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The Ratings Thread (Part 62)
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jake lyle
24-11-2014
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
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Give it the best shot as rating well where BBC1 will have lottery/Casualty as competition. We know TXF is dying, but while it still has 8m viewers willing too watch use it to launch an new drama.”

It isn't even getting 8m against bloody Atlantis. Next year with no Atlantis, against Strictly and the usual yearly decline it will be lucky to be get 6.5m in your fantasy schedule.
Jekyll will start well and decline just like The Musketeers, Demons, Primeval, Robin Hood and Atlantis. It's only chance is to skew old like Merlin
Dancc
24-11-2014
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I’m a celeb doesn’t need to “bounce back” next year as last year was exceptionally high and isn’t the benchmark.

As an example, say a show was getting 8, 8, 8, 10, 9. Is that example show in crisis because it has lost a million year on year. Far too much importance is given to just looking at one figure versus another figure.”

Last night's episode was also down 700,000 on the equivalent episode in 2012 and at least 400,000 on the equivalent episode in 2011.

More data needed certainly - but I don't accept your argument at all that 9.33m is a normal figure for the show on a miserable Sunday night in November.

It was IAC's worst performance for that Sunday since 2009. Fact not spin.
wizzywick
24-11-2014
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“It isn't even getting 8m against bloody Atlantis. Next year with no Atlantis, against Strictly and the usual yearly decline it will be lucky to be get 6.5m in your fantasy schedule.
Jekyll will start well and decline just like The Musketeers, Demons, Primeval, Robin Hood and Atlantis. It's only chance is to skew old like Merlin”

If Colin Morgan plays Jekyll then it'll work. Merlin worked because of Morgan and Bradley James. Get the casting right, that's the crucial thing. Charlie Higson is usually pretty good in that department.
ChrisE
24-11-2014
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Fair enough, but I think given Time Haines (Walking With Dinosaurs, Primeval) experience in this field I have faith. It again being set in medieval England, allows for possibility of a hole range of monsters and mythical beings. Very much a darker version of Merlin.”

Don't mention the 'M' word.
jake lyle
24-11-2014
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Fair enough, but I think given Time Haines (Walking With Dinosaurs, Primeval) experience in this field I have faith. It again being set in medieval England, allows for possibility of a hole range of monsters and mythical beings. Very much a darker version of Merlin.”

That is never going to work with an ITV audience and are we pretending that Primeval was a hit? Held up by Dancing on Ice for 2 years and then performed so poorly in its third year that it boosted the awful Barrowman "Tonight's the night" show on BBC One.
H of De Vil
24-11-2014
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“It isn't even getting 8m against bloody Atlantis. Next year with no Atlantis, against Strictly and the usual yearly decline it will be lucky to be get 6.5m in your fantasy schedule.
Jekyll will start well and decline just like The Musketeers, Demons, Primeval, Robin Hood and Atlantis. It's only chance is to skew old like Merlin”

Yes it is. You've got adverts in there depressing the average.

You are consistently aggressive in your tone of posts, and way to defensive of the BBC. Perhaps we should all walk on eggs shells around you, so we aren't been spoken to in a rude manner.
wizzywick
24-11-2014
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Last night's episode was also down 700,000 on the equivalent episode in 2012 and at least 400,000 on the equivalent episode in 2011.

More data needed certainly - but I don't accept your argument at all that 9.33m is a normal figure for the show on a miserable Sunday night in November.

It was IAC's worst performance for that Sunday since 2009. Fact not spin.”

Commendably, Andy's glass is always half full, never half empty.
grondagronda
24-11-2014
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“X Factor has faced Antiques Roadshow for years. It hasn't suddenly become competition for it. Strictly has competition but beats it, sometimes competition isn't allowed to be competition based on the strength of another show.”

Precisely. SCD has faced competition every year - last year the hugely expensive spoiler Stepping Out, and this year the still-expensive Bradley Walsh ent vehicle Keep it in the Family.

Big money, potentially big competition seen off by the old war horse....
northlad
24-11-2014
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Yes it is. You've got adverts in there depressing the average.

You are consistently aggressive in your tone of posts, and way to defensive of the BBC. Perhaps we should all walk on eggs shells around you, so we aren't been spoken to in a rude manner.”

He is consistently the most aggressive person on this thread.
H of De Vil
24-11-2014
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“X Factor has faced Antiques Roadshow for years. It hasn't suddenly become competition for it. Strictly has competition but beats it, sometimes competition isn't allowed to be competition based on the strength of another show.”

And the programmes ITV put against SCD appeal to a similar audience, therefore rate lower as many watch Strictly.

Antiques Roadshow appeals to the older generation, a complete opposite to TXF. I guarantee though something like Takeaway against SCD would knock it down a peg or two.

I agree though that even if the competition weakened for TXF at 8pm its unlikely to increase its viewers. Those viewers have left and are never coming back.
cylon6
24-11-2014
Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“And there lies the reason for its drop. BBC one held a strong audience 10% more of the audience at 9pm than last November.”

Sometimes channels can be more competitive against big shows, they won't win but can increase their audience share. By The Sea was BBC1 just shutting down. I'd rather a drama/entertainment alternative than a documentary.

Remember Me reminds me of 2012 when BBC1 put on The Secret Of Crickley Hall. An entertaining alternative to I'm A Celebrity..... the only difference is Remember Me is scarier!
RobbieSykes123
24-11-2014
Slightly disappointed with Remember Me - both the content and the rating. It was pretty bleak and miserable, yet too silly to be either plausible or scary. Palin seemed an odd choice for the part he played (although he did, as with everything he does, do it incredibly well), and there was the usual BBC drama problem of bad lighting and poor sound.

