Our Girl not getting a boost is a shame but it understandably suffers from not sharing the same audience as the rest of the schedule due to the BBC trying to skew younger against Downton.

I wonder if The Game will do any better, which I think will be Our Girl's replacement, it's more likely to appeal to the Strictly/Antiques Roadshow audience which should help it but that does mean there'll be more crossover with Downton, although that doesn't look as unbeatable as it once did.

Especially BBC Two after Newsnight !

Could it even end up rating worse there? Sounds daft and goes against everything we know about channel reach/share and impact on transported content; but also sounds vaguely possible in this case.

Not sure the average BBC Two viewer has time for a show like FG.

Couple of quickies on my fag break:

As I understand it, ITV don't get any money out of international sales of Downton, but happy to be corrected

BBC One +1 starts autumn 2015 if Trust approves it and the associated closure of Three as a linear channel

Nickelodeon Retail Store to Open in London:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...-london-738253

I wouldn't say that's wholly accurate - while a few viewers catch up on results only I'd suggest many catch up on the Saturday show prior to the Sunday show being aired, whether it be via the ITV repeat, the ITV2 repeats, ITV Player. Especially with live episodes. Same, I would have thought albeit to a lesser extent, with Strictly.

I would have thought Family Guy would work better in a post news slot on BBC One than BBC Two though they couldn't air it daily there.

Still a massive drama way out in front of most others including most on BBC1 though isn't it?

If that makes it 'shabby', what does that make 95% of other dramas?

Usual ratings thread situation, writing off such big numbers just because it is down year on year forgetting the actual number.

If anyone's got a 5 or 15 minute breakdown of channel 4 last night between 7.30 and 9 I'd be enormously grateful.

Andrew

I like to watch the performance show on a Sunday daytime.

If we use single ratings up against major programmes rather than the whole series average then maybe?

A bit like judging Big Brother on a random Saturday episode?

Why should its fans give a flying f*** it's a bit down? the show is still broadcasting to well over 7 million viewers in the overnights and the world is still turning on its axis. And even if it falls further still it will highly likely be recommissioned. God, I'm sure all the Downton fans are so relieved you 'warned' them.

If I throw a ball in the air, can you please warn me it's going to fall back down?

I confess I'd be tempted to move it to BBC1 rather than BBC2. Although where exactly they'd put it on either channel is a bit of a mystery. New episodes would certainly be easy enough to schedule but the stripped repeats scheduling BBC3 has would have to go I'd assume.


That sounds right. However, if Carnival are still making money from international sales then the may very well be willing to drop the price tag for ITV or indeed take it to another broadcaster if ITV decide the investment isn't sustainable or worthwhile for them. We're still a long way off from that point though. But in general the decision to end Downton (or not) is incredibly unlikely to be ITV's.

A double bill of new Family Guy episodes straight after graham Norton on fridays would be a good line up - then straight into a late night horror movie!

BBC One
06:00 to 09:15 - F1: Japanese Grand Prix: 1.74m (37.1%)
* peak: 2.84m (33.6%) at 09:05
13:15 to 15:15 - F1: Japanese Grand Prix Re-Run: 2.24m (21.3%)
* peak: 2.80m (25.1%) at 14:15

Sky Sports F1
06:00 to 09:30 - Live Japanese Grand Prix: 494k (10.0%)
* peak: 776k (9.5%) at 08:50

Combined average - 4.48m
Combined peak - 6.35m

Except Surprise, Surprise performs much better there in a Strictly clash. Though that will probably be another show to return down year-on-year.

It's a shame about Sunday Night at the Palladium. It would have been nice to see that take off.

Please. It's in the heart of Sunday primetime and acts as a lead-in for one of ITV's biggest programmes. That is a piss poor performance and if it doesn't prove that result to be an outlier, it's done for.

It even did less than 100,000 at 8PM else DS would have reported it so whilst Strictly undoubtedly did the damage, it did not recover sufficiently either through VOSDAL or +1 timeshift.

ITV should put Corrie back on Sundays pronto if you ask me.

Palladium was always going to (relatively speaking) flop against the behemoth Strictly. It's been scheduled wrong.

