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The Ratings Thread (Part 62)
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Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“There is actually a conspiracy theory doing the rounds that Itv will air Birds Of A Feather on Christmas Day. Here is why this theory has materialised:
Insider information from Itv says that there will be a Christmas SPECIAL: http://www.itvmedia.co.uk/355957
Birds of a Feather Christmas Special
Man-eating Dorien, and comical sisters Tracey and Sharon are reunited after 15 years for this brand new hilarious series.
The show follows two sisters, Linda Robson and Pauline Quirke, and their man-eating neighbour, Lesley Joseph, as they share a home in the posh Essex town of Chigwell after their husbands are sent to prison.
The show was first launched 24 years ago and is now being revived and has been written by the original creators Laurence Marks and Maurice Gran.
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Itv are trying to attack the BBC's programming this Chrismas Day, putting this spanner into the works.”
“There is actually a conspiracy theory doing the rounds that Itv will air Birds Of A Feather on Christmas Day. Here is why this theory has materialised:
Insider information from Itv says that there will be a Christmas SPECIAL: http://www.itvmedia.co.uk/355957
Birds of a Feather Christmas Special
Man-eating Dorien, and comical sisters Tracey and Sharon are reunited after 15 years for this brand new hilarious series.
The show follows two sisters, Linda Robson and Pauline Quirke, and their man-eating neighbour, Lesley Joseph, as they share a home in the posh Essex town of Chigwell after their husbands are sent to prison.
The show was first launched 24 years ago and is now being revived and has been written by the original creators Laurence Marks and Maurice Gran.
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Itv are trying to attack the BBC's programming this Chrismas Day, putting this spanner into the works.”
It's common sense to have a Christmas special for Birds And A Feather. People would watch. And Christmas Day, even more than Saturday night is a battleground. Anything goes. Birds would need to be kept well away from Miranda and Mrs Brown's Boys though.
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Nothing's been confirmed or reported. Tennant speculated in an interview himself, that would possibly happen.”
“Nothing's been confirmed or reported. Tennant speculated in an interview himself, that would possibly happen.”
I hope its only speculation. I like u Samuel and yr posts...but BC has been the only thing I've watched and liked on itv in the past yr or so.....but that was bit crummy to say that
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“I don't think BOAF would be much of a threat on Christmas Day tbh, I think its already peaked and I don't think the second series will fly as high.”
“I don't think BOAF would be much of a threat on Christmas Day tbh, I think its already peaked and I don't think the second series will fly as high.”
Nice pun there
If there is a Christmas special then it should be on Christmas Eve or Boxing Day, I feel it would get lost in the schedule on the big day.
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“A friend of a relative's had a BARB box many years ago. She once accidentally forgot to press the button when she left the room, so it appeared that she had been watching a channel right through the night for 14 hours or something. She got a phone call from BARB asking if this was correct. Shamefully she lied and said it was correct, fearing they might take her off the panel if she admitted her mistake (and lose the ongoing £).”
“A friend of a relative's had a BARB box many years ago. She once accidentally forgot to press the button when she left the room, so it appeared that she had been watching a channel right through the night for 14 hours or something. She got a phone call from BARB asking if this was correct. Shamefully she lied and said it was correct, fearing they might take her off the panel if she admitted her mistake (and lose the ongoing £).”
That's a bit different to a savvy person deliberately doctoring their results.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“It's common sense to have a Christmas special for Birds And A Feather. People would watch. And Christmas Day, even more than Saturday night is a battleground. Anything goes. Birds would need to be kept well away from Miranda and Mrs Brown's Boys though.”
“It's common sense to have a Christmas special for Birds And A Feather. People would watch. And Christmas Day, even more than Saturday night is a battleground. Anything goes. Birds would need to be kept well away from Miranda and Mrs Brown's Boys though.”
I think Itv are going to put Birds in the slot they've aired Paul O'Grady the last two years. There's been no news about there being a Love of Dogs Xmas special. And given the lower than usual ratings for it this series, I dont think Itv will want to air one this year anyway.
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Where in that article does it say that ITV will show Birds on Christmas Day?”
“Where in that article does it say that ITV will show Birds on Christmas Day?”
If it actually confirmed the transmission day then it wouldn't be just a "rumour".
Originally Posted by AUNAC:
“I hope its only speculation. I like u Samuel and yr posts...but BC has been the only thing I've watched and liked on itv in the past yr or so.....but that was bit crummy to say that”
“I hope its only speculation. I like u Samuel and yr posts...but BC has been the only thing I've watched and liked on itv in the past yr or so.....but that was bit crummy to say that”
Just to reiterate, that David Tennant thing was pure speculation on my part. There's been nothing revealed about Broadchurch series 2 in the media besides casts names and a few photographs, everything is being kept secret.
