Sam Strike plays him like a teenage John Inman at times. It must be very disappointing to watch from the perspective of gay rights.
EastEnders: Why is Johnny Carter implied to be camper than he is?
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Well i was walking behind him once, containing myself and he seemed really macho campared to Joohnny.
Originally Posted by TrebleKing:
“Sam Strike plays him like a teenage John Inman at times. It must be very disappointing to watch from the perspective of gay rights.”
“Sam Strike plays him like a teenage John Inman at times. It must be very disappointing to watch from the perspective of gay rights.”
I'm freeeeeeeeee!
Some straight men like musicals.
Some gay men like football.
Some gay men are camp.
Some straight men are camp.
The world is filled with a mixture of people who have different likes/dislikes. There's no point trying to label people as we are far too dimensional and individual for that.
Johnny can be as macho/feminine as they like as long as they make his character consistent.
Originally Posted by CriticFan:
“I for one am glad he's not your average stereotypical camp gay guy. But i agree i do think he is playing the character wrong and should have put more research into the role.”
“I for one am glad he's not your average stereotypical camp gay guy. But i agree i do think he is playing the character wrong and should have put more research into the role.”
I feel Sam Strike doesn't really put 100% into playing a gay character, I'm so glad they haven't made him typically camp!
Originally Posted by lou_123:
“I feel Sam Strike doesn't really put 100% into playing a gay character, I'm so glad they haven't made him typically camp!”
“I feel Sam Strike doesn't really put 100% into playing a gay character, I'm so glad they haven't made him typically camp!”
I also sense this.
Originally Posted by Scrabbler:
“I'm freeeeeeeeee!
Some straight men like musicals.
Some gay men like football.
Some gay men are camp.
Some straight men are camp.
The world is filled with a mixture of people who have different likes/dislikes. There's no point trying to label people as we are far too dimensional and individual for that.
Johnny can be as macho/feminine as they like as long as they make his character consistent.”
“I'm freeeeeeeeee!
Some straight men like musicals.
Some gay men like football.
Some gay men are camp.
Some straight men are camp.
The world is filled with a mixture of people who have different likes/dislikes. There's no point trying to label people as we are far too dimensional and individual for that.
Johnny can be as macho/feminine as they like as long as they make his character consistent.”
Good post - I actually don't think Johnny is camp at all, I am guessing DTC has based Johnny on himself, so Johnny could have been DTC at 19.
Originally Posted by GeekInfected:
“He hides Dirty Dancing the film in his room, but laughs at his Uncle Dean's skinny jeans. He's acts much more macho on screen than he's ever implied to be. Is this intentional or is the actor playing the character wrong?”
“He hides Dirty Dancing the film in his room, but laughs at his Uncle Dean's skinny jeans. He's acts much more macho on screen than he's ever implied to be. Is this intentional or is the actor playing the character wrong?”
Ronnie Kray was gay - I cannot really see him poncing around with a feather duster can you?
So was Alexander the Great for that matter.
I like Johnny, he has announced he is a gay and that is that.
he hasn't done what a lot of people do and try and it their sexual preference stereotype.
he hasn't done what a lot of people do and try and it their sexual preference stereotype.
As a young gay guy, it is refreshing for me to see someone who isn't a walking stereotype that I can relate to.
Sam's portrayal breaks down barriers and assumptions that if a gay guy likes a rom com or a musical, it doesn't mean he minces to the cinema in a pair of hot pants with a chihuahua under his arm...
Sam's portrayal breaks down barriers and assumptions that if a gay guy likes a rom com or a musical, it doesn't mean he minces to the cinema in a pair of hot pants with a chihuahua under his arm...
Originally Posted by bean_of_sb:
“As a young gay guy, it is refreshing for me to see someone who isn't a walking stereotype that I can relate to.
Sam's portrayal breaks down barriers and assumptions that if a gay guy likes a rom com or a musical, it doesn't mean he minces to the cinema in a pair of hot pants with a chihuahua under his arm...”
“As a young gay guy, it is refreshing for me to see someone who isn't a walking stereotype that I can relate to.
Sam's portrayal breaks down barriers and assumptions that if a gay guy likes a rom com or a musical, it doesn't mean he minces to the cinema in a pair of hot pants with a chihuahua under his arm...”
Ronnie Kray did that a lot (in between murders).
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“Ronnie Kray was gay - I cannot really see him poncing around with a feather duster can you?
So was Alexander the Great for that matter.”
