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Ballroom and Latin American Dance Questions
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Ann_Dancer
26-10-2015
Well not perfectly Jennifer. I don't have a name for the step!
victoriasponge
26-10-2015
What a fantastic thread! It is so interesting to hear what people say about dance when they really know what they are talking about.

It's made me nostalgic for the early days of Strictly when it was more about the dancing. I loved it when there were only two dances per show. You could properly compare the couples and it was always instructive to see how differently couples presented the same dance.

I liked it when Len used to be picky about the content. I enjoyed being educated about the different dances. Now so much of what they do seems to be "in the style of" rather than the actual dance.

Dumbing down - it's a terrible thing
Jennifer_F
26-10-2015
Originally Posted by victoriasponge:
“What a fantastic thread! It is so interesting to hear what people say about dance when they really know what they are talking about.

It's made me nostalgic for the early days of Strictly when it was more about the dancing. I loved it when there were only two dances per show. You could properly compare the couples and it was always instructive to see how differently couples presented the same dance.

I liked it when Len used to be picky about the content. I enjoyed being educated about the different dances. Now so much of what they do seems to be "in the style of" rather than the actual dance.

Dumbing down - it's a terrible thing ”

Welcome ! Love your username by the way... please feel free to contribute at any time
victoriasponge
26-10-2015
Originally Posted by Jennifer_F:
“Welcome ! Love your username by the way... please feel free to contribute at any time”

Thanks . Sadly I know little about the nuts and bolts of dance, always keen to learn though. So I shall follow here with interest.
Ann_Dancer
26-10-2015
Yes, welcome (one of my favourite cakes btw). Do feel free to contribute. .
JDarcy
29-10-2015
Does anyone know what the step Kellie and Kevin are practising in this weeks training video is? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpDNokNY2Zc

I recognise it but I can't remember what it's called!
Jennifer_F
29-10-2015
Originally Posted by JDarcy:
“Does anyone know what the step Kellie and Kevin are practising in this weeks training video is? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpDNokNY2Zc

I recognise it but I can't remember what it's called!”

I;m afraid I don't know either, I even danced them ages ago when I danced Latin. Will have to wait for Kaycee and/or Bendymixer. Do like these when they are done properly.
bendymixer
29-10-2015
same for me Jennifer cannot remember name and bro is out teaching they look a bit like Golpe steps in Flamenco
Jennifer_F
29-10-2015
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“same for me Jennifer cannot remember name and bro is out teaching they look a bit like Golpe steps in Flamenco”

Yes I am certain they are Flamenco, I recall doing these with the flamenco arm/hand shapes
bendymixer
29-10-2015
bro is stumped too has done them but cant recall a name but something to do with zapateado in flamenco he thinks
kaycee
29-10-2015
Originally Posted by victoriasponge:
“Thanks . Sadly I know little about the nuts and bolts of dance, always keen to learn though. So I shall follow here with interest.”

Welcome! It doesn't matter whether or not you know anything about the nuts and bolts of dance.

Please feel free to ask anything dance related that you want to know, as there will almost definitely be someone who will be happy to answer.
kaycee
29-10-2015
Originally Posted by Jennifer_F:
“I;m afraid I don't know either, I even danced them ages ago when I danced Latin. Will have to wait for Kaycee and/or Bendymixer. Do like these when they are done properly.”

Sure they have a proper name, but no idea what it is. We just called them ball-change appels - we knew what we meant even if no one else did!!!!! Not really my taste - too flamenco!
Cadiva
29-10-2015
Originally Posted by JDarcy:
“Does anyone know what the step Kellie and Kevin are practising in this weeks training video is? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpDNokNY2Zc

I recognise it but I can't remember what it's called!”

Looks like a tap step ball change variant to me but I'm sure it's not
NeenieGee
30-10-2015
Hi all, I'm newish to this forum, and to strictly and I am enjoying it so much.

I came across this video on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxnxOwlfj04 and can't stop watching it ... I love it!

I wanted to share it with you all and also to ask if the dance is a charleston. If not what style is it?

This dancer's channel has a lot of charleston which is why I ask.

Many thanks
kaycee
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by NeenieGee:
“Hi all, I'm newish to this forum, and to strictly and I am enjoying it so much.

I came across this video on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxnxOwlfj04 and can't stop watching it ... I love it!

I wanted to share it with you all and also to ask if the dance is a charleston. If not what style is it?

This dancer's channel has a lot of charleston which is why I ask.

