As an aside, but related to that point, S4C has just been added to BBC iplayer.

I can't quite pinpoint when Channel 4 stopped it's involvement with S4C, but in my part of the world, the signal from Wales was stronger, so I would use it as 'catchup' (English language only ), although Superted in Welsh was strangely addictive.

See Post 12431.

Death in Paradise at the start of the year?

See Post 12431.

Just added a couple in bold

January
- Broadchurch 2 (ITV)
- The Voice UK 4 (BBC)
- Stars in Their Eyes (ITV, New)
- Celebrity Big Brother 15 (C5)
- Call The Midwife 4 (BBC)
- Mr Selfridge 2 (ITV)
- The Musketeers 2 (BBC)
- Death in Paradise 4 (BBC, 8x60)

February
- EastEnders 30th LIVE (BBC)
- Ant & Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway 12 (ITV)
- Home Fires (ITV, 6x60, New)

March
- Gogglebox 5 (C4)

April
- Britain's Got Talent 9 (ITV)
- Bear Grylls: Celebrity Survivor (ITV, New)

June
- Big Brother 16 (C5)

August
- Great British Bake Off 3 (BBC)
- Doctor Who 8 (BBC)
- The X Factor 12 (ITV)
- Celebrity Big Brother 16 (C5)

September
- Coronation Street LIVE (ITV)
- Strictly Come Dancing 13 (BBC)
- Gogglebox 6 (C4)

November
- I'm a Celebrity 15 (ITV)
- Downton Abbey 6 (ITV)

December
- Sherlock Christmas Special 2015 (BBC, New)

TBC
- The Generation Game (BBC, Unconfirmed)
- Thunderbirds (ITV, New)
- Jekyll and Hyde (ITV, 13x60, New)
- War and Peace (BBC, 6x60, New)
- Peep Show 9 (C4)
- Luther 4 (BBC)
- Wolf Hall (BBC, 6x60, New)
- Beowulf (ITV, 13x60, New)

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Thanks to ChrisE, H of De Vil

Anyone know more info to add to the list? If you do, quote this post, remove the [ quote ] tags and add in the show(s)/info to the correct section.



I'd like to add in more episode numbers for different series, if anyone has any to contribute let me know. I'm astonished ITV are backing 13-episode series for Beowulf and Jekyll and Hyde.

I think overall ratings are down partly because of the gradual uptake of online streaming services. Nowadays medium-high range TVs come with wireless internet, apps, iplayer, and other paid streaming services built into them so it's just as easy to switch to a streaming service as it would be to switch on a TV channel. It won't be long until even the budget sets come with these services. Also for those who don't have a TV with internet features you can get a smart internet enabled PVR much cheaper than a new TV. It's a bit like how the digital stations diluted the terrestrial ratings during the mid to late 2000s although I don't expect online streaming to have such a big impact as that did. The American TV market, which is often said to be a few years ahead of the UK market (in terms of progression to HD, mutichannels, streaming etc) is taking a ratings hit at the moment from the uptake of online streaming services and I expect a similar pattern will become more evident in the UK in the coming years.

Another factor may be that we are now out of recession and slowly but surely people are/will have more confidence and spending money. I think there were some reports which suggested overall TV ratings went up during the height of the recession as more people were staying in.

ITV has released a short teaser trailer for Downton Abbey:

http://www.itv.com/downtonabbey/down...y-at-christmas

I will be shocked if there no trailer for next week aftet tonight episodes of EE

it sound like a big week for the beals and carters /petter and lan fallout / Tina and tosh comes a bleeding end and the long waited hyped up arrival for the Carter clan next week
That sounds like classic EE to me

Last year EE
EE 5.53 agenst royal variety
EE 5.96 against text Santa

Disappointing for EastEnders, makes me wonder how much of an effect the news update has on the rating. Obviously if it was rating well it wouldn't matter at all but when it's rating poorly then it knocking a few 100k off is more noticeable. Last Thursday it was tapechecked and it got 6.69m/32.7%, but it's full slot rating was 6.40m, this week it wasn't (it ended just after the cutoff) and it got 6.35m/32.2%. Obviously this gets sorted in the officials, which end up being just as poor, but it could explain some of the inconsistencies in the overnights. Same would go for the other soaps, but I think ITV's soaps are nearly always tapechecked.

Related to James J post about whats coming up next year I have compiled a list of BBC commissions for drama programs. Now some of these may be years away but this can be read in conjunction with James J list as there are some dramas on it I had not heard of and some we have been waiting a while for which may turn up next year.

