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The Spoiler Thread 2014 *CAUTION SPOILERS*
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Gwaed Waedlyd
12-11-2014
Originally Posted by Clackers:
“Oh interesting.

I also forgot to add Katie. Yet I have run out of weeks?

An extra double firing? 5 in the interviews?”

Easy mistake is she even there anymore apart from yelling like a sheep?
TXF0429
12-11-2014
Originally Posted by hownwbrowncow:
“I am not seeing the supposed clip of James on the negotiation task...

And I am surprised that there is a reasonable possibility that there are no team reshuffles for 6 weeks!

I really don't know why Jack thinks that the next two to go after Lauren will be Sanjay AND James. Consider that James gets fired on Task 8 for example, and then Daniel and Felipe get fired on Week 9 and then Sanjay moves to Tenacity for Week 10.

Or there could be a fourth member to the team from Week 10 that we just can't see in that photo.”

It's purely because of the fact that Solomon, Bianca and Roisin are a team of three in Week 10 (Plus it fits the edits, as Sanjay's been barely shown and James is a loose cannon)

EDIT: And not sure about James, I only got a brief glimse of the clips at the start of the show, so I'll take a look later.
hownwbrowncow
12-11-2014
Originally Posted by Clackers:
“How do you know Daniel gets fired on Week 9? What evidence do you have? Or are you speculating?”

That was just an example to demonstrate that it's not overly likely that James AND Sanjay will be the next 2 to go after Lauren.


My predictions are:

10th: Lauren (Week 7)
9th: James (Week 8)
8th: Daniel (Week 9)
7th: Felipe (Week 9)
6th: Sanjay (Week 10)

FINAL FIVE: Bianca, Roisin, Katie, Mark, Solomon
FINAL 2: Roisin and Solomon.

I fear we have another Series 4 scenario when a small number of the Final Five are actually likeable!
hownwbrowncow
12-11-2014
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“It's purely because of the fact that Solomon, Bianca and Roisin are a team of three in Week 10 (Plus it fits the edits, as Sanjay's been barely shown and James is a loose cannon)

EDIT: And not sure about James, I only got a brief glimse of the clips at the start of the show, so I'll take a look later.”

Fair enough... So do you think Week 8 will be a double?

I know it's a strange thing to say but would they really have the genders balanced so oddly for Week 9? I know they did it last year, but it was the other way round - this time we might have only 1 guy on what was originally the guys team, and 3 guys on what was the girls team.
TXF0429
12-11-2014
Originally Posted by hownwbrowncow:
“That was just an example to demonstrate that it's not overly likely that James AND Sanjay will be the next 2 to go after Lauren.


My predictions are:

10th: Lauren (Week 7)
9th: James (Week 8)
8th: Daniel (Week 9)
7th: Felipe (Week 9)
6th: Sanjay (Week 10)

FINAL FIVE: Bianca, Roisin, Katie, Mark, Solomon
FINAL 2: Roisin and Solomon.

I fear we have another Series 4 scenario when a small number of the Final Five are actually likeable!”

Makes sense to me, but I actually all like each of those Final 5 in some ways. Roisin and Solomon are also the likeliest Final 2 as things stand, IMO.
Gwaed Waedlyd
12-11-2014
I think if Bianca is final 2 the final 2 will be her and Soloman because they keep going to him when she makes a mistake and showing him picking up on her mistakes.

I still dont think Soloman will win, with his sex tape thingy I cant see Sugar picking him to win. Does he not usually film two endings and pick the winner the day before final?
hownwbrowncow
12-11-2014
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“Makes sense to me, but I actually all like each of those Final 5 in some ways. Roisin and Solomon are also the likeliest Final 2 as things stand, IMO.”

Someone suggested there were more than 2 in the final this year... I have no idea how that could work given the current format?

Perhaps either they go back to the Task in Week 11, and Interviews in Week 12 format OR they have 3 teams of 3 finalists in the final. They couldn't manage any more than that surely... But they only have four cars?!

I fear they've gone back to the Series 7 and 8 format which I really hated
Clackers
12-11-2014
It seems the teams in Week 10 are:

Solomon, Bianca, Roisin vs. Mark, Katie, Sanjay OR Daniel

I think Sanjay is more likely though, as it is unlikely Mark and Daniel will still be on the same team this far into the process - which is a bloody shame for me, as a Dan fan
TXF0429
12-11-2014
Originally Posted by hownwbrowncow:
“Someone suggested there were more than 2 in the final this year... I have no idea how that could work given the current format?

