Could we say this has been a mediocre year for ratings and for ITV a bad one, with even the one cast iron certainty, IAC, dropping over a million viewers this week. England's failure in the World Cup, Andy Murray failing at Wimbledon, a mild winter and a hot summer are all contributing factors, but I think viewers are becoming tired of the overkill with soaps and the same tired entertainment formats.
The Ratings Thread (Part 62)
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The Apprentice is still second on iPlayer's 'Most Popular' chart after three days, could well be set for a stonking timeshift.
Dire figures for the soaps last night. I wonder when ITV will actually act? I look forward to SB serving ITV a special Chrstmas treat.
Good for IAC in the circumstances. 7.8m is not to be sniffed at, even if the momentum has gone.
Good for IAC in the circumstances. 7.8m is not to be sniffed at, even if the momentum has gone.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Dire figures for the soaps last night. I wonder when ITV will actually act? I look forward to SB serving ITV a special Chrstmas treat.
Good for IAC in the circumstances. 7.8m is not to be sniffed at, even if the momentum has gone.”
“Dire figures for the soaps last night. I wonder when ITV will actually act? I look forward to SB serving ITV a special Chrstmas treat.
Good for IAC in the circumstances. 7.8m is not to be sniffed at, even if the momentum has gone.”
What circumstances, a cold night in December?
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Dire figures for the soaps last night. I wonder when ITV will actually act? I look forward to SB serving ITV a special Chrstmas treat.
Good for IAC in the circumstances. 7.8m is not to be sniffed at, even if the momentum has gone.”
“Dire figures for the soaps last night. I wonder when ITV will actually act? I look forward to SB serving ITV a special Chrstmas treat.
Good for IAC in the circumstances. 7.8m is not to be sniffed at, even if the momentum has gone.”
ITV are so stupid they'll probably commission even more Emmerdales when the football goes next year. They can't see the overkill and hopelessness of many episodes of their soaps is hurting. Also they seem to let shows go on way past their sell by date, YBF and Loose Women are two clunkers that were launched in the last century, and tonight's two entertainment big hitters are at least ten years old.
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Could we say this has been a mediocre year for ratings and for ITV a bad one, with even the one cast iron certainty, IAC, dropping over a million viewers this week. England's failure in the World Cup, Andy Murray failing at Wimbledon, a mild winter and a hot summer are all contributing factors, but I think viewers are becoming tired of the overkill with soaps and the same tired entertainment formats.”
“Could we say this has been a mediocre year for ratings and for ITV a bad one, with even the one cast iron certainty, IAC, dropping over a million viewers this week. England's failure in the World Cup, Andy Murray failing at Wimbledon, a mild winter and a hot summer are all contributing factors, but I think viewers are becoming tired of the overkill with soaps and the same tired entertainment formats.”
A mediocre Autumn but we've had some great figures from January up to The World Cup. Autumn viewing just collapsed.
Originally Posted by seansnotmyname@:
“What circumstances, a cold night in December?”
“What circumstances, a cold night in December?”
A weaker cast, the best ones left early, problems before the series started. Its lost momentum this week as well, with Thursday's a poor episode. I thought it would be much lower last night.
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Pointless: 3.79m (25.1%)
BBC News at Six: 4.91m (28.6%)
BBC Regional News: 5.31m (29.3%)
The One Show: 3.77m (20.2%)
The Two Ronnies Sketchbook: 3.27m (16.5%)
EastEnders: 6.25m (29.6%)
Citizen Khan: 2.95m (13.5%)
Have I Got News For You: 4.02m (17.2%)
Not Going Out: 2.89m (12.5%)
BBC News at Ten: 2.92m (14.1%)
BBC Regional News: 3.39m (18.3%)
The Graham Norton Show: 3.16m (23.2%)”
“Pointless: 3.79m (25.1%)
BBC News at Six: 4.91m (28.6%)
BBC Regional News: 5.31m (29.3%)
The One Show: 3.77m (20.2%)
The Two Ronnies Sketchbook: 3.27m (16.5%)
EastEnders: 6.25m (29.6%)
Citizen Khan: 2.95m (13.5%)
Have I Got News For You: 4.02m (17.2%)
Not Going Out: 2.89m (12.5%)
BBC News at Ten: 2.92m (14.1%)
BBC Regional News: 3.39m (18.3%)
The Graham Norton Show: 3.16m (23.2%)”
I still don't get why Not Going Out loses 25% of its inheritance every week, it's quite an easily accessible show, and at 9:30 everyone else is half way through a hour long programme
I suppose HIGNFY might have a particular type of audience within its rating that won't watch any other comedy shows. Think someone like Ian Hislop sat at home watching TV.