BBC Drama List December 2014

BBC1

One of Us (4x60) - Drama form The Missing writers - announced Nov 2014
Luther (2x60) - filming March 2015
SS GB (5x60) - Adaptation of Len Deighton spy novel - announced Nov 2014
Cuffs (8x60) - 8pm weekday cop show - announced Nov 2014
The Secret Agent (3x60) - Joseph Conrad novel adapted by Tony Marchant - announced Nov 2014
Undercover (6x60) - Peter Moffat political thriller - announced Nov 2014
The A Word (6x60) - Peter Bowker autism drama - announced Nov 2014
Call the Midwife (8x60) - 4th series for 2015
Call the Midwife (8x60) - Xmas special & 5th series for 2016 - announced Nov 2014
The Syndicate (6x60) - 3rd series with Anthony Andrews - filming October 2014
Wallander (3x90) - final series - filming October 2014
The Night Manager (6x60) - Adaptation of leCarre novel - announced October 2014
The River (6x60) - Cop drama with Stellan Skarsgard/Nicola Walker - production started October 2014
Partners in Crime (6x60) - Agatha Christie crime drama D Walliams/JRaine -
In the Club (6x60) - 2nd series -
The Outcast (2x90) - Adaptation of Sadie Jones novel - announced September 2014
Inspector George Gently (4x90) - 8th series - filming September 2014
The C Word (1x90) - cancer drama with Sheridan Smith - filming June 2014
The Living and the Dead (6x60) - Supernatural drama from Life on Mars writers - shooting 2015
From Darkness (4x60) - Original drama from Katie Baxendale - announced August 2014
A Song for Jenny (1x75) - Drama about 7/7 bombings - announced August 2014
Capital (3x60) - Petr Bowker drama - announced August 2014
Happy Valley (6x60) - 2nd series - announced August 2014
War and Peace (6x60) - Andrew Davies adaptation - announced February 2014 for 2015
Doctor Foster (5x60) - GP drama - announced February 2014
And Then There Were None (3x60) - Agatha Chritstie adaptation - announced March 2014
Jonathon Strange and Mr Norell (7x60) - 19 centuary supernatural drama - announced October 2013
Dickensian (20x30) - Tony Jordan drama - announced May 2013
Ripper Street (8x60) - 3rd series on Amazon first
The Musketeers (10x60) - 2nd series - announced February 2014
Poldark (6x60) - remake - announced May 2013
An Inspector Calls (1x90) - announced April 2014
Cider with Rosie (1x90) - Samantha Morton - announced April 2014
The Go Between (1x90) - adaption of book - announced April 2014
Lady Chatterleys Lover (1x90) - Jedd Mercurio adaptation - announced April 2014
Shetland (6x60) - 2nd series
The Casual Vacancy (3x60) - JK Rowling book - announced December 2012
Death in Paradise (8x60) - 4th series
Silent Witness (10x60) - 18th series
The Interceptor (8x60) - High tech police drama with Jo Joyner and Trevor Eve -
Last Tango In Halifax - 3rd series
The Game (6x60) - Toby Whitehouse spy drama - finished and was expected last spring
New Tricks (10x60) - 12th series - filming







BBC2

The Woman in Red (1x90) - courtroom period drama - announced Nov 2014
The Last Kingdom (8x60) - Historical Drama - filming started Nov 2014
Stonemouth (2x60) - Adaptation of Iain Banks novel - filming October 2014 for 2015
The Dresser (1x120) - A Hopkins & I McKellan - Commissioned Nov 2014
Top of the Lake (6x60) - 2nd series - Commissioned Nov 2014
The Eichman Show (1x90) - Drama about the Eichman trial - expected Early 2015
London Spy (5x60) - Jim Broadbent & Charlotte Rampling - filming October 2014
The Hollow Crown:The War of the Roses (3x?) - 3 Shakespeare plays - filming started
Life in Squares (3x60) - Costume drama with James Norton - announced August 2014
Wolf Hall (6x60) - adaptation of Hilary Mantel’s Tudor novels - due early 2015
One Child (2x90) - adoption drama - announced May 2014
Line of Duty (6x60) - 3rd and 4th series - announced April 2014 for 2015/2016

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I have probably missed some so if anybody has any additions post them please.

Don't forget it was the politicians who started the tabloids on this story. Lib Dem MP Don Foster (who was their Arts and Broadcasting spokesman for years until the current Coalition was formed) used to put out a press release every December for years totting up the repeats. Now the tabloids do it themselves, but he started it.

That's interesting. If anyone has a five minute breakdown the rating at 7.45 could be the most accurate figure.

Indeed it was, and you can see bits of it on YouTube. Top of the Pops was live quite frequently in those days, and Christmas Eve isn't an official Bank Holiday so there was no problem with overtime or anything. In fact for many years it was a tradition for a live pop concert on BBC2 on Christmas Eve, one of the most famous Queen concerts was shown live on Christmas Eve in 1975.


