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Old 10-10-2014, 22:17
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That's how I sum things up. HMV tried moving them to the front of the shop but people still buy DVD's. No high street stores stock Blu Ray it's always the quirky latest £9.99 releases on DVD at till at supermarkets. Blu Ray will always be a premium and probably replaced by digital. Ironically I invested early in Blu Ray however the fact movies can be bought weeks before Blu Ray release and they don't even have digital iTunes copies with them now..I just buy SD on ITunes which is more than good enough picture quality.

Blu Ray has been around a few years now and costs still remain above DVD. For that reason it's always going to be a luxury.
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Old 10-10-2014, 23:41
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. Blu Ray will always be a premium and probably replaced by digital.
What on earth are on about ?

DVD is digital (In fact uses the same compression codec as Digital SD TV (mpeg2).

Blu-ray uses BD or H264/AVC digital compression (The latter being used by HD broadcast channels).

Analogue broadcasting ceased in the UK in 2012. The last analogue recording device being tbe VCR,

http://www.ukfree.tv/fullstory.php?storyid=1107052038

Welcome to the 21st century. The next step up is 4K recordings (4 times the resolution of Blu-ray).

Whatever you are using to watch TV it must be capable of using a digital source,

If you cannot see the difference between digital DVD at 720 x 576 and blur-ray at 1920 x 1080 I suggest the following,

1 Make an appointment at speccsavers

2 Connect the player to the TV using a digital interconnect (HDMI). Scart is an analogue connection, it can only work at SD resolutions)
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Old 11-10-2014, 02:26
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What on earth are on about ?

DVD is digital (In fact uses the same compression codec as Digital SD TV (mpeg2).

Blu-ray uses BD or H264/AVC digital compression (The latter being used by HD broadcast channels).

Analogue broadcasting ceased in the UK in 2012. The last analogue recording device being tbe VCR,

http://www.ukfree.tv/fullstory.php?storyid=1107052038

Welcome to the 21st century. The next step up is 4K recordings (4 times the resolution of Blu-ray).

Whatever you are using to watch TV it must be capable of using a digital source,

If you cannot see the difference between digital DVD at 720 x 576 and blur-ray at 1920 x 1080 I suggest the following,

1 Make an appointment at speccsavers

2 Connect the player to the TV using a digital interconnect (HDMI). Scart is an analogue connection, it can only work at SD resolutions)
I can see the difference but theres no consumer demand for DVD's to end right now.
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Old 11-10-2014, 04:13
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I can see the difference but theres no consumer demand for DVD's to end right now.
That's because the new blu-ray player gets connected to the main TV.
The old DVD player gets passed to the kids' bedroom (or their TV has DVD built in).
So there is still demand for kid's programmes on DVD. Which is what you're seeing in the high street shops.
But movies that the adults want to watch on the main TV, will be purchased on blu-ray (if they've invested in at least one player).

My first DVD player cost £85 in 2002 from Tesco.
Many blu-ray players now cost much less than that. I cannot comprehend anyone paying £30+ for a new DVD player rather than stretch another £10 for a blu-ray.
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:22
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Dvd and bluray are both digital.......(and so is cd)
Bluray is superior quality to well, better than more or less anything else out there at the moment.

For SD pictures, dvd offers the best option due to the high bit rate allowed for by the capacity of the disc. This makes dvd quality passable on hd sets even though the DVD is only sd. Apart from this, sd quality via other sources tends to be sub standard and is clearly about 1 step down from DVD and at least 2 steps down from bluray (sometimes more). The bigger the screen used the more apparent the difference is as well. I also think the higher resolution your screen is (eg full hd v hd-ready) the more visible the difference becomes. So, big 50in full hd screen showing Internet feed in sd quality = looks sub standard, but same thing on a 19in hd-ready screen = looks ok.
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:58
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That's how I sum things up. HMV tried moving them to the front of the shop but people still buy DVD's. No high street stores stock Blu Ray it's always the quirky latest £9.99 releases on DVD at till at supermarkets. Blu Ray will always be a premium and probably replaced by digital. Ironically I invested early in Blu Ray however the fact movies can be bought weeks before Blu Ray release and they don't even have digital iTunes copies with them now..I just buy SD on ITunes which is more than good enough picture quality.

Blu Ray has been around a few years now and costs still remain above DVD. For that reason it's always going to be a luxury.
Bluray replaced DVD for me, purely because of the superior picture/sound quality, where the latter has just got better with the introduction of Dolby Atmos support, this will allow a 11.2.4 setup. The two/three quid premium is well worth it for me, there are occasions I have found good deals where they have worked out at the same price as a DVD. Last time I looked Bluray sales have been better than its DVD counterpart on certain titles.

When 4k Bluray gets released I'll be the first to adopt that format, hopefully by then the uncertainty about the specs will be a little closer to being finalised.
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Old 11-10-2014, 12:45
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Blu Ray has been around a few years now and costs still remain above DVD. For that reason it's always going to be a luxury.
The cost is mostly down to marketing and to a lesser extent numbers sold. The manufacturing cost differences are pretty irrelevant and very soon blu-ray will be cheaper per disc - it is already much cheaper in cost per byte so manufacturing say a 70s SD TV series is much cheaper on blu-ray.

DVDs sell better because there are a lot more DVD players out there and also because of the artificial price difference. Having said that sometimes blu-ray is cheaper such as the box set of "Supernatural" I bought recently that was £10 cheaper on blu-ray.
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Old 11-10-2014, 12:48
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Yea, the price difference now between the different disc types and the players really isn't that great anymore.
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