Citizen Khan is doing a bit better, but still embarrassing that both are beaten by the Two Ronnies repeat.
No surprise that Gogglebox is falling, is this going to be yet another Channel 4 show that peaks very quickly due to them fast tracking multiple extended commissions, and then continues for years to lacklustre ratings, like Million Pound Drop etc.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“A weaker cast”
“A weaker cast”
That's their own fault, and something that hasn't hurt them ever before, so not a valid excuse. IMO.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“ No surprise that Gogglebox is falling, is this going to be yet another Channel 4 show that peaks very quickly due to them fast tracking multiple extended commissions, and then continues for years to lacklustre ratings, like Million Pound Drop etc.”
“ No surprise that Gogglebox is falling, is this going to be yet another Channel 4 show that peaks very quickly due to them fast tracking multiple extended commissions, and then continues for years to lacklustre ratings, like Million Pound Drop etc.”
That's exactly right. C4 ruined Million Drop themselves. Way too much exposure. Same with DOND and more. C4 get a mediocre hit, then think people want it all the time. Doesn't work.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I still don't get why Not Going Out loses 25% of its inheritance every week, it's quite an easily accessible show, and at 9:30 everyone else is half way through a hour long programme
I suppose HIGNFY might have a particular type of audience within its rating that won't watch any other comedy shows. Think someone like Ian Hislop sat at home watching TV.
Citizen Khan is doing a bit better, but still embarrassing that both are beaten by the Two Ronnies repeat.
No surprise that Gogglebox is falling, is this going to be yet another Channel 4 show that peaks very quickly due to them fast tracking multiple extended commissions, and then continues for years to lacklustre ratings, like Million Pound Drop etc.”
“I still don't get why Not Going Out loses 25% of its inheritance every week, it's quite an easily accessible show, and at 9:30 everyone else is half way through a hour long programme
I suppose HIGNFY might have a particular type of audience within its rating that won't watch any other comedy shows. Think someone like Ian Hislop sat at home watching TV.
Citizen Khan is doing a bit better, but still embarrassing that both are beaten by the Two Ronnies repeat.
No surprise that Gogglebox is falling, is this going to be yet another Channel 4 show that peaks very quickly due to them fast tracking multiple extended commissions, and then continues for years to lacklustre ratings, like Million Pound Drop etc.”
The fizz has all but gone in Not Going Out. Don't get me wrong, it's still an OK sitcom, but it has run its course. Like yourself, I'm baffled as to why the 9.30pm comedy doesn't rate well. None of them do other than Mrs. Browns Boys.
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Fully agree.
Note to MPs
TV is not just for Chtistmas, but for all of the year
MPs should be working on the economy not acting for personal reasons against the BBC, they can't meet their own budgets and spend over the top as an election is coming, however freeze the LF for five years ad in extra costs like BBC World and S4C and expect 100% new shows to boot they can't manage the countries budget.”
“Fully agree.
Note to MPs
TV is not just for Chtistmas, but for all of the year
MPs should be working on the economy not acting for personal reasons against the BBC, they can't meet their own budgets and spend over the top as an election is coming, however freeze the LF for five years ad in extra costs like BBC World and S4C and expect 100% new shows to boot they can't manage the countries budget.”
excellent post, well put.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“A mediocre Autumn but we've had some great figures from January up to The World Cup. Autumn viewing just collapsed.”
“A mediocre Autumn but we've had some great figures from January up to The World Cup. Autumn viewing just collapsed.”
Sherlock, Pointless, Gogglebox and The Great British Bake Off did fantastically well, The Apprentice sailed along respectably until I'm A Celeb arrived, and The Voice's series average was up a good amount in both numbers and shares. But other than those six... yeah, you're really struggling.