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“If it actually confirmed the transmission day then it wouldn't be just a "rumour".”
“If it actually confirmed the transmission day then it wouldn't be just a "rumour".
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Yeah very true
I can see it being on the big day and I wouldn't be surprised if ITV put it in a Coronation Street sandwich. Having said that I do hope the BBC put as much comedy as possible in their schedule. Miranda and/or Mrs Brown's Boys would do huge numbers if scheduled correctly.
Originally Posted by James J:
“That's a bit different to a savvy person deliberately doctoring their results.”
“That's a bit different to a savvy person deliberately doctoring their results.”
I know; I just thought it might be of interest.
How would such manipulation manifest itself though? 20 repeated viewings of the same episode of your favourite programme? That would be picked up.
If you hate (say) Corrie enough to want to help destroy its ratings (by not viewing it) then surely you wouldn't have been watching in the first place? Then again maybe H of de Vil and yourself (and other long-term fans) might do this just to help eject Stuart Blackburn.
Strictly bunging in a well placed preview of whats coming up 
-certainly the stronger dancers are being kept for this coming hour.
-certainly the stronger dancers are being kept for this coming hour.
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Nice pun there
If there is a Christmas special then it should be on Christmas Eve or Boxing Day, I feel it would get lost in the schedule on the big day.”
“Nice pun there
If there is a Christmas special then it should be on Christmas Eve or Boxing Day, I feel it would get lost in the schedule on the big day.”
Thank you-though I have to admit it was not via conscious thought -which either makes me a genius or just lucky -I suspect the latter
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Strictly bunging in a well placed preview of whats coming up-certainly the stronger dancers are being kept for this coming hour.”
“Strictly bunging in a well placed preview of whats coming up
-certainly the stronger dancers are being kept for this coming hour.”
There's a lot of criticism on the Strictly thread about the quality of the first half of the show - I said this last week and I say it again, clash or no clash they need to stagger the dancers better between good and bad. They've obviously stacked the second half of the show with dancers who appeal to the younger demographic but they have to be careful about the quality of the first half.
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Thank you-though I have to admit it was not via conscious thought -which either makes me a genius or just lucky -I suspect the latter”
“Thank you-though I have to admit it was not via conscious thought -which either makes me a genius or just lucky -I suspect the latter
”
Yes I would say very lucky
Did make me smile though.I agree with Fudd/the Strictly forum, the first half of Strictly was a bit lacklustre. They really need to put a few good dancers at the beginning to even the show out.
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Why show that on Gogglebox though?”
“Why show that on Gogglebox though?”
They've always shown a wide range of programs that cause various reactions in viewers. It's not a new thing. They do news at least twice a week, often with sad stories.
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Strictly bunging in a well placed preview of whats coming up-certainly the stronger dancers are being kept for this coming hour.”
“Strictly bunging in a well placed preview of whats coming up
-certainly the stronger dancers are being kept for this coming hour.”
Followed by Caroline Flack, Scott Mills and Frankie Bridge.
Smart and definitely trying to keep the younger end of the audience from switching. Some of those oldies will never get to perform after 7.30pm!
The viewers aren't going anywhere in that first hour so it makes sense.
So were there sufficient trailers on ITV this week to correct the impression left after Sunday's show that tonight's X Factor would start at 20:00? I don't watch enough live ITV to be able to judge.
Tomorrow's ratings might give a clue. Even without that duff promo the 19:30-20:00 period would probably have rated low for Factor, but just how low will it go?
NOTE: I used Broadcast's report of Strictly's five-minute peak last Saturday (supposedly at 19:45) along with DS's 15-minute peak at 19:45 to calculate that Strictly fell slightly during the 15 minutes before the clash at 20:00. It appears that Broadcast might have made a mistake there as they have since been using 15-minute peaks (e.g. 13.0m for GBBO) and it did seem unusual that the audience didn't keep growing at 19:50 and 19:55.
Tomorrow's ratings might give a clue. Even without that duff promo the 19:30-20:00 period would probably have rated low for Factor, but just how low will it go?
NOTE: I used Broadcast's report of Strictly's five-minute peak last Saturday (supposedly at 19:45) along with DS's 15-minute peak at 19:45 to calculate that Strictly fell slightly during the 15 minutes before the clash at 20:00. It appears that Broadcast might have made a mistake there as they have since been using 15-minute peaks (e.g. 13.0m for GBBO) and it did seem unusual that the audience didn't keep growing at 19:50 and 19:55.
Originally Posted by James J:
“Does putting someone on ignore hide their quoted posts in other members' posts?”
“Does putting someone on ignore hide their quoted posts in other members' posts?”
No.
