Colin and Erin's dances have been missing from YouTube for a long time but now some kind person has uploaded a few. I was watching them earlier today, the rumba, the waltz, the foxtrot, the quickstep ... It's hard to believe he came from a non-dancing, non-performing background. Surely, there was never a celeb, in the history of Strictly, who was more robbed than Colin in the final?
Colin Jackson - The Most Robbed Strictly Celeb Ever?
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for sure, IMO the best dancer never to have won it - sadly all down to a lousy lazy cheezy showdance
If anything robbed him, it was Erin's choice of the dancing dolls in the showdance.
That still horrifies me.
That still horrifies me.
Can't argue with any of that. He'd knock spots off all of these stage school kids. 
Andy Turner - another sprint hurdler - retired this summer. Would LOVE to see him on SCD to avenge the Rightful Winner of SCD3.
*Fold her arms Les Dawson style*.
Andy Turner - another sprint hurdler - retired this summer. Would LOVE to see him on SCD to avenge the Rightful Winner of SCD3.
*Fold her arms Les Dawson style*.
Absolutely! I can still remember him and that daft Erin coming out with dummies strapped to them. Up until then he was the runaway winner. What a gentleman to let her do that kiss of death routine.
Originally Posted by mad_madge_morri:
“Absolutely! I can still remember him and that daft Erin coming out with dummies strapped to them. Up until then he was the runaway winner. What a gentleman to let her do that kiss of death routine.”
“Absolutely! I can still remember him and that daft Erin coming out with dummies strapped to them. Up until then he was the runaway winner. What a gentleman to let her do that kiss of death routine.”
Wasn't that imposed by the producers?
Originally Posted by mad_madge_morri:
“Absolutely! I can still remember him and that daft Erin coming out with dummies strapped to them. Up until then he was the runaway winner. What a gentleman to let her do that kiss of death routine.”
“Absolutely! I can still remember him and that daft Erin coming out with dummies strapped to them. Up until then he was the runaway winner. What a gentleman to let her do that kiss of death routine.”
I thought it was received wisdom that Darren Gough was - and had been for some time - miles ahead in the voting. Hence the showdance was irrelevant.
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“If anything robbed him, it was Erin's choice of the dancing dolls in the showdance.
That still horrifies me.”
“If anything robbed him, it was Erin's choice of the dancing dolls in the showdance.
That still horrifies me.”
It was awful, but wouldn't have made a difference. It's one of those Strictly Myths!
Darren Gough wrote about it in his autobiography and her was so far ahead before the show dance, Colin could never have made up the gap.
Originally Posted by henrywilliams58:
“Wasn't that imposed by the producers?”
“Wasn't that imposed by the producers?”
Never heard that before - do tell?
Originally Posted by chachachavvy:
“Colin and Erin's dances have been missing from YouTube for a long time but now some kind person has uploaded a few. I was watching them earlier today, the rumba, the waltz, the foxtrot, the quickstep ... It's hard to believe he came from a non-dancing, non-performing background. Surely, there was never a celeb, in the history of Strictly, who was more robbed than Colin in the final?”
“Colin and Erin's dances have been missing from YouTube for a long time but now some kind person has uploaded a few. I was watching them earlier today, the rumba, the waltz, the foxtrot, the quickstep ... It's hard to believe he came from a non-dancing, non-performing background. Surely, there was never a celeb, in the history of Strictly, who was more robbed than Colin in the final?”
I'm a Colin obsessive (no... really? I'd never have guessed - you keep it so quiet) but I'd be less twitchy/bitter/resentful/repetitive/annoying about his lack of win if he'd lost out to Zoe Ball. I could have coped with that. It's less that I feel he should have had automatic claim on the glitterball (although I kind of do
) than the fact that he lost out to Darren bloody Gough (other middle names in the same vein are available).I do not particularly blame the muppet dance though. Colin would have lost even if he'd pulled a Tom Chambers showdance out of the bag. The viewers were obsessed with Darren's blokey demeanour, his partnership with Lilia and his journey all the way from week one to week two. I blame Len. Utterly. Airy fairy... pfftttttt... (git).
