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Old 12-10-2014, 11:06
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Looks like Strictly failed to reach the target rating last night. The BBC won't be happy with that. Looks like the overly bloated show with 5 judges and all the good dancers at the end, didn't work out.
Only 0.1m down from the internal target.

XF starting at 7.30pm limited SCD's ratings potential. If the last hour hadn't faced XF, the peak for it wouldve got 10 million. Good news that XF is moving later next week which will help boost SCD between 7.30 to 8 pm as it will have a bigger free run against the likes of celebrity chase.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:06
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Doctor Who deserved a nice rise for last night's episode which was one of the best so far, the first time I properly love Capaldi in the role.

Only 0.1m down from the internal target.
There is no target. Drop the act Samuel!
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:06
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Absolutely most important rating of the night for me and nice to see it over 5m again.
totally agree.
bloody loved last nights episode
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:06
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I think maybe some people didn't bother with The X Factor as it was already an hour into the show and decided to catch up either post Who or today instead.

Last night's episode was the best in the series for me so I'll be interested to see what happens next week.

I agree could the audience also have felt the episode gripped them more and it added more overnight viewers.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:06
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TVRatingsUK: Saturday night ratings:
#StrictlyComeDancing - 8.65m/39.2% (DOWN 1.2m)
#TheXFactor - 7.66m/33.2%
You were saying Samuel??
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:07
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The hour long clash really hurt both shows. Will post the 5 minute breakdown of I can later, but Strictly was going up and up until 7.30. X Factor gained viewers once Strictly was over, but then lost quite a few of them...
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:07
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For reference...

15:50 - The Great British Bake Off Final: 915k (8.9%)
Approaching 14m now...

We have to remember with Strictly's decline that it had 30 minutes additional clash in it's peak period which would have stalled it's natural increase. We'll see what happens next week but I think ITV have been stupid to move The X Factor back to 8pm and running past 10pm.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:07
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End of the day, no one knew the live shows of XF were going to be so brilliant; so its overnight shouldn't be expected to magically be up. It's going forward from last night's excellent and well-received show that will indicate if there's life in the old dog yet.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:08
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It might have had something to do with it being a theme night - people know to expect props galore and some silly costumes that detract from the dance (all of which we got)
Or maybe people are finally tiring of the repetitive format. A 1.2m loss year on year is worrying for the BBC. Questions need to be asked. Have they chosen the right presenter to replace Brucie? If next year follows the same pattern they will be in X Factor territory in terms of falling viewers. The X Factor's steep decline meanwhile seems to have halted.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:09
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Anything for The Chase yet?
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:10
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The hour long clash really hurt both shows. Will post the 5 minute breakdown of I can later, but Strictly was going up and up until 7.30. X Factor gained viewers once Strictly was over, but then lost quite a few of them...
Thanks for the figures as usual, ronant.

I guess The X Factor suffered the usual 9pm drop off which doesn't bode quite so well for next week.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:10
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The hour long clash really hurt both shows. Will post the 5 minute breakdown of I can later, but Strictly was going up and up until 7.30. X Factor gained viewers once Strictly was over, but then lost quite a few of them...
The problem for XF is that the audience levels rise straight after SCD finishes. But the audience level then starts dropping from about 9.15 pm onwards. So there's only really a half an hour window between 8.30 to 9pm when XF really has a good free run.

Itv starting XF later next week will help boost XF slightly but worth remembering that the 10.20 finish won't do it any favours. SCD will hopefully see a nice boost next week with such a small overlap.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:10
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XF down half a million from last year, not good. SCD was down but that was from a high base level. XF was down from a low base level.
In that case, for fair comparison, X Factor is down 5-6%, SCD is down 12%. X Factor would have had to have 7.1m or less to have performed 'worse' year on year.

Just to also throw in for your information, last year, X Factor was 18% below SCD, this year it is 12% below SCD. Both fell but the gap is narrowing. X Factor isn't falling quite as much.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:11
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In that case, for fair comparison, X Factor is down 5-6%, SCD is down 12%. X Factor would have had to have 7.1m or less to have performed 'worse' year on year.

Just to also throw in for your information, last year, X Factor was 18% below SCD, this year it is 12% below SCD. Both fell but the gap is narrowing. X Factor isn't falling quite as much.
Very true, and that's before the inevitable gains it will see off the back of last night's well-executed and entertaining first live show.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:11
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Two comments there - many people on the SCD forum feel that that this is the strongest lineup for some time, in that there are quite a number of celebs showing promise and/or talent (rather than simply one outstanding celeb and a couple of contenders). Secondly, there always have to be a few duffers, otherwise you would get people complaining that xxxx should not have been eliminated in show 2, 3 or 4. Sometimes a duffer can gain incredible support if they can be seen to be progressing and/or have a very good partnership, even if they never become a real contender.