But this has always happened, in whatever golden age you want to look at. That legendary 1993 Christmas had some, with Miss Marple taking up half of New Year's Eve. The year before was stuffed with repeats with Citizen Smith, Porridge and Only Fools and Horses in prime slots. There's the continuity for the whole of New Year's Day 1987 on YouTube where repeats of Russ Abbott and Only Fools took up two hours of the evening. You had loads in the seventies too, and then in recent years the likes of Shrek The Halls and Wallace and Gromit have had endless primetime outings. Don't recall much moaning when Wallace and Gromit pulled in another seven million viewers on New Year's Day after it had been on Christmas Day. I don't know why this is a concern now, especially when there are far fewer repeats.



Yes, What's On TV always has EastEnders on the cover, regardless of the time of year. It was on the cover in the week of the Royal Wedding, in the week of the Jubilee, during the Olympics, and it's on the cover at Christmas. What's On TV is such a behemoth in terms of sales it simply doesn't want to fiddle with anything and so EastEnders is always on the cover.


It used to be the case that S4C often worked as a C4+1 for people on the border, especially when they used to show Brookside at 10pm where it served much the same role as the 'stEnders BBC3 repeat. If people missed it on C4 they knew they could see it on S4C later. Obviously, now everyone in Wales can receive C4 there's no need for S4C to show English programmes.

That is a fabulous list, Yorkie, thank you and the BBC should be very proud of it. Lots worth watching there. Reverting to James J's original post, I'm not sure at all we should assume that Doctor Who Series 9 will start in August - if Atlantis continues to tank in the ratings, that might not see a third season and DW would presumably then start when Merlin/Atlantis used to - ie in October when SCD starts.

That would also give the DW production team the breathing space they may well need - next year Steven Moffat will overtake Russell T Davies on the number of episodes he has produced, this year's Christmas special from him is called "Last Christmas", and the end of next year may see Sherlock series 4 in full production. That all adds up, IMHO, to a man who is getting ready to leave DW, as he has been hinting ever more clearly.

Looking at the soaps you have to ask if they will see any boost not just on Xmas Day but over the whole fortnight at all? I suppose we expect some trailers etc for EE but is anything really going to work now?

if they advertise it like they did at Easter , it would really help. It, it did boost it at Easter , they should try it again .

Agree and to pick up on a comment made by another FM regarding the new set for EE, as the numbers are dropping as each year passes Its my personal opinion than investment in a new set is likely to be cut back, sad but true if the numbers are this bad now think three years from now, is £15 million on a new set at a time when the BBC is cutting really a worthwhile use of license fee.?

Eastenders will get the boost on Christmas Day and a slight uplift through the week following and another boost on New Years Day. It happenes every year regardless of the show is doing normally.

We get to December and Christmas parties, shopping always restrict the soaps then come Christmas Day parity is restored.

I saw that as well. Wasn't expecting it. I watched it through my Sky box, it's good as sometimes films that aren't on the web version show up on the Sky version. Unfortunately that also works the other way sometimes too!

This is the investment EastEnders needed when it was strong. Didn't they cut the budget?The problem with EastEnders is that it doesn't sell in huge numbers around the world so has to justify its BBC existence. And as I keep saying they didn't change the producer so that ratings on BBC1 dropped and people watch on iPlayer. It's made to boost the ratings on BBC1 NOT BBC iPlayer. Don't believe everything TV bosses say about ratings publicly. Private conversations are another matter.

Death In Paradise usually starts in the second/third week in January.

Can't wait.

Hope moffat leaves. He has ruined Doctor who. Very few of his episodes are better than even RTD weakest episodes.

From Digital Spy:

I'm A Celebrity stays top on Thursday with 7.4 million

I'm a Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here! stayed top of the ratings on Thursday, overnight data reveals.

The ITV series climbed slightly from Wednesday night to an average 7.48 million viewers (32.6%) at 8.30pm (351,000/2.0% on +1). ITV2's spinoff show brought in 710k (4.6%) at 10pm.

On BBC One, Watchdog interested 3.42m (15.4%) at 8pm, followed by Crimewatch with 2.61m (11.5%) at 9pm. Question Time intrigued 2.32m (22.2%) at 10.35pm.

BBC Two's Snooker UK Championship coverage scored 1.08m (5.6%) at 7pm, while MasterChef: The Professionals appealed to 2.39m (10.8%) at 8pm. The latest episode of The Fall thrilled 2.10m (9.2%) at 9pm, followed by Russell Howard's Good News with 1.12m (6.5%) at 10pm.

On Channel 4, Amazing Spaces fascinated 1.18m (5.3%) at 8pm (154k/0.7%), followed by 24 Hours in A&E with 1.27m (5.6%) at 9pm (325k/2.1%) and Babylon with 411k (2.7%) at 10pm.

Channel 5's Railway: The First Great Western gathered 664k (3.0%) at 8pm, while Britain's Bloodiest Dynasty attracted 514k (2.3%) at 9pm (108k/0.7%).

On E4, The Big Bang Theory amused 1.14m (4.9%) at 8.30pm (350k/1.5%). Sky1's Arrow continued with 260k (1.2%) at 8pm.