Originally Posted by C14E:
“Followed by Caroline Flack, Scott Mills and Frankie Bridge.
Smart and definitely trying to keep the younger end of the audience from switching. Some of those oldies will never get to perform after 7.30pm!
The viewers aren't going anywhere in that first hour so it makes sense.”
“Followed by Caroline Flack, Scott Mills and Frankie Bridge.
Smart and definitely trying to keep the younger end of the audience from switching. Some of those oldies will never get to perform after 7.30pm!
The viewers aren't going anywhere in that first hour so it makes sense.”
The X Factor is back to 8pm next week so one of them may get the chance to perform between 7.30 and 8.
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“So were there sufficient trailers on ITV this week to correct the impression left after Sunday's show that tonight's X Factor would start at 20:00? I don't watch enough live ITV to be able to judge.
Tomorrow's ratings might give a clue. Even without that duff promo the 19:30-20:00 period would probably have rated low for Factor, but just how low will it go?
NOTE: I used Broadcast's report of Strictly's five-minute peak last Saturday (supposedly at 19:45) along with DS's 15-minute peak at 19:45 to calculate that Strictly fell slightly in the 15 minutes before the clash at 20:00. It appears that Broadcast might have made a mistake there as they have since been using 15-minute peaks (e.g. with GBBO) and it did seem unusual that the audience didn't keep growing at 19:50 and 19:55.”
“So were there sufficient trailers on ITV this week to correct the impression left after Sunday's show that tonight's X Factor would start at 20:00? I don't watch enough live ITV to be able to judge.
Tomorrow's ratings might give a clue. Even without that duff promo the 19:30-20:00 period would probably have rated low for Factor, but just how low will it go?
NOTE: I used Broadcast's report of Strictly's five-minute peak last Saturday (supposedly at 19:45) along with DS's 15-minute peak at 19:45 to calculate that Strictly fell slightly in the 15 minutes before the clash at 20:00. It appears that Broadcast might have made a mistake there as they have since been using 15-minute peaks (e.g. with GBBO) and it did seem unusual that the audience didn't keep growing at 19:50 and 19:55.”
It was promoted as 7.30pm during the football - I can't remember any trailer or promotion during Grantchester and they're the only two shows I watched live on ITV this week.
Lets be honest- XFactor will do very badly tonight. A one hour clash against SCD, it's bound to be its worst live show rating in years.
However this is my conspiracy theory: Itv have deliberately scheduled the first live show so badly and read out the wrong time on screen so that it gets a low rating. Here me out before you say WTF... they will take the PR hit tomorrow... but next week when it moves to 8pm, its rating is bound to go up. So next week Itv and their PR crew will be tweeting "XF rating up week on week, first time this has happened in 4 years for a second live show" etc, and use this to pretend that viewers are really buzzing about the show this year. It is a deliberate tactic by Itv to create a perception that ratings are increasing due to people really enjoying the actual live show when it happens next week, although the increase will be solely down to scheduling rather than quality of content.
However this is my conspiracy theory: Itv have deliberately scheduled the first live show so badly and read out the wrong time on screen so that it gets a low rating. Here me out before you say WTF... they will take the PR hit tomorrow... but next week when it moves to 8pm, its rating is bound to go up. So next week Itv and their PR crew will be tweeting "XF rating up week on week, first time this has happened in 4 years for a second live show" etc, and use this to pretend that viewers are really buzzing about the show this year. It is a deliberate tactic by Itv to create a perception that ratings are increasing due to people really enjoying the actual live show when it happens next week, although the increase will be solely down to scheduling rather than quality of content.
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Lets be honest- XFactor will do very badly tonight. A one hour clash against SCD, it's bound to be its worst live show rating in years.
However this is my conspiracy theory: Itv have deliberately scheduled the first live show so badly so that it gets a low rating. Here me out... next week when it moves to 8pm, its rating is bound to go up. So next week Itv and their PR crew will be tweeting "XF rating up week on week, first time this has happened in 4 years for a second live show" etc, and use this to pretend that viewers are really buzzing about the show this year. It is a deliberate tactic by Itv to create a perception that ratings are increasing when it happens next week, although the increase will be solely down to scheduling rather than quality of content.”
“Lets be honest- XFactor will do very badly tonight. A one hour clash against SCD, it's bound to be its worst live show rating in years.
However this is my conspiracy theory: Itv have deliberately scheduled the first live show so badly so that it gets a low rating. Here me out... next week when it moves to 8pm, its rating is bound to go up. So next week Itv and their PR crew will be tweeting "XF rating up week on week, first time this has happened in 4 years for a second live show" etc, and use this to pretend that viewers are really buzzing about the show this year. It is a deliberate tactic by Itv to create a perception that ratings are increasing when it happens next week, although the increase will be solely down to scheduling rather than quality of content.”