And of course, there simply has to be the acknowledged comedy celeb who tries their hardest (this time it seems to be Scott Mills)
Yes this is true. We will see how the final figures all add up with previous series. There isn't much difference in the type of contestant. I just wonder if its an awful lot for the audience to stick with through a couple of hours and it might have an adverse effect on its ability to get peak ratings.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:11
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Or maybe people are finally tiring of the repetitive format. A 1.2m loss year on year is worrying for the BBC. Questions need to be asked. Have they chosen the right presenter to replace Brucie? If next year follows the same pattern they will be in X Factor territory in terms of falling viewers. The X Factor's steep decline meanwhile seems to have halted.
IF this decline is repeated over the next couple of weeks, then maybe there is a case to answer. Whether that would then be down to a repetitive format (which, in truth, they keep on messing with anyway by introducing new dances, being more free with the interpretation of the rules, having more & more silly props, songs that really don't suit the dance, and costumes that are much more about the theme or the song than the dance itself).
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:13
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Anything for The Chase yet?
Only 2.7 m for the chase, very poor. That is the power of SCD. A few weeks ago it was getting 4m. But SCD has shaved off a million from the chases figures.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:13
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Doctor Who deserved a nice rise for last night's episode which was one of the best so far, the first time I properly love Capaldi in the role.


There is no target. Drop the act Samuel!
I think last nights episode he spoke more than all the other episodes put together.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:13
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Yes this is true. We will see how the final figures all add up with previous series. There isn't much difference in the type of contestant. I just wonder if its an awful lot for the audience to stick with through a couple of hours and it might have an adverse effect on its ability to get peak ratings.
I think the key issue is the performance order. People are going to soon suss out that the also rans perform in the first half and the favourites in the second which could then hurt the first half of future shows. It needs a shake up.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:15
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The other thing is X Factor, aside from starting halfway into Strictly, has some pretty mean competition during its entire run - even Casualty at the end. Strictly has NOTHING to bother it.

That's two facts that are going to naturally damage it that have nothing to do with its quality. Yes a lot of people are tired of these shows, it will have naturally lost viewers to that too, but it seems to me the other factors are bigger.

Now imagine if ITV actually turned up and gave X Factor a strong lead in that doubly boosted the show and ate into Strictly. The mind boggles..
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:17
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Big loss for Strictly but of course media will still make out X Factor to look bad and Strictly good. X Factor really have no excuses not to win tonight with live performances from Taylor Swift and Pharell against a pre recorded show..
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:17
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I think the key issue is the performance order. People are going to soon suss out that the also rans perform in the first half and the favourites in the second which could then hurt the first half of future shows. It needs a shake up.
They could have easily cut half an hour from its running time, by taking stock of who they particularly wanted for the strongest programme.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:18
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The BBC will be happy that Itv are retreating with XF and moving it back to 8pm. SCD peaked with 9.3m against XF, but if it had been airing against Celebrity Chase between 7.30-8pm last night, that peak would've been at least a million more. And that would've boost SCD's average to about 9.3m or so.

XF starting as early as 7.30pm, limited SCD's ratings potential last night equally as much as XF's ratings potential was limited. Next week when XF moves later, both shows will be up. But SCD will probably be up more because it's in a better slot than XF's late 10.20pm finish. The XF may get a boost for only clashing against SCD for 15mins rather than 65mins, but that 10-10.20pm period wont do it any favours.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:19
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Strictly need to put Claudia as the main presenter and relegate Tess to the points. Bruce had star quality for me. Plus there was a run of 5 very bland performers in the middle which tempted me to turn over to see its rival as I felt I was waiting for the main event of Doctor Who.

Donny Osmond was atrocious.
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Old 12-10-2014, 11:19
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Do they? I thought they didn't. My bad... is it overnights.tv that doesn't include it?
Tweets from Overnights.tv tend to split out the +1 rating like DS.

For reference...

15:50 - The Great British Bake Off Final: 915k (8.9%)
Thanks D.M.N.,, I was going to ask for that. We'll have to keep an eye on how much that consolidates, stealing timeshift from Wednesday.

Do you have Mrs Brown's Boys (22:45) and Armageddon (23:15) please?
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