“Ronnie Kray was gay - I cannot really see him poncing around with a feather duster can you?
So was Alexander the Great for that matter.”
Firstly Johnny's sexuality has nothing to do with my post, neither does Ronnie Kray's or Alexander the Great's.
My point is Johnny is always being talked about like he is very feminine, but the actor never shows us this side on screen, which leaves me thinking he either isn't playing this well or is not being written well
The only particularly feminine thing about Johnny that I can see is his face. I don't mean he looks like a woman, he just has a delicate, babyfaced look that has a slight femininity to it.
Originally Posted by GeekInfected:
“Firstly Johnny's sexuality has nothing to do with my post, neither does Ronnie Kray's or Alexander the Great's.
My point is Johnny is always being talked about like he is very feminine, but the actor never shows us this side on screen, which leaves me thinking he either isn't playing this well or is not being written well”
“Firstly Johnny's sexuality has nothing to do with my post, neither does Ronnie Kray's or Alexander the Great's.
My point is Johnny is always being talked about like he is very feminine, but the actor never shows us this side on screen, which leaves me thinking he either isn't playing this well or is not being written well”
Isn't the word sensitive and not feminine? Two completely different things.
Originally Posted by Hankshaw:
“Isn't the word sensitive and not feminine? Two completely different things.”
“Isn't the word sensitive and not feminine? Two completely different things.”
Well you know what I mean. We've never seen the precious little sausage linda is always alluding to.
Originally Posted by GeekInfected:
“Well you know what I mean. We've never seen the precious little sausage linda is always alluding to.”
“Well you know what I mean. We've never seen the precious little sausage linda is always alluding to.”
I think that it was Linda who saw him that way for a myriad of reasons - his premature birth, his sensitivity growing up and because he was her baby that let her spoil him when Lee was away and Nancy wasn't interested in that stuff. We've seen glimpses of it, but it doesn't mean that's all he is, or all he's going to be, especially as he is only 19.
I'm probably the wrong person to defend Johnny as I'm not a fan of the character, but I think the actor has, thus far, showed us a very multi-faceted characte where he's never just one thingr. There's been sensitivity (coming out SL), teenage recklessness (running into the fire), cowardice (Sharon getting attacked), selfishness, spite (humiliating Linda), maturity (standing up for himself in the ridiculous Whitney SL), silliness, sensibility, obliviousness, awareness, the works - he's not always likeable, but he's realistic and I appreciate that.
Originally Posted by CriticFan:
“You should see Sam Strike when he isn't playing Johnny, he is actually quite bolshy and very different to the character he plays. He does put a camp touch on Jonny which i don't like.”
“You should see Sam Strike when he isn't playing Johnny, he is actually quite bolshy and very different to the character he plays. He does put a camp touch on Jonny which i don't like.”
And a rollies man too by the looks of it
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Originally Posted by GeekInfected:
“Well you know what I mean. We've never seen the precious little sausage linda is always alluding to.”
“Well you know what I mean. We've never seen the precious little sausage linda is always alluding to.”
I don't understand this comment tbh. You think that because his mum thinks of him as her precious little boy, that he should act like that? She clearly doesn't understand him all that well.
Thank GOD he doesn't act camp, we'd have another version of Sean Tully and id rather watch Hollyoaks than to have another version of Sean
Originally Posted by Whitehouse95:
“I think Dirty Dancing is a terrible film.”
“I think Dirty Dancing is a terrible film.”
Me too!
Although I can't wait for Mick to tell Phil 'No one puts Shirley in the corner!'
I think what I've understood about Johnny from this thread is that perhaps his family see him different from the way he actually is, hence why they talk about him differently from the way he is presented by Sam Strike.
Originally Posted by Scrabbler:
“I'm freeeeeeeeee!
Some straight men like musicals.
Some gay men like football.
Some gay men are camp.
Some straight men are camp.
The world is filled with a mixture of people who have different likes/dislikes. There's no point trying to label people as we are far too dimensional and individual for that.
Johnny can be as macho/feminine as they like as long as they make his character consistent.”
“I'm freeeeeeeeee!
Some straight men like musicals.
Some gay men like football.
Some gay men are camp.
Some straight men are camp.
The world is filled with a mixture of people who have different likes/dislikes. There's no point trying to label people as we are far too dimensional and individual for that.
Johnny can be as macho/feminine as they like as long as they make his character consistent.”
This.
The campest bloke I know is very much straight.
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