This was supposedly one of the years highlights, so a 5.3m overnight even against IAC is slightly anaemic. I suspect it may have started a bit higher then drifted. Hard to think this will sustain 5m+ overnights and consolidated figures c. 6.5-7m.
RobbieSykes123
24-11-2014
Excellent F1 figures. Wish they'd finish the season in Brazil though so we could get 10m+ peaks.

At last we have one SPOTY contender who has actually won something this year...
Mr_Eye
24-11-2014
The most defensive poster on the thread criticising someone else for being defensive. Hilarious.

Anyway, pretty good for Strictly and IAC. IAC has just fallen from astronomical levels to high levels. And although I'm not a fan it clearly has a pretty loyal audience.

Nothing much to say for X Factor now, at least it stopped dropping.
Dancc
24-11-2014
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Slightly disappointed with Remember Me - both the content and the rating. It was pretty bleak and miserable, yet too silly to be either plausible or scary. Palin seemed an odd choice for the part he played (although he did, as with everything he does, do it incredibly well), and there was the usual BBC drama problem of bad lighting and poor sound.

This was supposedly one of the years highlights, so a 5.3m overnight even against IAC is slightly anaemic. I suspect it may have started a bit higher then drifted. Hard to think this will sustain 5m+ overnights and consolidated figures c. 6.5-7m.”

It was a bit slow and in parts clichéd (the rocking chair, e.g.), but still enjoyable enough and intriguing enough for us to return to it next week.

The young lead actress was good and it was sufficiently scary.
seansnotmyname@
24-11-2014
It's only poor anecdotal stuff from me, but I stopped watching this years IAC, after enjoying it for the first few days. The CIA stuff is just sub-BB, and concentrating on the Playboy-skank, and the x-factor reject just doesn't do it for me personally.
Dancc
24-11-2014
Weekend's football:

Arsenal v Manchester United (Saturday 5:30 K/O): 1.51m / 7.6%
Crystal Palace v Liverpool (Sunday 1:30 K/O): 0.81m / 5.9%
Hull v Tottenham (Sunday 4:00 K/O): 1.13m / 7.0%

The F1 must have dented the Liverpool game. Even the way we're playing at the moment I can't imagine that Sky Sports viewers considered us a worse watch than Hull v Spurs.

More multichannel ratings via ITV Media: http://www.itvmedia.co.uk/highlights/ratings
H of De Vil
24-11-2014
Originally Posted by Mr_Eye:
“The most defensive poster on the thread criticising someone else for being defensive. Hilarious.

Anyway, pretty good for Strictly and IAC. IAC has just fallen from astronomical levels to high levels. And although I'm not a fan it clearly has a pretty loyal audience.

Nothing much to say for X Factor now, at least it stopped dropping.”


Sweeping statements again. If you actually look at my posts you might see that is quite untrue.
Dancc
24-11-2014
Digital Spy has updated with more of yesterday's ratings:

BBC Two
19:00 Secrets of the Castle: 1.52m
20:00 Sue Perkins's Mekong River: 2.30m
21:00 World's Greatest Food Markets: 1.19m

Channel 4
20:00 Woolly Mammoth Autopsy: 1.59m
21:00 Homeland: 1.23m
22:00 Sarah Millican: 0.85m

Channel 5
19:15 Hancock: 1.12m (exc. +1)
21:00 The Green Hornet: 0.83m

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...on-sunday.html
Mr_Eye
24-11-2014
Sue Perkins' show is great, I'm glad its performing well. I hope she gets to do more travel shows.
grondagronda
24-11-2014
And a few more:

ITV:
KITF: 2.78m / 157k

BBC1:
Countryfile: 6.51m
Antiques Roadshow: 5.58m

ITV2:
Xtra Factor: 220K
IAC: Now: 712K
H of De Vil
24-11-2014
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Digital Spy has updated with more of yesterday's ratings:

BBC Two
19:00 Secrets of the Castle: 1.52m
20:00 Sue Perkins's Mekong River: 2.30m
21:00 World's Greatest Food Markets: 1.19m

Channel 4
20:00 Woolly Mammoth Autopsy: 1.59m
21:00 Homeland: 1.23m
22:00 Sarah Millican: 0.85m

Channel 5
19:15 Hancock: 1.12m (exc. +1)
21:00 The Green Hornet: 0.83m

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...on-sunday.html”

The Woolly Mammth doc last night was very interesting.
Dancc
24-11-2014
Is Xtra Factor really worth bothering with at this point? Last night ITV2 could have aired a film repeat between 8pm and 10pm and doubled their ratings minimum. And even on a good day i.e. away from IAC it's hardly been firing on all cylinders.

There might be a case for keeping it along the lines of increasing viewer engagement but perhaps these days its future lies online.
hyperstarsponge
24-11-2014
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“UK TV Ratings ‏@TVRatingsUK 26s27 seconds ago
New @BBCOne drama #RememberMe made a good start against #ImACelebrity with 5.28m/21.0% tuning in from 9pm.

Very impressive.”

It is just proof that people are getting fed up of reality shows and want more Quality TV to watch.
Dancc
24-11-2014
Australia: ABC confirms redundancies and cancellations following federal government budget cuts:

http://www.c21media.net/abc-confirms...rogramme-cuts/
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