton Abbey is still a worldwide hit and the biggest UK drama in America. Its last series was getting 8m+ and is the most watched drama in the history of PBS. When it moved into the Drama Series categories over there I knew it was screwed. No way it was better than Breaking Bad or House Of Cards or Game Of Thrones. Jim Carter as Best Supporting Actor? Over Peter Dinklage in Game Of Course and Aaron Paul in Breaking Bad. Michelle Dockery up for Lead Actress? Farcical. Had they stayed in the miniseries category thru would have had more wins, although they do have around 11 Emmys. Sherlock finally got some long overdue Emmy recognition but it's ratings on PBS are still lower than Downton's.
The drop for Downton this year in the UK has been surprising, sudden and severe. I thought last week that The Ryder Cup took some viewers but this week it's even lower. An even bigger shock than what's happened with New Tricks. |
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TNT finally cancels Dallas:
http://www.c21media.net/tnt-drops-dallas-reboot/ Hadn't realised it had fallen as low as 1.9M in Total People over there. |
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I'm not disputing the success of DA in the USA nor its ratings, but moreso just highlighting how quick shows in America fall out of favour. I daresay DA will continue doing well this year but without recognition at awards ceremonies and as the US broadcasters move on to other things, the longevity of DA's success will be shortened. Sherlock is less appealing to the Americans overall because it is quirky, the Americans don't necessarily 'get' British quirkyness.
In the UK, where we are starved of genuinely good drama something like Sherlock can be heralded as a masterpiece, but that's compared to what exactly? Ripper Street, Whitechapel or fluff like Downton/Call the midwife. |
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What has happened to Downton Abbey? What is going on? The Christmas special is going to be toast in the ratings.
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I think as others have said ITV expected XF with the returnees to be well up and they did not care too much about clashes as the thought there would be no problem. That has not worked out yet but I am sure they could move the start time if they wanted - I am sure they have done it in the past.
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I always find it odd that more people watch the Sunday X Factor than the Saturday one, why would you care who went out if you hadn't seen them perform?
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Downton Abbey is still a worldwide hit and the biggest UK drama in America. Its last series was getting 8m+ and is the most watched drama in the history of PBS. When it moved into the Drama Series categories over there I knew it was screwed. No way it was better than Breaking Bad or House Of Cards or Game Of Thrones. Jim Carter as Best Supporting Actor? Over Peter Dinklage in Game Of Course and Aaron Paul in Breaking Bad. Michelle Dockery up for Lead Actress? Farcical. Had they stayed in the miniseries category thru would have had more wins, although they do have around 11 Emmys. Sherlock finally got some long overdue Emmy recognition but it's ratings on PBS are still lower than Downton's.
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Sherlock is nowhere near as good as the best US drama's.
In the UK, where we are starved of genuinely good drama something like Sherlock can be heralded as a masterpiece, but that's compared to what exactly? Ripper Street, Whitechapel or fluff like Downton/Call the midwife. |
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A couple of trailers I've seen today.
Not Going Out, Lee and Daisy on Pointless. ![]() , on BBC1. |
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Sherlock is nowhere near as good as the best US drama's.
In the UK, where we are starved of genuinely good drama something like Sherlock can be heralded as a masterpiece, but that's compared to what exactly? Ripper Street, Whitechapel or fluff like Downton/Call the midwife. There's no need for US and UK dramas to be the same.. |
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I'm not disputing the success of DA in the USA nor its ratings, but moreso just highlighting how quick shows in America fall out of favour. I daresay DA will continue doing well this year but without recognition at awards ceremonies and as the US broadcasters move on to other things, the longevity of DA's success will be shortened. Sherlock is less appealing to the Americans overall because it is quirky, the Americans don't necessarily 'get' British quirkyness.
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Sherlock is nowhere near as good as the best US drama's.
Although Sherlock doesn't actually compete with drama series anyway. They producers pick the strongest episode and enter it as a television movie instead and on that front is easily far superior to its competitors bar the odd HBO effort. |
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The X Factor watched by 8.5 million on ITV, Strictly 8.8m on BBC One
The X Factor was watched by nearly 8.5 million on ITV last night (October 5), according to overnight figures. Simon Cowell's singing contest appealed to 8.49m (33.9%) in the 8pm hour, with a further 314k (1.3%) tuning in on +1. Elsewhere, Sunday Night at the Palladium drew 3.07m (13.9%) from 7pm, and Downton Abbey was enjoyed by 7.47m (31.5%) from 9pm (+1: 344k/2.1%). On BBC One, the first Strictly Come Dancing results show attracted 8.84m (38.3%) between 7.20pm and 8pm. Afterwards, Antiques Roadshow and Lacey Turner's Our Girl nabbed 5.41m (21.6%) and 3.64m (15.2%) respectively. BBC Two's Wonders of the Monsoon began with 1.86m (7.4%) from 8pm. It was followed by Sacred Rivers with Simon Reeve with 1.89m (7.9%). On Channel 4, Operation Maneater concluded with 599k (2.4%) in the 8pm hour. An airing of George Clooney's The Descendants earned 1.38m (7%) from 9pm. Channel 5 showed Welcome to the Jungle, which was seen by 672k (2.7%) from 8.05pm. On the multichannels, Family Guy averaged 1.09m (5.7%) with its 10pm episode on BBC Three, and The Xtra Factor continued with 562k (2.4%) from 9pm on ITV2. |
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Always knew Downright Shabby would finally lose momentum this year. Did warn its fans months ago.
