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Old 09-10-2014, 22:48
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I was sat in my study tonight with a glass of champagne thinking about my favourite soaps when a thought struck me out of the blue. Is Declan Macey, Emmerdale's resident sex god psychopath, actually more of a true East Ender than the cast of the BBC Soap?

Let's consider the evidence.

Declan:
-a true grafter. He built up his business despite floozies and corpses flinging themselves at him and rose from the ashes following his breakdown.
-has a good sense of family values. Loves his sister and nephew, adored his wife for a time and desperately wants a child.
-a real down to earth kind of bloke.

East Enders:
-lazy. Have no desire to increase their social or professional status.
-don't seem to understand the importance of family, enjoying the odd bit on incest here and there.

What do you think? All contributions welcome.
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Old 09-10-2014, 22:53
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Declan really is a top bloke by all measures. I'm glad he's come back to sort them all out. His choice of weapon really is second to none as well in his last 5 or 6 episodes he's had everything from from axes for his wife, poison for his step-son, flare guns to kill his nephew and the real thing to hold his sister at gunpoint. He could certainly show those lousy Eastenders a thing or two.

I won't have a bad word said against him.
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Old 09-10-2014, 22:58
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I was sat in my study tonight with a glass of champagne thinking about my favourite soaps when a thought struck me out of the blue. Is Declan Macey, Emmerdale's resident sex god psychopath, actually more of a true East Ender than the cast of the BBC Soap?

Let's consider the evidence.

Declan:
-a true grafter. He built up his business despite floozies and corpses flinging themselves at him and rose from the ashes following his breakdown.
-has a good sense of family values. Loves his sister and nephew, adored his wife for a time and desperately wants a child.
-a real down to earth kind of bloke.

East Enders:
-lazy. Have no desire to increase their social or professional status.
-don't seem to understand the importance of family, enjoying the odd bit on incest here and there.

What do you think? All contributions welcome.
As opposed to the Dingles who are completely disgusted at the thought of sleeping with a relative?

I also disagree that no one in eastenders has ambition, Sonia trained to be a nurse. Johnny is studying to be a lawyer. Phil and Ian are both succesful businessmen with their empires.
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Old 09-10-2014, 23:05
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Declan really is a top bloke by all measures. I'm glad he's come back to sort them all out. His choice of weapon really is second to none as well in his last 5 or 6 episodes he's had everything from from axes for his wife, poison for his step-son, flare guns to kill his nephew and the real thing to hold his sister at gunpoint. He could certainly show those lousy Eastenders a thing or two.

I won't have a bad word said against him.
Deccers didn't intend to poison Noah. He wasn't to know that Noah would steal the wine. It was meant to be for Charity, Noah just got caught in the cross fire bless him.
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Old 09-10-2014, 23:07
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Deccers didn't intend to poison Noah. He wasn't to know that Noah would steal the wine. It was meant to be for Charity, Noah just got caught in the cross fire bless him.
My mistake, he's an even better bloke than I thought he was.
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Old 09-10-2014, 23:09
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Whats with all the Emmerdale fans starting anti EE topics tonight? all insecure or something?
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Old 09-10-2014, 23:13
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Whats with all the Emmerdale fans starting anti EE topics tonight? all insecure or something?
This isn't an anti EE thread. This is a healthy, intellectual debate amongst thoughtful people about the true nature of 'Proper East End', a topic which seems to grip the forums on a regular basis. All proper philosophical like, this.
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Old 09-10-2014, 23:16
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Whats with all the Emmerdale fans starting anti EE topics tonight? all insecure or something?
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Old 09-10-2014, 23:20
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slighty off topic but Aunt Sal, always looked like a Corrie character caught up in the wrong soap to me.
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Old 09-10-2014, 23:39
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He is too well spoken for east end
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Old 10-10-2014, 03:09
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How come Declan and Megan have majorly different accents? They are supposed to be siblings!
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Old 10-10-2014, 06:47
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This isn't an anti EE thread. This is a healthy, intellectual debate amongst thoughtful people about the true nature of 'Proper East End', a topic which seems to grip the forums on a regular basis. All proper philosophical like, this.
Really? You made subtle digs at Eastenders for being incestuous and in regards to the
Characters just being idle layabouts which is in fact incorrect. Out of Interest do you watch Eastenders at all?
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Old 10-10-2014, 08:13
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Really? You made subtle digs at Eastenders for being incestuous and in regards to the
Characters just being idle layabouts which is in fact incorrect. Out of Interest do you watch Eastenders at all?
I watch the omnibus if there's nothing else on, and I tend to enjoy it.
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Old 10-10-2014, 08:14
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It's a bit weird how many southerners we have in northern soaps in comparison to how many northerners we have on EE.
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Old 10-10-2014, 08:27
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Lol yup they always do... in the ED discussion thread too, we, you know discuss the ep not slating ED 24/7... I don't know what the problem is...
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Old 10-10-2014, 09:24
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Lol yup they always do... in the ED discussion thread too, we, you know discuss the ep not slating ED 24/7... I don't know what the problem is...
PMSL really? even in ED threads they constantly bash EE ?!

hahaha Emmerdale fans must be very bitter if that is how they have to behave. You don't see fans of the other soaps acting like that. Its funny
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Old 10-10-2014, 10:07
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Stay on topic please folks.
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Old 10-10-2014, 10:40
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Declan doesn't have a cockney accent, he has an "Esturary" accent, like someone from Essex and outer London. Trust me, I'm a cockney and have grown up with the genuine article. When Declan was in Cutting It, he has a Northern accent. Shows he is a bl**dy good actor!

Speaking of accents in Emmerdale, why do Diane and Val have differing accents? Half the Dingles speak differently to the other half. The only "family" that had the same accents were Wor Kerry and Wor Amy pure North East Geordie. Being a Southerner, I'm not sure which accents there should be in a Yorkshire soap.
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Old 10-10-2014, 10:49
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Declan doesn't have a cockney accent, he has an "Esturary" accent, like someone from Essex and outer London. Trust me, I'm a cockney and have grown up with the genuine article. When Declan was in Cutting It, he has a Northern accent. Shows he is a bl**dy good actor!

Speaking of accents in Emmerdale, why do Diane and Val have differing accents? Half the Dingles speak differently to the other half. The only "family" that had the same accents were Wor Kerry and Wor Amy pure North East Geordie. Being a Southerner, I'm not sure which accents there should be in a Yorkshire soap.
Yorkshire accents
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Old 10-10-2014, 10:52
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Examples?
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Old 10-10-2014, 11:34
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Old 10-10-2014, 11:39
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He's nothing compared to the lovely Steph, Alan's mad cockney daughter.
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Old 10-10-2014, 11:39
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Oh God no. I'd have to stop watching. I'd prefer Yorkshire accents like the ones in Game of Thrones. I know that most of them are put on, but they sound quite nice.
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Old 10-10-2014, 11:41
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Oh God no. I'd have to stop watching. I'd prefer Yorkshire accents like the ones in Game of Thrones. I know that most of them are put on, but they sound quite nice.
'Eee bah gum Charity, I'm going to kill yoo' doesn't have quite the same ring to it!
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Old 10-10-2014, 11:48
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ForGodsSake, please no. The man is a complete prat, even his name is a fake. Give me some better example than him.

OK a poster further down has given me the answer, apparently it is eeh by gum, but I thought that was only a Lancashire accent!
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