Perhaps either they go back to the Task in Week 11, and Interviews in Week 12 format OR they have 3 teams of 3 finalists in the final. They couldn't manage any more than that surely... But they only have four cars?!

I fear they've gone back to the Series 7 and 8 format which I really hated ”

I think that Frally mentioned the filming timeframes wouldn't have worked for a Week 11 regular task, so I think its the same as last year. Think people only thought that there were more than 2 in the final simply because of the number of candidates.
TXF0429
12-11-2014
Originally Posted by Clackers:
“It seems the teams in Week 10 are:

Solomon, Bianca, Roisin vs. Mark, Katie, Sanjay OR Daniel

I think Sanjay is more likely though, as it is unlikely Mark and Daniel will still be on the same team this far into the process - which is a bloody shame for me, as a Dan fan ”

I mean Daniel isn't going to win anyway, to be fair. The edit has crucified him.
Clackers
12-11-2014
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“I mean Daniel isn't going to win anyway, to be fair. The edit has crucified him.”

Oh I know. I just want him to outlast Mark, from my fanboi perspective.

Which admittedly, isn't going to happen, maybe 20% chance.
Gwaed Waedlyd
12-11-2014
The final 5 will be Mark, Katie, Bianca, Soloman and Rosline? (Base this off edits)
Sherlock_Holmes
12-11-2014
Originally Posted by hownwbrowncow:
“That was just an example to demonstrate that it's not overly likely that James AND Sanjay will be the next 2 to go after Lauren.


My predictions are:

10th: Lauren (Week 7)
9th: James (Week 8)
8th: Daniel (Week 9)
7th: Felipe (Week 9)
6th: Sanjay (Week 10)

FINAL FIVE: Bianca, Roisin, Katie, Mark, Solomon
FINAL 2: Roisin and Solomon.

I fear we have another Series 4 scenario when a small number of the Final Five are actually likeable!”

Personally, I fear that we might get the Series 4 format for the interviews/final.

As for the predictions, the final five seem indeed very likely. Would say that out of those 5, Katie is probably the one who is a bit on shaky ground (yes, she is featured in 80% of the intro clips, but she will need a stronger edit in the next few weeks).

Think that Sanjay's fate may be decided on his next PM stint and if he brings James back into the boardroom (if they are still both on team Summit and they lose). There is a new intro clip which shows Sanjay talking about people whinging, looks like he is PM and Roisin is sitting next to him (doesn't match clothes for the NYC task; see preview clip).
TXF0429
13-11-2014
I apologise for thinking I saw James on the Scavenger Hunt, it was Daniel and Felipe.

The new intro clips are as follows:

+ Daniel and Felipe entering a shop with Daniel going "Shalom" (We haven't seen it before and its not next week as Felipe goes to New York and Daniel stays at home. Seems like it wouldn't be in the Bath and West Show (unless its a product they're selling there) so I think that it could well be a Scavenger Hunt task from potentially Week 9)
+ Felipe and Lauren collapsing at the end of a selling day (That was shown tonight)
+ Katie, Daniel, Felipe and Mark in a warehouse of some sort, with Felipe arguing with Daniel it looks like (Could easily be from the Bath and West Task and Katie looks like she's trying to control it (She tells Felipe to stop), so maybe she's the Tenacity PM that week?)
+ Old clips involving Scott & Ella Jade (From Week 2)
+ Actor getting hit on the head with a basketball in NYC by Felipe (Obviously from next week)
+ Sanjay complaining about "whinging and whining" (It sounds like something a PM would say, but you can just about make Roisin next to him in the shot, so it could be from next week when they're on a sub-team together)
+ Katie and Daniel hugging at a campsite (Pretty sure this is the Bath & West Show Task)

Sadly, with the exception of the top clip, we don't seem to have any beyond the Bath & West show Task and we know Lauren goes next week and one of James and Sanjay the week afterwards, so sadly, we don't have much info. Week 9 is gonna be the crucial point. If Tenacity win, then the one of James/Sanjay that doesn't get fired in Week 8 is gone. If Summit win, then two of Tenacity will be fired and James/Sanjay will get moved over. If Tenacity lose Week 9, then Felipe and Daniel will probably go.
Or Week 8 could be a double with James and Sanjay leaving and then Felipe and Daniel go one by one in Weeks 9 and 10. It could go one of many ways, but its the last remaining double firing that's making it difficult to predict.