But it isn't big numbers is it? It is currently lagging behind CtM this year (although what happens with that is anybody's guess), is just a million ahead of Happy Valley and Cilla has nearly reached the figure DA is getting now. It is natural to compare DA with its previous performances and naturally, when you do that, it is not doing very well at all. Only your over-protective, poor little puppy being kicked attitude prevents you from seeing that.

I see the Strictly Results Show effect has hit Countryfile

6.29m viewers (33% share) at 6:20pm is pretty good going...

It is not the format of the show that is the problem with X-Factor on a Saturday, it's the scheduling clash. Last night's results prove that both can rate really well if one follows the other or just has a five minute overlap, but nobody seems willing to be the one to move later.

Every successful single TV show in history has peaked and then eventually fallen.

For Downton to progressively rise over 4 years is an achievement.

For it to have done so well that first Christmas, is an achievement.

As I said to Samuel, if I throw a ball in the air, I expect gravity to bring it back down eventually

All human beings themselves build up, reach a peak of ability and performance, then slowly deteriorate and eventually die.

Everything has a shelf life.

Nothing rises forever.

I think Palladium could have worked better on Sundays in January. perhaps a Sunday night ITV line up like this:

6.30 Palladium
7.30 Coronation Street (take away Fridays second episode)
8.00 Jekyll and Hyde
9.00 Mr. Selfridge

Good schedule, I like a lot!

Hope you don't mind me putting the F1 ratings into this roundup DMN. I've given you a credit at the end

BBC 1
06:00 to 09:15: F1: Japanese Grand Prix - 1.74m (37.1%)
* peak - 2.84m (33.6%) at 09:05
13:15 to 15:15: F1: Japanese Grand Prix Re-Run - 2.24m (21.3%)
* peak - 2.80m (25.1%) at 14:15
17:55: BBC News - 4.39m (27.0%)
18:20: Countryfile - 6.29m (33.0%)
19:20: Strictly Come Dancing - 8.84m (38.3%)
20:00: Antiques Roadshow - 5.41m (21.6%)
21:00: Our Girl - 3.64m (15.2%)
22:00: BBC News - 4.42m (23.0%)

BBC 2
20:00: Wonders of the Monsoon - 1.86m (7.4%)
21:00: Sacred Rivers with Simon Reeve - 1.89m (7.9%)

ITV
19:00: Sunday Night at the Palladium - 3.07m (13.9%)
* +1 - 315k (1.1%)
20:00: The X Factor - 8.49m (33.9%)
* +1 - 314k (1.3%)
21:00: Downton Abbey - 7.47m (31.5%)
* +1 - 344k (2.1%)
22:05: ITV News - 2.94m (16.0%)

Channel 4
20:00: Operation Maneater - 0.599m (2.4%)
21:00: Film: The Descendants - 1.38m (7.0%)

Channel 5
20:05: Film: Welcome to the Jungle - 0.672m (2.7%)

ITV 2
21:00: The Xtra Factor - 0.562m (2.4%)
* +1 - 118k (0.4%)

ITV 3
17:20: Columbo - 0.513m (3.1%)

BBC 3
20:40: Film: Kung Fu Panda 2 - 0.575m (2.4%)
22:00: Family Guy - 1.09m (5.7%)
22:25: Family Guy - 0.735m (4.8%)

BBC News
08:00: Breakfast - 0.499m (6.9%)

E4
19:00: The Big Bang Theory - 0.507m (2.4%)

Sky Sports 1
13:00: Live Ford Super Sunday - 1.213m (11.5%)
16:00: Live Ford Super Sunday - 1.125m (7.8%)

Sky Sports F1
06:00 to 09:30: Live Japanese Grand Prix - 494k (10.0%)
* peak - 0.776m (9.5%) at 08:50

BT Sport 1
11:00: Live: Manchester United v Everton - 0.541m (6.4%)

Sources - DS, ITV Media, DMN

Where have I said that DA hasn't done well? Where have I ever discredited it? I am merely responding to a post that was gleefully unmentioning of the sudden decline. Of course everything has a shelf life (I'm a 46 year old man, I think I know that), but my point stands. DA may still be bringing in numbers, but for such an established show to lose so much viewership in just 11 months is staggering, it is clearly not imagined to be at the end of its shelf life by executives so why it suddenly dropped is enigmatic. NT on BBC1 is a prime example of an established show flickering out of existence. But DA is nothing other than unexpected.