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HO: Anyone else had enough of Dodger/Maxine/Sienna?
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ChelseaEllie
20-10-2014
Originally Posted by Emma_Henvey:
“I agree, I remember being so happy when she left and couldn't wait to see the back of her. I don't why Kirkwood wanted to write her back in, she wasn't exactly a popular character. Many people -including myself- thought she was a terrible character.

She should be rotting in jail where she belongs. I don't care how sympathetic HO are trying to portray Theresa or how there trying to make it look like Sonny set her up. She murdered a man. There's no escaping that fact. She shot him and she deserves to pay the consequences.”

Does he realise how disliked she is?
Emma_Henvey
20-10-2014
Originally Posted by ChelseaEllie:
“Does he realise how disliked she is?”

I think he does but probably doesn't care. He likes her so he's keeping her on.
qwertye
20-10-2014
Originally Posted by Multimedia81:
“I was starting to empathise with Sienna, as she had started to settle down living with Nico and having Leela as a friend. However, her framing Maxine and misleading/ embarassing Dodger has cost her her credibility again.”

I started to go off Leela then, i remember it was because she knew that Sienna was prepared to kidnap Peri but she stuck by her and told Nancy off for not giving Sienna a second chance. I started to dislike her close to the point of hatred when her and Sienna were celebrating that Sienna had gotten off.

It still irritates me that Sienna got off with everything she did but the Osbornes have been the ones to suffer for it. Nancy got a lot of abuse for wanting Sienna locked up and Peri even fell out with Tom when he told her Sienna was dangerous.
ChelseaEllie
20-10-2014
Originally Posted by Emma_Henvey:
“I think he does but probably doesn't care. He likes her so he's keeping her on.”

It just seems crazy as she can't act, and she's a nasty character, what means she should stay
Emma_Henvey
20-10-2014
Originally Posted by ChelseaEllie:
“It just seems crazy as she can't act, and she's a nasty character, what means she should stay”

I agree, terrible character played by a terrible actress. Out of all the characters who could return, why Theresa!??!?!
lolla_7
20-10-2014
They've lost the plot as far as Sienna is concerned. Anna Passey is a brilliant actress and they had the chance to develop Sienna into a good, long term character. Now we will just be biding our time until they have to write her out. There's pretty much no coming back from what they have done with her.
ameew
20-10-2014
It's getting very American soap style . HO are trying to make the show too sensationalistic and plots too complex . It's a shame because they can produce generally moving storylines , but they usually get overshadowed by the nonsense.

Maxine and Patricks domestic abuse has been overshadowed by this. John Paul's rape storyline was dropped for weeks at a time. Even Tony , who had a moving , life changing cancer storyline has now becone a sleazy love cheat, groping Sinead at every turn.
Emma_Henvey
20-10-2014
Originally Posted by lolla_7:
“They've lost the plot as far as Sienna is concerned. Anna Passey is a brilliant actress and they had the chance to develop Sienna into a good, long term character. Now we will just be biding our time until they have to write her out. There's pretty much no coming back from what they have done with her.”

I agree. It's a classic case of overusing a character. The writers probably didn't want to develop her character because they thought the audience might find her boring if she wasn't faking a pregnancy or locking kids up in basements. It's sad really, she had the potential to develop into a really good character but now she's just some boring, predictable panto villain. They'll probably just keep going round in circles until HO decide to kill her off in some big stunt or until Anna Passey decided to leave.
lolla_7
20-10-2014
At least American soaps are honest about what they are. You know what you get with them. Hollyoaks still tries to make itself out to be true to life with serious story lines. The reality is, the sensationalism has overtaken any decent storyline they have recently had. It is a shame. I have watched Hollyoaks for 14 odd years. I have stuck with it through the rough patches but it has just got too much for me.
Purple.
20-10-2014
Originally Posted by Pink_Smurf:
“I agree with you about the overshadowing of the domestic abuse storyline! The whole saga has become ridiculous. The Sienna, Nico and Dodger thing is just stupid. I like the actors and the characters, all of them but the sl itself is madness.”

