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Old 06-10-2014, 21:06
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Would you feel morally comfortable if Dean gets away?

I feel as if I'd only be comfortable watching EastEnders if Dean is killed, kills himself or goes to prison. Since we know he's not going to prison, him dying is the only two options.

I don't want to be left in the dark with this storyline. I don't want one day to see Dean walk away from the square and be done with it. If that happened I think I'd forever feel uncomfortable watching Linda and the Carter's scenes, and I would go as far to say I'd stop watching. I'm already feeling tingly about the storyline.

What do you hope to happen to Dean? Should there be justice?
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Old 06-10-2014, 21:11
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He should really be arrested and prosecuted. Having watched it, I am forced to admit that it is sadly a power/control oriented rape rather than him losing control sexually. What he did is unforgivable and my heart goes out to poor Linda but at the same time I don't feel the kind of hatred and anger I did with Finn, Frank, Trevor, Graham or Archie - I just feel nothing towards the character of Dean now. I can't blame Mick for going beserk when he finds out but at the same time I agree with posters who say he is mentally ill and needs psychiatric help. As for where the storyline goes I don't know - I'm leaving that to the writers.
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Old 06-10-2014, 21:19
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He should really be arrested and prosecuted. Having watched it, I am forced to admit that it is sadly a power/control oriented rape rather than him losing control sexually. What he did is unforgivable and my heart goes out to poor Linda but at the same time I don't feel the kind of hatred and anger I did with Finn, Frank, Trevor, Graham or Archie - I just feel nothing towards the character of Dean now. I can't blame Mick for going beserk when he finds out but at the same time I agree with posters who say he is mentally ill and needs psychiatric help. As for where the storyline goes I don't know - I'm leaving that to the writers.
Certainly, and that's what saddens me. He put Linda in a state and he doesn't realise. He thought it was consensual the way he whispered "don't worry, I won't tell".
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Old 06-10-2014, 21:19
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I feel happier if the police were involved

I hate this vigilante stuff
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Old 06-10-2014, 21:22
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Oops, I voted 'no' by mistake. Should have read the poll question and not just the thread title...
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Old 06-10-2014, 21:34
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Justice should definitely be served. For part of the episode I was actually feeling sorry for him, but when it came to the rape, there was no way that he could believe she consented.
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Old 06-10-2014, 21:36
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Certainly, and that's what saddens me. He put Linda in a state and he doesn't realise. He thought it was consensual the way he whispered "don't worry, I won't tell".
It saddens me too.

I agree - he's delusional all right.
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Old 06-10-2014, 21:37
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Justice should definitely be served. For part of the episode I was actually feeling sorry for him, but when it came to the rape, there was no way that he could believe she consented.
If he does believe it, he's insane. She clearly said no.

BIB - Me too.
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Old 06-10-2014, 21:37
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As this is a fictional programme, with a team of writers dictating its fate it wont affect my morals at all which ever way.

Rape is a horrendous crime but so is murder and they have plenty of murderers dotting around the square.
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Old 06-10-2014, 21:44
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I really wish they hadn't done this. I find Dean a really interesting character and now he is ruined. But it's alright we still have Peter Beale. Yawn.

I voted no, he should pay for his crime.
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Old 06-10-2014, 21:44
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Dean should rot in prison rapist!!!!!!
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Old 06-10-2014, 21:45
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As this is a fictional programme, with a team of writers dictating its fate it wont affect my morals at all which ever way.

Rape is a horrendous crime but so is murder and they have plenty of murderers dotting around the square.
Rape is worse imo. There is sometimes more grey area with taking a life.
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Old 06-10-2014, 21:48
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Rape is worse imo. There is sometimes more grey area with taking a life.
Unless its murder from self defence then imo rape and murder are on par.
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Old 06-10-2014, 21:55
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Rape is worse imo. There is sometimes more grey area with taking a life.
Except Dean doesn't feel guilty. He thinks it was consensual, harmless sex. That's the disturbing thing about it.
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Old 06-10-2014, 22:02
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Truth is so many rapes go unreported, and of them very few reach trial and lead to convictions, rapists can just resume with their lives.

With no witnesses, Linda has just bleached away any evidence that could have gotten Dean prosecuted. It would be unrealistic if he was put away as it would be a his word against hers case and a jury would probably dismiss the case considering Sharon and Nancy believe she has kissed Dean.