Yes robbed, the Mr Pastry routine with the dummies didn't help but it seems that Darren Gough was so popular with the voters that he would have won no matter how well Colin and Erin danced. Zoe Ball was also robbed that year because she was even better than Colin.
However, I feel Gabby Logan was just as hard done by. She could have been good enough to win in 2007 based on ability and hard work. Indeed, I think she could have been one of the best celeb dancers ever on Strictly.
However, I feel Gabby Logan was just as hard done by. She could have been good enough to win in 2007 based on ability and hard work. Indeed, I think she could have been one of the best celeb dancers ever on Strictly.
I think all the winners of all the series have deserved it. They are who the public liked the most after all and whose routines they enjoyed the most.
Zos was a very desperate luvvie with bad ballroom gapping and a couple of dodgy latins, and Colin had some skippy foot faults, so it is not like they were perfect.
And the showdance made no difference.
Zos was a very desperate luvvie with bad ballroom gapping and a couple of dodgy latins, and Colin had some skippy foot faults, so it is not like they were perfect.
And the showdance made no difference.
Originally Posted by nancy1975:
“I think all the winners of all the series have deserved it. They are who the public liked the most after all and whose routines they enjoyed the most.
Zos was a very desperate luvvie with bad ballroom gapping and a couple of dodgy latins, and Colin had some skippy foot faults, so it is not like they were perfect.
And the showdance made no difference.”
“I think all the winners of all the series have deserved it. They are who the public liked the most after all and whose routines they enjoyed the most.
Zos was a very desperate luvvie with bad ballroom gapping and a couple of dodgy latins, and Colin had some skippy foot faults, so it is not like they were perfect.
And the showdance made no difference.”
100% agreed with all of the above. Colin was a very gifted dancer (and the content he had in those gimmick, prop free days of Strictly is truly amazing) so I certainly would have voted for him over the waltzing wardrobe had I been watching back then. But the public's choice won and therefore he wasn't robbed. The losing finalist/s never are because democracy reigns in the final. Austin Healey on the other hand was utterly robbed by the judges of a semi final place as they tried to do to the eventual winner in the semis as well. That was the year of daylight robbery! Still
after all these years!
Originally Posted by missfrankiecat:
“100% agreed with all of the above. Colin was a very gifted dancer (and the content he had in those gimmick, prop free days of Strictly is truly amazing) so I certainly would have voted for him over the waltzing wardrobe had I been watching back then. But the public's choice won and therefore he wasn't robbed. The losing finalist/s never are because democracy reigns in the final. Austin Healey on the other hand was utterly robbed by the judges of a semi final place as they tried to do to the eventual winner in the semis as well. That was the year of daylight robbery! Still after all these years!”
“100% agreed with all of the above. Colin was a very gifted dancer (and the content he had in those gimmick, prop free days of Strictly is truly amazing) so I certainly would have voted for him over the waltzing wardrobe had I been watching back then. But the public's choice won and therefore he wasn't robbed. The losing finalist/s never are because democracy reigns in the final. Austin Healey on the other hand was utterly robbed by the judges of a semi final place as they tried to do to the eventual winner in the semis as well. That was the year of daylight robbery! Still
after all these years!”
Series 6 was a bit of a shambles really when it comes to dance off's/ judges favourites etc. The John Sargeant thing I don't think helped either
Originally Posted by yohinnchild:
“Series 6 was a bit of a shambles really when it comes to dance off's/ judges favourites etc. The John Sargeant thing I don't think helped either”
“Series 6 was a bit of a shambles really when it comes to dance off's/ judges favourites etc. The John Sargeant thing I don't think helped either”
It didn't, but there was no excuse for the judges/production team over reaction to that one either. It wasn't a new phenomenon - they had had equally inept dancing from Kate Garraway the previous season and she lasted for weeks to their fury but went in the end, as the popular poor dancers usually do, without being forced out. It seemed like the judges were just on steroids in Season 6 for some inexplicable reason.
