You don't say. In any case you wouldn't have to, ITV+1 is the obvious answer, so you can see both.

My wife has just started watching the second series (one a day over lunch). It's been on the Sky box for nearly a year!!

I see little point in throwing out an un advertised Panorama tonight. If they are going to do that with a high profile investigative report, they could just cut out the middle man and not bother making it in the first place, it'll get the same result.

I know you're implying that I'd choose it simply because it's on BBC, but not everything is about the channel it's on you know, Last Tango in Halifax is actually one of my favourite dramas on tv so I'd choose it over pretty much anything. I, of course, meant choose to watch it live, I'd record Broadchurch and watch it over the week. Doesn't matter anyway as they won't air against each other.

I'm only kidding

Last Tango is indeed a superb drama. I do see tat the BBC lead the way in top quality drama. I think it more to do with they attract more writers, being that adverts must be a bugger to work around.

The Musketeers I think will be on Monday next year going against the latter episodes of BC.

If they left it another day, however, it could have resulted in another injunction, and so on and so forth. This was one where they had to get it on air as soon as possible.

The Musketeers is going to have a major problem to turn around its fortunes and whether it can do it is going to be fascinating.

Is that official or just speculation?

Series 1 was aimed at an 8pm audience ( despite going out at 9pm ) whereas S2 is aimed firmly at the 9pm audience and will be different - "less jokey" for a start

As long as those who gave up on it during S1 give it another go - plus the 5 million fans who stuck with it - S2 will probably be a greater success.

I'm interested in how Atlantis 2 does, also getting a darker tone for S2.

Just to make the point clear though the ratings are not just lower because the numbers watching in the opt out country are not included in the final rating but that the timeshifts which should only be minimally affected are usually 0.5-1m lower than expected for no logical reason.

Yes both are going to be interesting - have to say the trailer for Atlantis didnt scream different tone to me though.

I get the feeling this may be the last year where the soaps have dominance over xmas day, usually we're subjected to 3 hrs worth over the 2 channels but i doubt any of the 3 will rate beyond 7-8 million whilst the BBC comedies will probably get 10m+

The extended trailer makes it look a bit better - http://youtu.be/U2geI9Caxn8 - but there's still nothing there to draw me back in.

As you say it does look a bit better and I stuck with most of it last year so will at least start it this year - but will anyone else?

Still not convinced any channel is ready to give up on the soaps yet so I fear they will be around on Xmas day for a good while yet.

Like The Village they'll forget the poor 1st series and probably return to watching it. Its still got a Strictly lead in and a weaker XF against it. Not exactly too much of a challenge

But The Village was well down yoy wasnt it? Not something Atlantis can afford.

I loved Dalziel and Pascoe, too.

Poor Warren.

Good point about EE. I've just learnt to ignor the stuff about EE ratings on here as it's always the same stuff when it's not great, and then nothing is said when it does well.

If the Tuesday schedule stays as it is, it'll be a rare case of ITV's scheduling department doing what's best for ITV, rather than trying to find what's best for knocking BBC One.

Is Bergg on holiday?

That shows how desperate they are for anything approaching a hit in their afternoon schedule, despite any public noises they night have been making about how the 12.30-4pm block has been going.

There are no guarantees it will do well when it isn't in a school holiday slot. It will also have tougher competition than third screenings of Perfection. Father Brown is back on 5th January.

They should have called it Sheikh it Off.

The Village was down on last year and never matched the series 1 highs. That might happen with Atlantis. The series might have improved but looks like more of the same from the trailer. I think it's doubtful it will get close to Doctor Who's overnights.

Also the timeshifts for that region aren't included so depress the final number. That's my explanation anyway.

Pizza do you know where the other posts are for the second link? When I click on it nothing is shown.