so on the consolidated ratings x factor is only actually 1 million behind SCD.

Thanks DMN

The fact that this has been a relatively weaker series 10.2/10.3m av at the end is not too bad. Its still top reality show, but ITV need to look after it to make sure this remains.

Why would the sleb one cost much more money, they don't actually have Jolie and Pitt on last night it was some authors of various fame.

In the end, the argument is that the show gets well over 4 million on Saturdays, over 3 on weekdays, so your kitten thing seems somewhat specious.

We often how ratings will shape up next year after a poor 2014. My prediction for the ratings winner will be England in the final of the RUWC, which as it's in England and peak time could attract 17 million, also mostly ABC1 male viewers that ITV find so hard to attract. I know its hypothesis, but I'm sure England will go all out in this tournament.
I think BBC One will continue to be the most popular channel, expect over 10 million tuning into their biggest hits GBBO and SCD, and shows like TV, DW and CTM attracting over 7 million. EE will continue its slow decline, possibly falling to 6 million by the end of the year.
ITV, apart from the RUWC, will probably find it hard going again. The RUWC is likely to mess up TXF, which I think could sink towards 6 million. Stars In Their Eyes will probably do a Splash opposite TV and sink below 4 million. BGT is likely to remain thier biggest show and maybe a rejig of IAC with some big names tempted to appear could push it back to 10 million. Also there's likely to be big cull of underperforming shows like Surprise Surprise and Catchphrase and breakfast will undergo yet another unsuccessful revamp. Again the two ITV soaps are likely to lose ground again, with Emmerdale regularly getting less than 6 million and Corrie below 7 million. However, DA should continue to be the big drama hit, pulling in 8 million, and DCI Banks and Broadchurch will be goos for 5-6 million.
On the smaller channels, Channel 4 should get a regular 4 million for Benefits St and Googlebox will continue to be a big hit, a new series of Top Gear on BBC Two will continue to be a ratings smash for the channel, and Channel 5 should stay steady, I predict 2 million for CBB and 1.5 million for BB, with the Aussie soaps and CSI attracting similar figures. Also the move of European football to BT Sport in August could see 2-3 million a match if Man U qualify.

That Strictly elimination..


Back up over 3m again, without Man United. Clearly wasn't just the Scousers delighted with Chelsea losing their unbeaten record.

Presumably they don't block record the celeb ones and they'll still have significant celeb appearance fees - eight in total - which the punter ones won't have.

If they're not block recording, or even doing only two celeb shows a day, that's your budget blow up, right there.

My general argument is that, God help us if we can't have a mix of cheap, middling and expensive shows in the schedules. No mention from Osman that Tumble also cost an absolute fortune.... Funny that.

Quite a few examples of Pointless Celebrities doing well on its own and with no SCD and a week before the return of The Voice.

Tom Daley's Splash! returned to ITV with 4.76 million viewers, according to overnight data.
Pointless partially dented the return of Splash!, as actors from the likes of Grange Hill and Waterloo Road took part in a celebrity school-themed edition, attracting 5.87 million viewers (25.2%) from 7pm to 7.45pm.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...oXLKZuhufHJdDx

Yes they do

Do they? At the same volume as the daytime shows? In which case, I'm amazed.

A primetime BBC One ent show on a budget of 40-odd thousand....?

Very true but what he failed to mention was Your Face sounds familiar which was live every week (£££). I believe he worked on it behind the scenes and it featured Alexander as a contestant. It was beaten by repeats of ..................Pointless celebrities

I think BBC One has sorted out Saturday nights in January and February with TV and Pointless Celebrities after a terrible start to 2013. Remember the first series of Splash only did well as the alternative was Richard Hammond's Secret Service. TV hasn't been as big as the BBC would like, but it still averages out at 7 million.
ITV seems to do best in the spring and autumn on Saturdays when SNT, BGT, TXF and iAC are being shown.

They do it's the same set up as the daytime version. It's The Chase and Tipping Point which has a different production schedule for the Celeb primetime versions as they add an audience. As we know both versions of Pointless have a live audience

Splash as competition, that is seemingly the reason why. Remember Britain's Brightest, the most tedious of game shows headed towards 5m (peaking over 5.5m) in 2013, hell even YBF was over 4.5m. Its no wonder the older generation chose PC over Splash.

Everything is boosted (unless its awful) in January. Viewers flock back to TV.

Wasn't SNT quite a bit down this year on the return series of 2013?

Fair enough. I'm still trying to find the original x8 twitter quote. I'm pretty sure it was Osman talking about how cheap Pointless was compared to X Factor, or BGT, or one of those biggies.

it would have been brilliant seeing all the clichés gone.
IMHO Getting Dannii back would have been more logical instead of Mel B she really is awful. I know Sam Bailey got a lot of stick for the mediocre nature of last series but has this series been any better?

Theme week another relic that has no place and new original acts not the same Generic sludge they keep pumping out year on year. Cowell is so convinced he has the perfect plan for Xfactor its still not registered the show flopped in America because the guy cant change the format.

I think Simon convinces himself the format goes through a series of Changes year on year but the reality is its the same format it was when they started and it seems the acts are getting weaker in the process

Problem with the X Factor is they lost the three fun acts that even the judges said the show would be lost without. Only the Young and Stevie with Stereokicks for the younger audience. Remember when Same Difference made the final - they were never going to win but they were fun. To be honest I've fast forwarded the X Factor for the three acts aboves performances even if it was to laugh at them!

Strictly meanwhile is gearing up to be a great final. No idea who will win and the standard must be beyond the producers hopes. Brilliant casting again in a year when it could have had the 'Brucie effect' and lost some audience.

Just finally I can imagine IAC will do well tonight because of who is left and no one really knowing who will win. I'd love the irony of Jake winning - especially to see Mel's smacked arse face!!

It got 5m the year before against Saturday Night Takeaway in March iirc. First it was Strictly boosting it and now it's splash and the weather. Anymore excuses it was just 12 months ago you were telling us that Splash was the hit of 2013...... I wonder if you'll be throwing Jekyll and Hyde under the bus just as quick?

To keep it simple, I don't think anything has ended up year-on-year on ITV except DCI Banks and Vera. Everything else has come back down.

A shame after last year but ITV seemed to try then. It's as though they forgot to come back after Christmas 2013.

I know, but didn't post anything, but against Corrie it should do very well.

i'm surprised it's only 24 episodes. With it's low budget look i thought it would be about 240

Would moving X Factor back a couple of months boost ratings? If ITV started showing the auditions etc in late Oct instead of late August. It would see the live shows start around Xmas and then continue into February (like Pop Idol 1 did).

ITV would take a hit in Sep/Oct, but they could use the time to develop new shows etc. Ad revenues etc are obviously much less lucrative in Jan/Feb, but it would solve ITV's huge problem of how to fill winter weekends. It would mean the Winner's Song wouldn't be vying for Xmas No 1, but that's never referred to as an aim of the show now anyway.

Of the weekday version they just ordered 110 new ones, so that's two years worth.

Clare Balding has opted to cover the Boat Race for the BBC rather than the Grand National for C4 next year. She will work for nine days for C4 rather than the 40 this year and will cover only Cheltenham and Royal Ascot.Nick Luck will assume the role of lead presenter for C4. Balding is also confirmed to front the 2016 Paralympics in Rio for C4.

- Mail on Sunday

Under the current XFactor contract they probably can't do anything significant, but I would launch the show at the same time as Strictly (end of September), and shorten all sections of the show, putting 10 into the live finals. I'd use the whole of Sept to launch new shows.

12 week run - four auditions, 1 bootcamp week, 7 lives