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Another impressive showing for Family Guy last night. Do we know what happens to it when/if BBC3 disappears? If the BBC aren't keeping it then that's going to spark a huge bidding war I'd have thought.
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Another impressive showing for Family Guy last night. Do we know what happens to it when/if BBC3 disappears? If the BBC aren't keeping it then that's going to spark a huge bidding war I'd have thought.
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Elsewhere, Sunday Night at the Palladium drew 3.07m (13.9%) from 7pm
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Sanity has been restored to the British public and they're finally realising its overhyped parp? I'm not a fan. In all seriousness though while its certainly an eyebrow raising number I'm not sure its a panic inducing one just yet. The trend certainly isn't looking good for Downton though. To me the biggest concern here would be that this is what its doing with effectively no competition on BBC1 or at least very limited competition. Unless of course Our Girl has shot up this week thanks to a Strictly boosted Sunday line-up on BBC1 but that seems unlikely. What happens if the BBC actually decided to aggressively schedule against Downton? I've said recently they've been right to try and avoid it but that seems to be changing now.
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I keep hearing this ITV expected the show to be all conquering rationale but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. ITV have been seeing the same numbers as everyone else and its been obvious before the last couple of weekends that The X Factor isn't back where it was a few years ago or even close to that.
The talk from people connected to the show was that they felt ratings would be much higher with the return of Simon and Cheryl. Whereas as others said it wouldn't make that much difference.Quote:
The Sunday show includes a nice 2 minute recap of the Saturday show which is for many people I imagine the preferable way to watch the performance show.
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Downton wasn't allowed to stay in the mini-series category because it isn't one. Technically it shouldn't have been allowed to enter in that category for its first series either. That it continues to pick-up nominations though is a staggering insight into how utterly stagnant EMMY nominations are. That it was nominated for Drama Series last year over the likes of The Good Wife is the height of insanity.
I'm sure Downton was allowed to stay in the miniseries category as it only has around 8 episodes. American Horror Story has 13 and goes in the miniseries category rather than series category to get Emmy noms. There is a lot of fiddling the system to get Emmy noms. Downton is all right but hasn't been Emmy worthy for several series. How it was nominated for Best Drama ahead of The Good Wife and Dockery for Best Actress ahead of the magnificent Tatiana Maslany for Orphan Black is beyond me!
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Anyone know when BBC1+1 is due to launch?
Getting a bit sick of DS's headlines ignoring +1. |
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Children in Need production is to move from London to Salford next year - BBC Ariel
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The latest on that was that BBC2 were looking at airing the episodes as FOX were unhappy about it being shown online. Not sure how it was progressing though.
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The talk from people connected to the show was that they felt ratings would be much higher with the return of Simon and Cheryl. Whereas as others said it wouldn't make that much difference.
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I'm sure Downton was allowed to stay in the miniseries category as it only has around 8 episodes. American Horror Story has 13 and goes in the miniseries category rather than series category to get Emmy noms. There is a lot of fiddling the system to get Emmy noms. Downton is all right but hasn't been Emmy worthy for several series. How it was nominated for Best Drama ahead of The Good Wife and Dockery for Best Actress ahead of the magnificent Tatiana Maslany for Orphan Black is beyond me!
Episode count isn't how it works. Downton Abbey is a returning series and as such doesn't qualify for the mini-series category and technically never did since it was always a returning series. I'm of the mind that American Horror Story doesn't qualify for the mini-series category either but FX and Ryan Murphy have somehow convinced EMMY voters (and others) that it does. And by somehow I mean they spent a lot of money. Their argument is that while the show may be a returning series because it doesn't have continuing plot threads or returning characters its in essence a different series every year and therefore should qualify as a mini-series. The same rationale has been used for Fargo and was expected to be used by HBO for True Detective but they opted to make the right call and enter what is clearly a drama series in the drama series category. FX won't do that with Horror Story because they know its not strong enough to compete in that field. This whole thing is one of the many 'quirks' among award nominations that slightly annoy me. Not as much as the habit of entering leads as supporting because they stand a better chance of getting nominated or winning though.
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