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EE: Too many secrets?!
I am loving EastEnders at the moment and am enjoying the pace of it, however, I have been wondering if there are too many secrets at one time. Maybe be it would work better if they were spread over a year or so rather than having several impending reveals?!
I've counted 9 secrets: Lindas rape Mick is Shirley's son Nick is alive Alfie burnt the house down Aunt Babe knows where Shirley is Aunt Babe knows where Sylvie is Aleks Wife is on the Square Shirley shot Phil (Only a handful of people know) Who killed Lucy and the secrets linked (Her purse, Billys creepy shrine book etc) What are your thoughts? |
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I feel like Billy was hiding that for Lola.
Then again, I still think Lola's the killer. |
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Way too many!
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I love secrets!!
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I agree. It's a bit too excessive. There is also Shabnams secret to come out.
I understand what DTC is doing. Way better than too many affairs but I don't think he has struck a healthy balance just yet. Secrets are great to shock, entertain and develpe characters and arcs.It gives the writers opportunities to write some brilliant stuff. However sometimes its nice for viewers to go through all the emotions, ups and downs, journey etc with the characters. There is a bit of a over reliance with secrets at the minute. |
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Stacey's key as well
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Is the fact that Mick and Linda aren't actually married still a secret?
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I agree. It's a bit too excessive. There is also Shabnams secret to come out.
I understand what DTC is doing. Way better than too many affairs but I don't think he has struck a healthy balance just yet. Secrets are great to shock, entertain and develpe characters and arcs.It gives the writers opportunities to write some brilliant stuff. However sometimes its nice for viewers to go through all the emotions, ups and downs, journey etc with the characters. There is a bit of a over reliance with secrets at the minute. |
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I like it to be honest, we don't know what's going to happen with these secrets and mysteries and it makes the show less predictable and formulaic.
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No I LOVE it. It's the viewer's fault if they can't keep track of them all.
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We'll soon have Linda's pregnancy to contend with too.
I LOVE EE at the mo as I said but I just wonder if after a while we will eventually become desensitised from the shock value of a big reveal in the future, seeing as there are so many upcoming ones? Imagine if, at the time of the big Kat/Zoe reveal, there were several other massive secrets, would it have been so iconic? Wouldn't we have forgotten it within a few weeks as we would have moved on to the next 'big thing'. I'm sort of playing devil's advocate. |
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To be honest, soaps run on secrets. Think on most of the story lines in all the soaps, 90% of them hinge on a character keeping information from another character.
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I agree and you can have good storytelling without secrets if you care about the characters of course! - which is why some characters work out more popular than others.
Sometimes secrets can be just as good. "You aint my muvva" is the mother of all secrets and what a fantastic one that was. Danielle being Ronnie's daughter was another successful one, as was not knowing who Shot Phil, Who Killed Archie and one of my personal favourites, the fall out from Syed being gay. Therefore secrets are just as good to execute solid drama. I just think at the minute, there isn't a healthy balance. There is just too much of a reliance on keeping things hidden. I mean it can be great in developing characters, given them a backstory and getting the viewers to understand why and how they tick. This is especially true for new characters but it doesn't need to be this excessive. Personally speaking, I have no interest in the Lucy plot. As a viewer, I feel totally alienated and disconnected from it all. However, I do care about Linda's plot because I sympathise with her and I understands her reasons for keeping quite. That story at least feels character-driven. |
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There is just too much of a reliance on keeping things hidden. I mean it can be great in developing characters, given them a backstory and getting the viewers to understand why and how they tick. This is especially true for new characters but it doesn't need to be this excessive. Personally speaking, I have no interest in the Lucy plot. As a viewer, I feel totally alienated and disconnected from it all. However, I do care about Linda's plot because I sympathise with her and I understands her reasons for keeping quite. That story at least feels character-driven.
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Ronnie murdering Carl is technically still a secret since only the Mitchell clan know about it.
Shabnam also a has a secret that we're not aware of. |
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Keep them coming, most welcome, and the surprises too, love them,
I hope Mick gets a story of his own again. |
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Ian/Jane also isn't common knowledge. I think it's only Masood and Shabnam that know.
There's also Ronnie killed Carl, Jay was on the bus, Jay and Ben buried Lucy's stuff, and the rot in hell note, written by Whitney. Mick and Linda not being married is still a secret. Only Dean and Sharon know. |
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Agree with the OP. The show seems to be existing on 'secrets' storylines and have characters acting far too gullible because of it.
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