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Is Sarah the worst winning PM ever?
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george.millman
14-10-2014
I'm just thinking of all the dreadful PMs who should rightfully have been fired, but won the task on a fluke... Christopher, Melissa, Noorul... I think we may have a new champion tonight!
hownwbrowncow
14-10-2014
Very likely. She literally displayed no strategy, logic or mere common sense.

Even Noorul and Laura were better than her.

I think she'll be Noorul Mk. II.
PatheticFallacy
14-10-2014
Nobody will ever beat Melissa.
farlofan
14-10-2014
Longer she stays the better, very entertaining.
BigDaveX
14-10-2014
I think Noorul just edges her out, since she at least seemed able to make a few sales to members of the public, whereas Noorul couldn't even do that. Still, she's a very worthy runner-up.
george.millman
14-10-2014
She was so appalling that by the end I was sure there was going to be a twist where either they won or she was astonishingly good at defending herself, just because if she was fired it would be too obvious.
Cressida
14-10-2014
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“I'm just thinking of all the dreadful PMs who should rightfully have been fired, but won the task on a fluke... Christopher, Melissa, Noorul... I think we may have a new champion tonight!”

Blimey how lucky was she to be the one who got away this week.
Annsyre
14-10-2014
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“I'm just thinking of all the dreadful PMs who should rightfully have been fired, but won the task on a fluke... Christopher, Melissa, Noorul... I think we may have a new champion tonight!”

She has played a blinder. Won - and is now off the hook as leader for several weeks. There are nine other women to take their turn.
george.millman
14-10-2014
Originally Posted by Annsyre:
“She has played a blinder. Won - and is now off the hook as leader for several weeks. There are nine other women to take their turn.”

Yeah, but she may well not get much further. The other women know that she got off lightly, if she's on a losing team it only takes someone to exaggerate a reason to bring her into the boardroom and she's had it. She'd better vastly improve if she wants any chance at all.

Incidentally, imagine if she does vastly improve and by Week 8 or 9 we're all championing her to win... wouldn't that be the biggest turnaround in history?
Annsyre
14-10-2014
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“Yeah, but she may well not get much further. The other women know that she got off lightly, if she's on a losing team it only takes someone to exaggerate a reason to bring her into the boardroom and she's had it. She'd better vastly improve if she wants any chance at all.

Incidentally, imagine if she does vastly improve and by Week 8 or 9 we're all championing her to win... wouldn't that be the biggest turnaround in history?”

She is great entertainment and she now has some scores to settle with the ones who slagged her off. TV gold imo.
brb
14-10-2014
Sarah was amazing.
TXF0429
14-10-2014
Originally Posted by Annsyre:
“She has played a blinder. Won - and is now off the hook as leader for several weeks. There are nine other women to take their turn.”

Yeah but the other women already hate her. She's a sitting duck after this week if the women lose again soon.
boddism
14-10-2014
Originally Posted by Annsyre:
“She has played a blinder. Won - and is now off the hook as leader for several weeks. There are nine other women to take their turn.”

They'll stick the boot in. Her attitudes re: women in business seriously pissed off a few of the women. They'll get their chance as soon as they lose a task.
Matt_Harbinson
14-10-2014
I think Jazz from last year was worse but she was still terrible however her sub team did take the most. I couldn't understand what Felipe did either though. There was no clear business thread to this task though about costings or anything though, just mindless fire selling. I'm not impressed so far.
Tyjet
14-10-2014
Originally Posted by Matt_Harbinson:
“I think Jazz from last year was worse”

Jazz didn't win as PM.
george.millman
14-10-2014
Originally Posted by Tyjet:
“Jazz didn't win as PM.”

Good point! Also I don't think Jaz was as bad as Sarah. Jaz was at least approachable, made an effort to keep people motivated and didn't spend forever talking about thoroughly unworkable strategies (like slicing lemons) when everyone else knew that there were better ideas.
iamsofired
14-10-2014
Lets face it, being a PM isnt like managing a normal group of people who have to work together all day every day. They were all pulling faces, talking over each other and undermining every decision because its easy to subtely undermine the PM throughout thus exposing yourself to less risk of being booted.
george.millman
15-10-2014
Originally Posted by iamsofired:
“Lets face it, being a PM isnt like managing a normal group of people who have to work together all day every day. They were all pulling faces, talking over each other and undermining every decision because its easy to subtely undermine the PM throughout thus exposing yourself to less risk of being booted.”

I realise that, which is why I am willing to give people the benefit of the doubt sometimes. But that isn't an excuse for some of the things Sarah did, like waffling on about slicing the lemons which was obviously never going to work (who buys lemon slices? Could just about work with oranges, but even that's pushing it) and insisting that the girls wore make-up and short skirts. I did think that some of the team members were very rude to her actually, but that doesn't change the fact that her management was awful.
iamsofired
15-10-2014
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“I realise that, which is why I am willing to give people the benefit of the doubt sometimes. But that isn't an excuse for some of the things Sarah did, like waffling on about slicing the lemons which was obviously never going to work (who buys lemon slices? Could just about work with oranges, but even that's pushing it) and insisting that the girls wore make-up and short skirts. I did think that some of the team members were very rude to her actually, but that doesn't change the fact that her management was awful.”

Having just watched "your fired" im dialling down my level of sympathy for her
Kyle123
15-10-2014
She was so horribly bad that I even briefly considered the idea that she was a plant, specifically put there to do a terrible PM job in the first episode to get some buzz around the launch week.

I guess that's very unlikely, but seriously, she was horrific. And to think that when I saw the group shot of the cast, I for some reason clocked her as a possible frontrunner.
TXF0429
15-10-2014
Difficult to say actually. Noorul didn't make as many individual mistakes as Sarah because he didn't actually make the decisions on task - the others had to make them for him. Sarah at least tried, though, so I'd put her ahead of Noorul for that alone.
Tyjet
15-10-2014
Originally Posted by Kyle123:
“And to think that when I saw the group shot of the cast, I for some reason clocked her as a possible frontrunner.”

Probably because her outfit/hair is similar to Leah's.
iamsofired
15-10-2014
The only other thing id say is that dressing "sexier" and being flirty with the opposite sex has been going on for years in sales and im pretty sure girl teams have tried it on the show before as well as the general flirting that goes on in sales tasks for both male and female groups. So I think a lot of the sniffy comments and face pulling were more to do with the undermining of the PM than anything else.
Toby LaRhone
15-10-2014
Originally Posted by Kyle123:
“She was so horribly bad that I even briefly considered the idea that she was a plant, specifically put there to do a terrible PM job in the first episode to get some buzz around the launch week.

I guess that's very unlikely, but seriously, she was horrific. And to think that when I saw the group shot of the cast, I for some reason clocked her as a possible frontrunner.”

She'd have sold you anything then
Alrightmate
15-10-2014
Sarah is an absolute gift in terms of television viewing.
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