Originally Posted by JordyD:
“I think, if Corrie was a sofa, it currently wouldn't be sold as part of the Manhattan range. But more of the Value range.”
“I think, if Corrie was a sofa, it currently wouldn't be sold as part of the Manhattan range. But more of the Value range.”
Had England got to the quarter finals of the World Cup against Germany, expect an audience peak of 28 million if the game went into extra time. Had Andy Murray won Wimbledon, 17 million. These were the potential ratings monsters that could have happened, but didn't.
Next year could be slim pickings as well with no World Cup or Olympics. One possible bright spot, particularly for ITV, could be England getting into the RUWC final, but should Murray flunk Wimbledon, there won't be much else to deliver mega ratings.
Next year could be slim pickings as well with no World Cup or Olympics. One possible bright spot, particularly for ITV, could be England getting into the RUWC final, but should Murray flunk Wimbledon, there won't be much else to deliver mega ratings.
Originally Posted by basdfg:
“No ident yet. After Strictly.”
“No ident yet. After Strictly.”
They really want people to stick around for Atlantis don't they?
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Pointless is over running again into SCD's slot. Worth noting for when the ratings come out.”
“Pointless is over running again into SCD's slot. Worth noting for when the ratings come out.”
Is it me or is Pointless starting to get boring?
Pointless Celebs (should have been 18:10) started at 18:13 and 50 seconds.
SCD (should have been 19:00) started at 19:04 and 20 seconds.
Timings as per my Virgin Media TiVo box. I guess this is why the ratings thread asks for stopwatches for Christmas.
SCD (should have been 19:00) started at 19:04 and 20 seconds.
Timings as per my Virgin Media TiVo box. I guess this is why the ratings thread asks for stopwatches for Christmas.
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“Sherlock, Pointless, Gogglebox and The Great British Bake Off did fantastically well, The Apprentice sailed along respectably until I'm A Celeb arrived, and The Voice's series average was up a good amount in both numbers and shares. But other than those six... yeah, you're really struggling.”
“Sherlock, Pointless, Gogglebox and The Great British Bake Off did fantastically well, The Apprentice sailed along respectably until I'm A Celeb arrived, and The Voice's series average was up a good amount in both numbers and shares. But other than those six... yeah, you're really struggling.”
Silent Witness and Death in Paradise were also up year on year for their series this year.
I've got to say seeing all those dramas listed that are coming up on BBC One has got me very excited! And not long to wait until Broadchurch either!
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Is it me or is Pointless starting to get boring?”
“Is it me or is Pointless starting to get boring?”
I agree with you here. It's starting to become stale.
Anyone else excited for the Christmas ident? (Or am I just sad?)
Originally Posted by davey_wavey:
“Silent Witness and Death in Paradise were also up year on year for their series this year.
I've got to say seeing all those dramas listed that are coming up on BBC One has got me very excited! And not long to wait until Broadchurch either!”
“Silent Witness and Death in Paradise were also up year on year for their series this year.
I've got to say seeing all those dramas listed that are coming up on BBC One has got me very excited! And not long to wait until Broadchurch either!”
As were Call the Midwife and Inspector George Gently. Silk was the first returning drama to be down, and then the rest followed suit.
With The Musketeers taking up Fridays, could George Gently turn up earlier this year? It's one of the few dramas that works on Thursday. I'd put Wallander there as well when that returns.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“A weaker cast, the best ones left early, problems before the series started. Its lost momentum this week as well, with Thursday's a poor episode. I thought it would be much lower last night.”
“A weaker cast, the best ones left early, problems before the series started. Its lost momentum this week as well, with Thursday's a poor episode. I thought it would be much lower last night.”
All these things just mean it's a poor show this year, not really "circumstances" which would suggest there is outside influences.
I still think IAC's main selling point is Ant & Dec, so it will carry on being a success whilst they carry on doing the show, but it has to be said this year is annoying.
Kendra was given far too much air-time, and bringing in the x-factor reject just stinks of trying to prop up X-factor. In the end Jake will probably win, yet would he have if he'd been put in a year later? I doubt it teeny-boppers are going to vote for the flavour-of-the-month,
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