Totally agree.
lady_xanax
20-10-2014
Hollyoaks just wants to have its cake and eat it. Either be a soap that deals with issues or a shock melodrama.
Emma_Henvey
20-10-2014
Originally Posted by lolla_7:
“At least American soaps are honest about what they are. You know what you get with them. Hollyoaks still tries to make itself out to be true to life with serious story lines. The reality is, the sensationalism has overtaken any decent storyline they have recently had. It is a shame. I have watched Hollyoaks for 14 odd years. I have stuck with it through the rough patches but it has just got too much for me.”

I agree. I think you make a really good point about the American soaps. At least they know what they are. The fact that HO still tries act like it's true to life is a joke
lady_xanax
20-10-2014
Originally Posted by Emma_Henvey:
“I agree. I think you make a really good point about the American soaps. At least they know what they are. The fact that HO still tries act like it's true to life is a joke ”

It's just dull as well. No one cares in the audience because no one cares in the soap. Supposed storylines will drag out for months due to coincidences and implausible lies.
Joe_Zel
20-10-2014
So a man who was beating up his pregnant girlfriend was exposed to the whole village and roams around freely, still retaining his position in a school.

But this pregnant girlfriend is locked up in prison on the say so of his exposed crazy manipulator of a daughter?

lady_xanax
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by Joe_Zel:
“So a man who was beating up his pregnant girlfriend was exposed to the whole village and roams around freely, still retaining his position in a school.

But this pregnant girlfriend is locked up in prison on the say so of his exposed crazy manipulator of a daughter?

”

It's so predictable how in Hollyoaks if a crime is committed, the perpetrator will walk around scot-free whereas the victim has excessive misery heaped onto them. I don't mind that there is an imbalance of justice but it's so ridiculous, particularly when the criminal skips around giving off evil vibes. Patrick inexplicably wears a suit all the time whereas he used to wear relatively 'normal' clothes when he wasn't at school.
D.DotA
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by lady_xanax:
“It's just dull as well. No one cares in the audience because no one cares in the soap. Supposed storylines will drag out for months due to coincidences and implausible lies.”

It's anything but dull! Speak for yourself about no one caring! It seems that the only place I see negativity towards HO is this place!
lost boy
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by Emma_Henvey:
“I agree, I remember being so happy when she left and couldn't wait to see the back of her. I don't why Kirkwood wanted to write her back in, she wasn't exactly a popular character. Many people -including myself- thought she was a terrible character.

She should be rotting in jail where she belongs. I don't care how sympathetic HO are trying to portray Theresa or how there trying to make it look like Sonny set her up. She murdered a man. There's no escaping that fact. She shot him and she deserves to pay the consequences.”

BiB - I couldn't agree more. All this "evil Sonny, how dare he try and catch his brother's murderer" claptrap Hollyoaks are trying to shove down our throats is just... ugh, it's just utter rubbish. Who on earth signed off on this?! Nobody with any sense that's for sure.

I mean:

Theresa, a murderess, wandering around free as a bird without a care in the world and we're clearly supposed to be all happy and joyful about that (never going to happen Hollyoaks, never - just so you know).

Maxine meanwhile wallows pregnant and alone in jail for a crime she didn't actually commit, and it seems they're in no hurry to get her out. A cynical person could say that this is all some sort of weird 'revenge' on the part of the Hollyoaks writers for her 'getting in the way' of Dodger and Saint Theresa, but I'm so not going to pull that thread

In the meantime, I'm skipping episodes with Theresa in - HO and BK won't care of course, reasons for this are plentiful I'm sure, but err... yeah. Not much more to add really.

Don't know why I'm so surprised by all this though - these posts pretty much say it all:

Originally Posted by Joe_Zel:
“So a man who was beating up his pregnant girlfriend was exposed to the whole village and roams around freely, still retaining his position in a school.

But this pregnant girlfriend is locked up in prison on the say so of his exposed crazy manipulator of a daughter?

”

Originally Posted by lady_xanax:
“It's so predictable how in Hollyoaks if a crime is committed, the perpetrator will walk around scot-free whereas the victim has excessive misery heaped onto them. I don't mind that there is an imbalance of justice but it's so ridiculous, particularly when the criminal skips around giving off evil vibes. Patrick inexplicably wears a suit all the time whereas he used to wear relatively 'normal' clothes when he wasn't at school.”

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