I'm hoping the scenes of Dean walking the Square as normal will show women that unless you report a rape straight away your rapist can continue his life.
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Old 06-10-2014, 22:19
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What do you mean by getting away with it? As in not going to prison? Then yes, I'd like him to "get away with it". And no, I'm not supporting rape in any way, shape or form, but as mentioned in this topic already, this happens to a lot of people in real life. Not all rapes get reported and Dean is clearly messed up in the head because he thinks it was consensual. DTC wants to make Eastenders more dark and gritty and this is the perfect opportunity by having Dean evade prison. Whether something else happens to him is another thing.
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Old 06-10-2014, 22:54
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I wouldn't be morally uncomfortable with any outcome, it's only a tv show. Obviously in the real world all rapists should be in jail, preferably for the rest of their, hopefully miserable, lives. But in tv I think it'd be interesting to see someone get away with it long term, I've never seen it in a programme before. Not in some dreadful taunting panto villain fashion, that'd be awful and shockingly insensitive. But handled sensitively it could be good.
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Old 06-10-2014, 23:04
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Of course there should be justice for all rape victims, but the truth is they very rarely get it. Even if their case gets to court many are made out to be liars and then have to watch their attacker walk away free, whilst they are left humiliated and degraded a second time.
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Old 06-10-2014, 23:06
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Except Dean doesn't feel guilty. He thinks it was consensual, harmless sex. That's the disturbing thing about it.
I agree, and as you said that's disturbing but I don't see what that has to do with me thinking that sexual crimes are worse than murder. I know a dead person can't be brought back to life but the horrendous nature of a sexual crime is far worse imo.
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Old 06-10-2014, 23:07
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I wouldn't be morally uncomfortable with any outcome, it's only a tv show. Obviously in the real world all rapists should be in jail, preferably for the rest of their, hopefully miserable, lives. But in tv I think it'd be interesting to see someone get away with it long term, I've never seen it in a programme before. Not in some dreadful taunting panto villain fashion, that'd be awful and shockingly insensitive. But handled sensitively it could be good.
I agree. I always thought rape should get life though in Dean's case he should have psychiatric treatment too.
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Old 06-10-2014, 23:33
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I hope Dean dosen't die because then I would feel cheated, but I hope he doesn't get sent to prison either. I thinks that's too easy. I'm not supporting rape, but having Dean kill himself or someone else kills him, or him being sent to prison is an easy way out. Of course all rapists should be jailed to get justice, but it rarely happens as mentioned earlier in the thread. Dean is clearly messed up & judging by how he was in tonight's EE he needs help & quickly. I hope this SL means we find out what happened in prison (like Sean shoving his head down the toilet etc.) & other forms of abuse & that he gets help, but I also hope Linda gets justice. The effect Dean left on her afterwards was very shocking, I was slightly disturbed by the shower scene & the bleach but it all makes for excellent viewing. After this the Carters be ripped apart for sure.

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Old 06-10-2014, 23:55
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I agree, and as you said that's disturbing but I don't see what that has to do with me thinking that sexual crimes are worse than murder. I know a dead person can't be brought back to life but the horrendous nature of a sexual crime is far worse imo.
What if someone is killed in a really awful way though?
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Old 07-10-2014, 00:03
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Rape is worse imo. There is sometimes more grey area with taking a life.
True. Killing in self defence is justified in my opinion but rape can never, ever be justified.
Truth is so many rapes go unreported, and of them very few reach trial and lead to convictions, rapists can just resume with their lives.

With no witnesses, Linda has just bleached away any evidence that could have gotten Dean prosecuted. It would be unrealistic if he was put away as it would be a his word against hers case and a jury would probably dismiss the case considering Sharon and Nancy believe she has kissed Dean.

I'm hoping the scenes of Dean walking the Square as normal will show women that unless you report a rape straight away your rapist can continue his life.
Spot on post! It took a year for me to report my rape by a gang and any evidence was long gone. They have got away with it.
Of course there should be justice for all rape victims, but the truth is they very rarely get it. Even if their case gets to court many are made out to be liars and then have to watch their attacker walk away free, whilst they are left humiliated and degraded a second time.
Exactly. Not only that but some rape victims are prosecuted for "lying". This puts people off reporting rape. Being disbelieved and made out to be a liar just heaps more misery onto the victim while the rapist feels power and control just like when they raped.
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Old 07-10-2014, 01:14
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I agree, and as you said that's disturbing but I don't see what that has to do with me thinking that sexual crimes are worse than murder. I know a dead person can't be brought back to life but the horrendous nature of a sexual crime is far worse imo.
Agreed. It's something you must live with.
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Old 07-10-2014, 01:44
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It would be realistic. Most rapes go unpunished and in fact unreported. Not everything in drama has to have a pleasing outcome.
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