Agree with Sherlock that Bianca, Solomon, Roisin, Mark and Katie looks good for the Final 5, but that's dependant on a Week 10 Summit victory.
Tommo781
13-11-2014
I know everyone is sure Daniel will go soon, and I am sure they are right. But I think Pamela dropped a hint last night on You're Fired. I am guessing she knows who gets to the final. At one time last night she said "Daniel was" then quickly corrected it to "Daniel is". Just thought I would mention it.
Gwaed Waedlyd
13-11-2014
Do you think Mark would bring back Felipe and Lauren to the final boardroom? Only saying this because I cant see how Daniel would escape the boardroom after his warning last night. Plus Felipe goes to America with Mark and Lauren so it could point to him being in final boardroom.
Clackers
13-11-2014
Originally Posted by Gwaed Waedlyd:
“Do you think Mark would bring back Felipe and Lauren to the final boardroom? Only saying this because I cant see how Daniel would escape the boardroom after his warning last night. Plus Felipe goes to America with Mark and Lauren so it could point to him being in final boardroom.”

Mark only brings back Lauren next week because he heard Sugar criticise both of them for being a backseat driver. He put his balls on the line to be PM, Lauren didn't, which in Mark's world means she is likeliest to go. He is always quite the game-player, isn't he? Seems like that week he actually takes his attention off of Daniel to protect his own back, and it seems Lauren is the fall girl.

Now Week 8, do we know who is PM of Tenacity, as all things considered we probably know they win (would love it to be Daniel again 2/2 vs. Mark 0/1 LOL ), as Sanjay as Summit PM and/or James get fired.

I think we have enough evidence now to agree with the above as gospel.

It's beyond week 8 that I am a little confused about. WTF is Felipe still doing there?!
TheAuburnEnigma
13-11-2014
This is probably more suited to the Edgic thread, but I think it could go here too:

If Bianca is in the final 2, then I'm inclined to agree with the others who say that it's probably Solomon with her - he's getting a Leah/Tom P style edit at the moment (not seen much apart from when they were PM - aside from Leah in week 5 ofc - but positive when they were shown) and he had a good showing as PM on a task that suited him best.

Mark is made for the Neil Clough edit, so will go in the interviews. Katie is coming across as a Francesca (albeit more positive and with a PM win to her name), and Roisin as a slightly-more-competent Jordan.

As for Bianca, she must get a real Adam Corbally redemption arc starting from next week. She seems to be slotting into the Luisa mould, but so far she's been shown more negatively in comparison, and making more mistakes.

Next week should be interesting, will Mark get the 'sympathetic loss' edit that saw Ricky and Neil go far? Seeing as Lauren gets fired, I would presume so. But who will get brought in with her? Felipe is part of the NYC sub-team with Mark and Lauren, so could be him. He hasn't been shown much in all honesty, and I think he and Sanjay are set up to go in weeks 8 and 9 (Sanjay in week 8). It's just when James and Daniel go that is the question - is it a double firing in week 8 that sees James go as well? Or is it the case that it's a double firing the week before the interviews that results in James and Daniel leaving?

I would laugh if these predictions turn out to be completely correct
frally
13-11-2014
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“I apologise for thinking I saw James on the Scavenger Hunt, it was Daniel and Felipe.

The new intro clips are as follows:

+ Daniel and Felipe entering a shop with Daniel going "Shalom" (We haven't seen it before and its not next week as Felipe goes to New York and Daniel stays at home. Seems like it wouldn't be in the Bath and West Show (unless its a product they're selling there) so I think that it could well be a Scavenger Hunt task from potentially Week 9)

+ Katie, Daniel, Felipe and Mark in a warehouse of some sort, with Felipe arguing with Daniel it looks like (Could easily be from the Bath and West Task and Katie looks like she's trying to control it (She tells Felipe to stop), so maybe she's the Tenacity PM that week?)

+ Katie and Daniel hugging at a campsite (Pretty sure this is the Bath & West Show Task).”

