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Would you feel morally comfortable if Dean gets away? |
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41 | 68.33% |
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10 | 16.67% |
| It doesn't matter |
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9 | 15.00% |
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EE: Should justice be served?
Would you feel morally comfortable if Dean gets away?
I feel as if I'd only be comfortable watching EastEnders if Dean is killed, kills himself or goes to prison. Since we know he's not going to prison, him dying is the only two options. I don't want to be left in the dark with this storyline. I don't want one day to see Dean walk away from the square and be done with it. If that happened I think I'd forever feel uncomfortable watching Linda and the Carter's scenes, and I would go as far to say I'd stop watching. I'm already feeling tingly about the storyline. What do you hope to happen to Dean? Should there be justice? |
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He should really be arrested and prosecuted. Having watched it, I am forced to admit that it is sadly a power/control oriented rape rather than him losing control sexually. What he did is unforgivable and my heart goes out to poor Linda but at the same time I don't feel the kind of hatred and anger I did with Finn, Frank, Trevor, Graham or Archie - I just feel nothing towards the character of Dean now. I can't blame Mick for going beserk when he finds out but at the same time I agree with posters who say he is mentally ill and needs psychiatric help. As for where the storyline goes I don't know - I'm leaving that to the writers.
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He should really be arrested and prosecuted. Having watched it, I am forced to admit that it is sadly a power/control oriented rape rather than him losing control sexually. What he did is unforgivable and my heart goes out to poor Linda but at the same time I don't feel the kind of hatred and anger I did with Finn, Frank, Trevor, Graham or Archie - I just feel nothing towards the character of Dean now. I can't blame Mick for going beserk when he finds out but at the same time I agree with posters who say he is mentally ill and needs psychiatric help. As for where the storyline goes I don't know - I'm leaving that to the writers.
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I feel happier if the police were involved
I hate this vigilante stuff |
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Oops, I voted 'no' by mistake. Should have read the poll question and not just the thread title...
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Justice should definitely be served. For part of the episode I was actually feeling sorry for him, but when it came to the rape, there was no way that he could believe she consented.
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Certainly, and that's what saddens me. He put Linda in a state and he doesn't realise. He thought it was consensual the way he whispered "don't worry, I won't tell".
I agree - he's delusional all right. |
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Justice should definitely be served. For part of the episode I was actually feeling sorry for him, but when it came to the rape, there was no way that he could believe she consented.
BIB - Me too. |
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As this is a fictional programme, with a team of writers dictating its fate it wont affect my morals at all which ever way.
Rape is a horrendous crime but so is murder and they have plenty of murderers dotting around the square. |
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I really wish they hadn't done this. I find Dean a really interesting character and now he is ruined. But it's alright we still have Peter Beale. Yawn.
I voted no, he should pay for his crime. |
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Dean should rot in prison rapist!!!!!!
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As this is a fictional programme, with a team of writers dictating its fate it wont affect my morals at all which ever way.
Rape is a horrendous crime but so is murder and they have plenty of murderers dotting around the square. |
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Rape is worse imo. There is sometimes more grey area with taking a life.
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Rape is worse imo. There is sometimes more grey area with taking a life.
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Truth is so many rapes go unreported, and of them very few reach trial and lead to convictions, rapists can just resume with their lives.
With no witnesses, Linda has just bleached away any evidence that could have gotten Dean prosecuted. It would be unrealistic if he was put away as it would be a his word against hers case and a jury would probably dismiss the case considering Sharon and Nancy believe she has kissed Dean. I'm hoping the scenes of Dean walking the Square as normal will show women that unless you report a rape straight away your rapist can continue his life. |
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What do you mean by getting away with it? As in not going to prison? Then yes, I'd like him to "get away with it". And no, I'm not supporting rape in any way, shape or form, but as mentioned in this topic already, this happens to a lot of people in real life. Not all rapes get reported and Dean is clearly messed up in the head because he thinks it was consensual. DTC wants to make Eastenders more dark and gritty and this is the perfect opportunity by having Dean evade prison. Whether something else happens to him is another thing.
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I wouldn't be morally uncomfortable with any outcome, it's only a tv show. Obviously in the real world all rapists should be in jail, preferably for the rest of their, hopefully miserable, lives. But in tv I think it'd be interesting to see someone get away with it long term, I've never seen it in a programme before. Not in some dreadful taunting panto villain fashion, that'd be awful and shockingly insensitive. But handled sensitively it could be good.
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Of course there should be justice for all rape victims, but the truth is they very rarely get it. Even if their case gets to court many are made out to be liars and then have to watch their attacker walk away free, whilst they are left humiliated and degraded a second time.
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Except Dean doesn't feel guilty. He thinks it was consensual, harmless sex. That's the disturbing thing about it.
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I wouldn't be morally uncomfortable with any outcome, it's only a tv show. Obviously in the real world all rapists should be in jail, preferably for the rest of their, hopefully miserable, lives. But in tv I think it'd be interesting to see someone get away with it long term, I've never seen it in a programme before. Not in some dreadful taunting panto villain fashion, that'd be awful and shockingly insensitive. But handled sensitively it could be good.
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I hope Dean dosen't die because then I would feel cheated, but I hope he doesn't get sent to prison either. I thinks that's too easy. I'm not supporting rape, but having Dean kill himself or someone else kills him, or him being sent to prison is an easy way out. Of course all rapists should be jailed to get justice, but it rarely happens as mentioned earlier in the thread. Dean is clearly messed up & judging by how he was in tonight's EE he needs help & quickly. I hope this SL means we find out what happened in prison (like Sean shoving his head down the toilet etc.) & other forms of abuse & that he gets help, but I also hope Linda gets justice. The effect Dean left on her afterwards was very shocking, I was slightly disturbed by the shower scene & the bleach but it all makes for excellent viewing. After this the Carters be ripped apart for sure.
Roll on EE Tuesday.
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I agree, and as you said that's disturbing but I don't see what that has to do with me thinking that sexual crimes are worse than murder. I know a dead person can't be brought back to life but the horrendous nature of a sexual crime is far worse imo.
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Rape is worse imo. There is sometimes more grey area with taking a life.
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Truth is so many rapes go unreported, and of them very few reach trial and lead to convictions, rapists can just resume with their lives.
With no witnesses, Linda has just bleached away any evidence that could have gotten Dean prosecuted. It would be unrealistic if he was put away as it would be a his word against hers case and a jury would probably dismiss the case considering Sharon and Nancy believe she has kissed Dean. I'm hoping the scenes of Dean walking the Square as normal will show women that unless you report a rape straight away your rapist can continue his life. Quote:
Of course there should be justice for all rape victims, but the truth is they very rarely get it. Even if their case gets to court many are made out to be liars and then have to watch their attacker walk away free, whilst they are left humiliated and degraded a second time.
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I agree, and as you said that's disturbing but I don't see what that has to do with me thinking that sexual crimes are worse than murder. I know a dead person can't be brought back to life but the horrendous nature of a sexual crime is far worse imo.
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It would be realistic. Most rapes go unpunished and in fact unreported. Not everything in drama has to have a pleasing outcome.
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