Many thanks”

Great video - thanks for sharing. I love Ksnia, wonderful dancer. I wouldn't say the dance is Charleston, though there are a couple of elements in it. For me, it's more a mix of freestyle (not to confused with disco freestyle) and jazz.
NeenieGee
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by kaycee:
“Great video - thanks for sharing. I love Ksnia, wonderful dancer. I wouldn't say the dance is Charleston, though there are a couple of elements in it. For me, it's more a mix of freestyle (not to confused with disco freestyle) and jazz.”

Ahhh ... jazzy freestyle, I like it! Thanks Kaycee
kaycee
30-10-2015
Originally Posted by NeenieGee:
“Ahhh ... jazzy freestyle, I like it! Thanks Kaycee”

Jazzy Freestyle is as good a name as any!
gritty
31-10-2015
Thought people might be interested to see a video of real AT World Championship and the 2015 winners of the Tango Escenario (exhibition tango?) category.

Ezequiel Jesus Lopez and Camila Alegre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU_l1paL26g

Not sure what Vincent and Flavia won but they never competed at this level. Somebody correct me but I think they won a AT category within a ballroom competition.
Cadiva
31-10-2015
Originally Posted by gritty:
“Thought people might be interested to see a video of real AT World Championship and the 2015 winners of the Tango Escenario (exhibition tango?) category.

Ezequiel Jesus Lopez and Camila Alegre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU_l1paL26g

Not sure what Vincent and Flavia won but they never competed at this level. Somebody correct me but I think they won a AT category within a ballroom competition.”

They won: UK Argentine Tango Champions, 2006
IDO World Argentine Tango Finalists, 2005/2006 where they finished 3rd place overall and were winners in the Show Tango section.
Jennifer_F
31-10-2015
Originally Posted by gritty:
“Thought people might be interested to see a video of real AT World Championship and the 2015 winners of the Tango Escenario (exhibition tango?) category.

Ezequiel Jesus Lopez and Camila Alegre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU_l1paL26g

Not sure what Vincent and Flavia won but they never competed at this level. Somebody correct me but I think they won a AT category within a ballroom competition.”

I think they are 2 times IDO World Argentine Tango Show Champions.
gritty
31-10-2015
Originally Posted by Jennifer_F:
“I think they are 2 times IDO World Argentine Tango Show Champions.”

Apparently not, they only entered once and were placed 3rd. There is no IDO record of them winning the Show category but I have no doubt they did. This competition has nothing to do with the Mundial World Championship and is a organised by a general Dance Organisation.

The title UK Argentine Tango Champion was gained at a very low-key event with few entries and not a particularly high standard. This was a feeder competition for the Mundial but Vincent and Flavia did not travel to BA to compete in the main competition.

My own opinion is that they were trophy hunting in 2006 to add to their CV rather than trying to make a serious impact on the AT scene.
Jennifer_F
31-10-2015
Originally Posted by gritty:
“Apparently not, they only entered once and were placed 3rd. There is no IDO record of them winning the Show category but I have no doubt they did. This competition has nothing to do with the Mundial World Championship and is a organised by a general Dance Organisation.

The title UK Argentine Tango Champion was gained at a very low-key event with few entries and not a particularly high standard. This was a feeder competition for the Mundial but Vincent and Flavia did not travel to BA to compete in the main competition.

My own opinion is that they were trophy hunting in 2006 to add to their CV rather than trying to make a serious impact on the AT scene.”

Sorry about that. I got the info from the booking and entertainment agency site that handles F & V.
Jennifer_F
31-10-2015
Originally Posted by gritty:
“Apparently not, they only entered once and were placed 3rd. There is no IDO record of them winning the Show category but I have no doubt they did. This competition has nothing to do with the Mundial World Championship and is a organised by a general Dance Organisation.

The title UK Argentine Tango Champion was gained at a very low-key event with few entries and not a particularly high standard. This was a feeder competition for the Mundial but Vincent and Flavia did not travel to BA to compete in the main competition.

My own opinion is that they were trophy hunting in 2006 to add to their CV rather than trying to make a serious impact on the AT scene.”

Perhaps you would be better off posting in one of the AT threads as there are many AT knowledgeable people out there and I'm sure they don't visit this one, ballroom and latin based
MaggieMcGee
31-10-2015
Originally Posted by gritty:
“Thought people might be interested to see a video of real AT World Championship and the 2015 winners of the Tango Escenario (exhibition tango?) category.

Ezequiel Jesus Lopez and Camila Alegre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU_l1paL26g

Not sure what Vincent and Flavia won but they never competed at this level. Somebody correct me but I think they won a AT category within a ballroom competition.”

Thanks for the video of Ezequiel and Camila. Beautiful fluidity.
Nina_Blake
31-10-2015
What is the step called in Samba where the man and woman are side by side and take a few steps backward (obviously more complicated than I just made it sound :P )? Sometimes they'll turn 90 degrees and do the same again. Thanks all!
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