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Three - disappointing initial tests
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chenks
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“2Mbps on 4G? That is bad.”

yep 3 tests, and none managed to even reach 2Mbps down.
Gigabit
28-10-2014
wavejock is gonna have a field day in this thread...
chenks
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“wavejock is gonna have a field day in this thread...”

is he the O2 fanboy?
if he is then i'll be telling him that O2 is just as bad in the city, and O2 coverage is piss poor elsewhere.
Thine Wonk
28-10-2014
OP is this in a phone, or another device? it it tethering? have you tested a couple of different speedtest servers?
chenks
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“OP is this in a phone, or another device? it it tethering? have you tested a couple of different speedtest servers?”

screenshots clearly show it's a phone.
i said i was in sauchiehall street in glasgow at the time.
3 tests done using 2 different servers.
Thine Wonk
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by chenks:
“screenshots clearly show it's a phone.
i said i was in sauchiehall street in glasgow at the time.
3 tests done using 2 different servers.”

Ah ok, that is a shame. I guess it's worth testing for a little longer just in case, but maybe EE is an option for you? more money but their 4G is in a much later rollout phase due to bigger investment in 4G and starting earlier.
chenks
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Ah ok, that is a shame. I guess it's worth testing for a little longer just in case, but maybe EE is an option for you? more money but their 4G is in a much later rollout phase due to bigger investment in 4G and starting earlier.”

EE - over priced, crap monthly limits, wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.
we use them for our mobile devices at work and their 3G/HSPA data network isn't all that great considering they claim to have the biggest network.

only reason i'm still with O2 is that i'm still on an old legacy unlimited data package at £12pm (with discounts).
as a Three sim only deal would be a similar cost also with unlimited data then they are the only network i would consider moving to.
jabbamk1
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by chenks:
“EE - over priced, crap monthly limits, wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.
we use them for our mobile devices at work and their 3G/HSPA data network isn't all that great considering they claim to have the biggest network.

only reason i'm still with O2 is that i'm still on an old legacy unlimited data package at £12pm (with discounts).
as a Three sim only deal would be a similar cost also with unlimited data then they are the only network i would consider moving to.”

Do you get 4G on that o2 deal?
chenks
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by jabbamk1:
“Do you get 4G on that o2 deal?”

no, as any change to my O2 account would result in me loading my legacy unlimited data package. 4G didn't exists when i took that package.
Jack_Wilson2
28-10-2014
My location

Download Speeds

Three UK - 20-30meg
EE - 10-25meg
O2 - 4meg
Vodafone - 0.03meg
chenks
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by Jack_Wilson2:
“My location

Download Speeds

Three UK - 20-30meg
EE - 10-25meg
O2 - 4meg
Vodafone - 0.03meg”

that's very nice for you, however your location is not really relevant to me.....
Jack_Wilson2
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by chenks:
“that's very nice for you, however your location is not really relevant to me.....”

Speeds vary upon location but it'll contribute to the way you overall see the networks.
jonmorris
28-10-2014
Almost 25Mbps at Heathrow Terminal 2 today (airside). There must be cells within the airport for this. Surprisingly no 4G though.
chenks
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by Jack_Wilson2:
“Speeds vary upon location but it'll contribute to the way you overall see the networks.”

indeed they do... but falling below 2Mbps on 4G?
chenks
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“Almost 25Mbps at Heathrow Terminal 2 today (airside). There must be cells within the airport for this. Surprisingly no 4G though.”

with 25Mbps who needs 4G!
Jack_Wilson2
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by chenks:
“with 25Mbps who needs 4G!”

No doubt congestion.
jabbamk1
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by chenks:
“no, as any change to my O2 account would result in me loading my legacy unlimited data package. 4G didn't exists when i took that package.”

Ah well. Still a good deal. Would be cool if they upgraded you for free.
steffangl
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by chenks:
“no, as any change to my O2 account would result in me loading my legacy unlimited data package. 4G didn't exists when i took that package.”

You might be able to add the 4G access bolt-on for £5 a month though. This would not change the tariff or the discounts. Just a thought in case you're interested.
chenks
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by steffangl:
“You might be able to add the 4G access bolt-on for £5 a month though. This would not change the tariff or the discounts. Just a thought in case you're interested.”

nope, not interested in specifically paying extra to get 4G.
i'm specifically testing Three to see how their network coverage compares to O2.
that fact that 4G is included as standard with Three is an added bonus.
jonmorris
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by chenks:
“with 25Mbps who needs 4G!”

True, but I'm still surprised.
Nick_Challis
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by The Sack:
“Hillsborough is in the middle of a "strong" 4g area on Three but i have never seen it either in the stadium or in the wide open space that is the Wednesdayite car park.

The maps a bit of an arse i think.”

I remember tweeting with delight from Hillsborough on a 4G connection when Simon Church buried that header for us, stopping you from having your Sheffield derby!!
The Sack
29-10-2014
Originally Posted by Nick_Challis:
“I remember tweeting with delight from Hillsborough on a 4G connection when Simon Church buried that header for us, stopping you from having your Sheffield derby!!”

Oh well, at least we didn't have to suffer the indignity of losing to them.
chenks
31-10-2014
do Three and O2 share masts?
Three have a 4G are down here in Ayrshire, and suspiciously O2 also have the same 4G area (according to their coverage maps anyway).
carnivalist
01-11-2014
It is nuts that this sort of problem exists in the first place. IMO this nonsense about company A not having reception in Town B and company B not having reception in town A is a glaring example of one of the basic flaws of capitalism, namely a tendency to unnecessary duplication. It's one thing when a society's resources are used to produce a hundred different floor cleaners all doing exactly the same thing, but when it comes to something that is rapidly becoming a near-essential, like the mobile phone network, it's quite another.

Many people who are hardly dyed-in-the-wool Marxists are fiercely critical of Rail privatisation as a service that is not best served by a naked free-market approach, yet even there nobody would suggest that each Train Operating Company build there own rail network connecting the same cities.

In these days of uber neo-liberal orthodoxy, I fully expect to get flamed to death, but in my idea of a sane world the mobile network would be a public one, or at least a national private one like BT's, with companies providing the services all using the same network and competing on price as well as other benefits and services and not simply reception. (And on that note imagine if the landline industry had always been privately owned and had evolved in the same way as the mobile industry, with each operator having it's own individual cabling which duplicated that of its rivals).

That would at least produce a more sensible market for those who get off on that sort of thing - consumers wouldn't be forced to stick with a company they hated simply because nobody else could give them a signal in the Back of Beyond.
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