Change the record Samuel.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“It was promoted as 7.30pm during the football - I can't remember any trailer or promotion during Grantchester and they're the only two shows I watched live on ITV this week.”
“It was promoted as 7.30pm during the football - I can't remember any trailer or promotion during Grantchester and they're the only two shows I watched live on ITV this week.”
Not promising so far: football won't crossover strongly with Factor and people often avoid the pre-/post-/half-time breaks anyway.
If Samuel's correct, then the continuity blunder on Sunday was actually a PR masterstroke.
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“So were there sufficient trailers on ITV this week to correct the impression left after Sunday's show that tonight's X Factor would start at 20:00? I don't watch enough live ITV to be able to judge.
Tomorrow's ratings might give a clue. Even without that duff promo the 19:30-20:00 period would probably have rated low for Factor, but just how low will it go?
NOTE: I used Broadcast's report of Strictly's five-minute peak last Saturday (supposedly at 19:45) along with DS's 15-minute peak at 19:45 to calculate that Strictly fell slightly during the 15 minutes before the clash at 20:00. It appears that Broadcast might have made a mistake there as they have since been using 15-minute peaks (e.g. 13.0m for GBBO) and it did seem unusual that the audience didn't keep growing at 19:50 and 19:55.”
“So were there sufficient trailers on ITV this week to correct the impression left after Sunday's show that tonight's X Factor would start at 20:00? I don't watch enough live ITV to be able to judge.
Tomorrow's ratings might give a clue. Even without that duff promo the 19:30-20:00 period would probably have rated low for Factor, but just how low will it go?
NOTE: I used Broadcast's report of Strictly's five-minute peak last Saturday (supposedly at 19:45) along with DS's 15-minute peak at 19:45 to calculate that Strictly fell slightly during the 15 minutes before the clash at 20:00. It appears that Broadcast might have made a mistake there as they have since been using 15-minute peaks (e.g. 13.0m for GBBO) and it did seem unusual that the audience didn't keep growing at 19:50 and 19:55.”
Trailers are still important. It's true that you can series link on EPGs and never miss it, but that's recordings. When it comes to watching live a trailer reminding you when it's on is vital.
Wasn't a breakdown published of last Saturday's Strictly and X Factor ratings on the previous thread? Was it the same as the table in Broadcast?
Broadcast also have the overnight rating wrong for the Strictly final last year. I'm sure it was 11.5m average and a peak of 12.6m.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Trailers are still important. It's true that you can series link on EPGs and never miss it, but that's recordings. When it comes to watching live a trailer reminding you when it's on is vital.”
“Trailers are still important. It's true that you can series link on EPGs and never miss it, but that's recordings. When it comes to watching live a trailer reminding you when it's on is vital.”
I agree. And ITV don't benefit from 70% of recorded shows' adverts, as only 30% are played back at normal speed and count in the ratings as far as the consolidated viewing to adverts is concerned (the currency in the ad business).
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“Wasn't a breakdown published of last Saturday's Strictly and X Factor ratings on the previous thread? Was it the same as the table in Broadcast?”
“Wasn't a breakdown published of last Saturday's Strictly and X Factor ratings on the previous thread? Was it the same as the table in Broadcast?”
Broadcast gave 10.0m as the 5-minute peak at 19:45, but that was the same number (to 1 decimal place) as DS's 15-minute peak (9.99m at 19:45), albeit with a different share. (The breakdown we had was a 15-minute one, and it also gave 10.0m.) It might be right, but I would have expected some growth during the last 15 minutes before the clash.
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“This does ring a bell actually, although I'm not sure who stated that. I wonder if you could find the relevant post? If it ever was the case, it's not now, as BARB have confirmed that it's done by allocating playback to the most recent linear showing.
It's an interesting idea certainly.”
“This does ring a bell actually, although I'm not sure who stated that. I wonder if you could find the relevant post? If it ever was the case, it's not now, as BARB have confirmed that it's done by allocating playback to the most recent linear showing.
It's an interesting idea certainly.”
Hard to search, closest I can find is this...
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=3469
Originally Posted by KennyT:
“IIRC, miketeevee said the commercial catchup TV ratings get spread "proportionally" across the repeat showings, such that if the showings got ~80%/5%/5%/5%/5%, then the catchup ratings were added in the same ratio, so they shouldn't make a significant difference...
K”
“IIRC, miketeevee said the commercial catchup TV ratings get spread "proportionally" across the repeat showings, such that if the showings got ~80%/5%/5%/5%/5%, then the catchup ratings were added in the same ratio, so they shouldn't make a significant difference...
K”
Are miketeevee and/or KennyT still contributing?
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