The Shalom clip looks like it's from the scavenger hunt in task 9. Dan and Felipe are in a subteam and it matches the pre-BR celebration clip where Katie and Mark join them (with Mark hugging Dan!).

The "warehouse" clip is in a tent in the Royal Bath & West task. Dan is also wearing the same dark shirt when he was photographed selling in the tent/"campsite".
Sherlock_Holmes
13-11-2014
Originally Posted by TXF0429:
“+ Sanjay complaining about "whinging and whining" (It sounds like something a PM would say, but you can just about make Roisin next to him in the shot, so it could be from next week when they're on a sub-team together)”

Having watched back the preview at the end of You're Fired, I am pretty sure that this clip is from next week now (they are wearing the same clothes and are sitting in the same position in both the preview and the clip).
TXF0429
14-11-2014
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02bpqkz

From the BBC website, Felipe is the director-turned-Scorsese. Based on this clip, I think Felipe will be the third person brought into the boardroom (Looks like Mark is scapegoating him already!) meaning that that would be how Daniel escapes. Still think that based on the editing, it would be weird if we didn't have a Mark v Daniel boardroom showdown at some point, but I guess next week won't be it.

Also, as per another clip from the Apprentice website, it looks like Summit's brand name is "Big Dog":

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02bppv7

Apart from that, this next week is going to be a bit dull as we know who loses and who gets fired, but I'm gonna cook up a theory for the run-up to interviews soon!
boab34
14-11-2014
I'm really surprised that Bianca is bringing James with her to N Y considering the animosity between them

at least Mark is leaving Daniel behind lol
Sherlock_Holmes
14-11-2014
Originally Posted by boab34:
“I'm really surprised that Bianca is bringing James with her to N Y considering the animosity between them ”

Think that is actually a very smart choice when you think about it. It keeps James happy and she can watch his every move (for instance, leaving him back home with Sanjay would be sinking your own PM stint).


And here is the full description of task 8:

SERIES 10 - 8. COUNTRY SHOW

8/14. The entrepreneurs head for the countryside as they are challenged to sell a selection of products to the visitors at the Royal Bath & West agricultural show. To begin with, half of the teams pick out surefire winners in Somerset, while the rest stay behind in London to seek out innovative ideas to take the rural market by storm - although one candidate's over-enthusiasm almost causes a calamity and a case of mistaken identity scuppers a deal. The following day, the battle for sales begins, but things don't go smoothly. However, the biggest surprise is left for the boardroom.

Could this be a double firing in the making?
hownwbrowncow
14-11-2014
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“Think that is actually a very smart choice when you think about it. It keeps James happy and she can watch his every move (for instance, leaving him back home with Sanjay would be sinking your own PM stint).


And here is the full description of task 8:

SERIES 10 - 8. COUNTRY SHOW

8/14. The entrepreneurs head for the countryside as they are challenged to sell a selection of products to the visitors at the Royal Bath & West agricultural show. To begin with, half of the teams pick out surefire winners in Somerset, while the rest stay behind in London to seek out innovative ideas to take the rural market by storm - although one candidate's over-enthusiasm almost causes a calamity and a case of mistaken identity scuppers a deal. The following day, the battle for sales begins, but things don't go smoothly. However, the biggest surprise is left for the boardroom.

Could this be a double firing in the making?”

Quite possibly - it would have to be Sanjay and James though, which I can visualise with ease.
If that is the case then there are no more team reshuffles.

Week 8
Summit: James, Solomon, Sanjay, Roisin, Bianca
Tenacity: Mark, Felipe, Daniel, Katie
Fired: James and Sanjay

Week 9
Summit: Solomon, Bianca, Roisin
Tenacity: Mark, Felipe, Daniel, Katie
Fired: Felipe

Week 10
Summit: Solomon, Bianca, Roisin
Tenacity: Mark, Daniel, Katie
Fired: Daniel

If this is the case I can see the Week 9 and 10 boardrooms being very fiery

However maybe it's not a double firing...


Also what is this task?! I don't really understand!
Sherlock_Holmes
14-11-2014
Originally Posted by hownwbrowncow:
“Also what is this task?! I don't really understand!”

Think it is a similar task to the baby show task from Series 5, but with farmers instead (of babies)

And perhaps it is not a double firing, just remembered that this could be the task where Lord Sugar (in the intro) is very impressed with the victory (a very big win perhaps?).
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