Originally Posted by missfrankiecat:
“100% agreed with all of the above. Colin was a very gifted dancer (and the content he had in those gimmick, prop free days of Strictly is truly amazing) so I certainly would have voted for him over the waltzing wardrobe had I been watching back then. But the public's choice won and therefore he wasn't robbed. The losing finalist/s never are because democracy reigns in the final. Austin Healey on the other hand was utterly robbed by the judges of a semi final place as they tried to do to the eventual winner in the semis as well. That was the year of daylight robbery! Still after all these years!”
“100% agreed with all of the above. Colin was a very gifted dancer (and the content he had in those gimmick, prop free days of Strictly is truly amazing) so I certainly would have voted for him over the waltzing wardrobe had I been watching back then. But the public's choice won and therefore he wasn't robbed. The losing finalist/s never are because democracy reigns in the final. Austin Healey on the other hand was utterly robbed by the judges of a semi final place as they tried to do to the eventual winner in the semis as well. That was the year of daylight robbery! Still
after all these years!”
You could argue (and many do and have... often
) that Gethin Jones wuzrobbed the previous year as well. He may not have beaten (and imo certainly shouldn't have) Alesha but it's quite likely that he was the public's choice to go through in the semi-final. We'll never know but we can speculate. *leaves enormous can of worms open and wriggling in middle of thread*
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“
Never heard that before - do tell?”
“
Never heard that before - do tell?
”
The producers select the music, determine the choreography and pick the props.
Originally Posted by tabithakitten:
“You could argue (and many do and have... often) that Gethin Jones wuzrobbed the previous year as well. He may not have beaten (and imo certainly shouldn't have) Alesha but it's quite likely that he was the public's choice to go through in the semi-final. We'll never know but we can speculate. *leaves enormous can of worms open and wriggling in middle of thread*”
“You could argue (and many do and have... often
) that Gethin Jones wuzrobbed the previous year as well. He may not have beaten (and imo certainly shouldn't have) Alesha but it's quite likely that he was the public's choice to go through in the semi-final. We'll never know but we can speculate. *leaves enormous can of worms open and wriggling in middle of thread*”
Agree. But the difference seems to me that, although Alesha may have been lower than the two fit men in the public vote before the final, there was never the feeling that she was as lacking in public popularity as Lisa Snowden undoubtedly was in dance off after dance off and Rachel too, to a lesser extent. And although I was not an Alesha fan, I recognise that she became a very popular winner and, I think was, a better dancer than Gethin and Matt. Lisa Snowden, on the other hand, for all Len may tell us was the greatest ballroom dancer ever, was really not all that.
Originally Posted by henrywilliams58:
“The producers select the music, determine the choreography and pick the props.”
“The producers select the music, determine the choreography and pick the props.”
Not back then they didn't. The pros used to select the music, determine the choreography and we saw a prop once in a blue moon - and even then there would be complaints.
As the thread's wheeling that way, here's a list of all the celebs who might have been top of the public vote the week they were eliminated :
Alex Jones
Austin Healey
Brian Capron
Craig Kelly
Gethin Jones
John Barnes
Kenny Logan
Mathematically speaking that is.
Alex Jones
Austin Healey
Brian Capron
Craig Kelly
Gethin Jones
John Barnes
Kenny Logan
Mathematically speaking that is.
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“If anything robbed him, it was Erin's choice of the dancing dolls in the showdance.
That still horrifies me.”
“If anything robbed him, it was Erin's choice of the dancing dolls in the showdance.
That still horrifies me.”
I don't think it made a bit of difference. In those days you could vote through the week too, so the gap would of been too big. Also the lines shut just after that dance and how many people would have voted but then didn't because of that?
No, Darren had already won that.
Someone else I liked was Austin Healey was an amazing dancer too, oh and Racheal Stephans was so amazing never to win!
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Not back then they didn't. The pros used to select the music, determine the choreography and we saw a prop once in a blue moon - and even then there would be complaints.”
“Not back then they didn't. The pros used to select the music, determine the choreography and we saw a prop once in a blue moon - and even then there would be complaints.
”
Sadly Eriin came up with that one herself.
She said she saw it in Blackpool (I think) and thought it was a really good idea. The costume woman said she was shocked when she came to her with the idea and she couldn't believe it.
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