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Oooh, anyone in particular? I've always wondered about Brendan's bum sticking out in his Latin - is that normal? Tristan was doing similar tonight too. I've found Janette not great, and thought Gleb's ballroom wasn't particularly neat or tidy tonight.i
Regarding bums I think I have noticed it in some latin dancers (for ballroom dancers it should never stick out - Kristina's does a bit). However it definitely isn't a requirement for success. Here are current champions Riccardo and Yulia dancing rumba (he's wearing horrible outfit) and jive He's very very short and so his backside may be a bit ...er...rounded. Never noticed Michael Malitowski's bum either when he and Joanna were champs.www.youtube.com/watch?v=46MMysfhhW0 Www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RZ2g8Kw198 |
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they have had a real raw deal this year - costumes have been awful for most of their dances and no tail suit yet for kev.
Re tonight - what I like about Kevin is that he does the dance he is asked to do and keeps it authentic - however tonight he had lousy music and lousy costumes ( I cant see any other pro on show coping with it ) so he had to go with the theme (think it was right choice ) he did more hip hop than I would have liked but the samba they did was of a good standard and overall think they deserved their marks On a slightly different matter: Could someone shed light on the step that Anton put into the rumba that had Len smiling? I forget what it is called and I watched the rumba back to see if I could spot anything unusual but, alas, my untrained eye could not. |
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Hi bendymixer. Nice to see you here commenting on the samba. Having seen the dance in total it just about worked and I recognised enough samba steps to see how Kevin worked them into the routine. Clever choreography on his part. Kellie danced the routine very well. In fact it looked flawless to me.
On a slightly different matter: Could someone shed light on the step that Anton put into the rumba that had Len smiling? I forget what it is called and I watched the rumba back to see if I could spot anything unusual but, alas, my untrained eye could not. |
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Just wanted to add that Gleb looked less polished in his dance than usual and it's disappointing if SCD have recruited another pro who, like Janette, does not know ballroom in its entirety. I didn't like their QS particularly but I could see that Anita, as someone much smaller then Gleb, was doing well to maintain her body contact and frame.
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It was an Aida ( not 100% sure on spelling)
Do you know where it was in their routine?
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I agree with all your points. I feel really sorry for both K&K- absolutely awful costuming this year for them. Kellie hasn't had 1 full length dress yet for Ballroom and as you say, no tails for Kevin.
Re their Samba - again dreadful musical choice as it was not an authentic Samba beat - I did enjoy it for what it was. Kevin choreographed a brilliant routine to a hip hop track, it had just enough Samba content for me,and they danced it so well, very entertaining. He did what he had to do, to that particular piece of music. Agree with all of this; Kevin has just shot up in my estimation. I, like many others I think, find him a bit irritating, but he produced choreography and a performance that overcame absolutely dire music choice (surely not his own?) to deliver, as you say, a very entertaining dance. I was struck by how well the steps they did matched the 'music'. And Kellie is a bit of a trooper isn't she? She just buckles down and delivers whatever is required, on top of a full time day job. I wonder how many of the other male pro's could have delivered the goods in those circumstances - not too many I'm thinking. As for costumes - words fail me! They just got off cuts it looked like last night! When you compare the very glamorous dress Katie was given last night (in which she looked terrific btw,) it does seem quite unfair. |
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Agree with all of this; Kevin has just shot up in my estimation. I, like many others I think, find him a bit irritating, but he produced choreography and a performance that overcame absolutely dire music choice (surely not his own?) to deliver, as you say, a very entertaining dance. I was struck by how well the steps they did matched the 'music'. And Kellie is a bit of a trooper isn't she? She just buckles down and delivers whatever is required, on top of a full time day job.
I wonder how many of the other male pro's could have delivered the goods in those circumstances - not too many I'm thinking. As for costumes - words fail me! They just got off cuts it looked like last night! When you compare the very glamorous dress Katie was given last night (in which she looked terrific btw,) it does seem quite unfair. |
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So it is an aida and I believe there is an incomplete one in Katie and Anton's rumba at the 00:33 mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmeR9EeWpKs. I say incomplete because, according to a YouTube training video, they did not walk back for three steps and after the cuban rock they did not make solo spot turns. Anyone in the know please advise or correct.
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So it is an aida and I believe there is an incomplete one in Katie and Anton's rumba at the 00:33 mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmeR9EeWpKs. I say incomplete because, according to a YouTube training video, they did not walk back for three steps and after the cuban rock they did not make solo spot turns. Anyone in the know please advise or correct.
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I was just about to reply to you...beat me to it. Yes it is at the 30/31 sec mark or thereabouts. When I was taught this many years ago, I was taught with the 3 steps but someone else will have to advise if what Anton did was incomplete or not. My personal thought was that it was not a proper Aida, but we'll see what the Latin experts say. The Aida though, will only be the walks backwards, anything else cuban rocks or spot turns afterwards will be additional choreography.
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it is an aida and I believe there is an incomplete one in Katie and Anton's rumba at the 00:33 mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmeR9EeWpKs. I say incomplete because, according to a YouTube training video, they did not walk back for three steps and after the cuban rock they did not make solo spot turns. Anyone in the know please advise or correct.
Why on earth did Len get excited about an Aida? |
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Why on earth did Ken get excited about an Aida?
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On the move today and didn't watch last night. If no one responds remind me and I'll check the technique book, but it is common not to do steps exactly as described and often alternative endings are suggested. But I can check for you.
Why on earth did Len get excited about an Aida? |
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Because you know how Len likes his basics Ann
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This is very true, Anita danced quite well - feet and legs still need attention, but the overall look is still let down by Gleb in all areas of his Ballroom. I am still shocked that he needed assistance in what is VERY basic choreo and timing thereof. Hope they get through to Blackpool.
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Hi all, back with another question!
What is the step at 34 secs into K&K's samba called? http://youtu.be/5aseZU0lweE Thanks in advance |
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Hi all, back with another question!
What is the step at 34 secs into K&K's samba called? http://youtu.be/5aseZU0lweE Thanks in advance |
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Hi Nina, if I'm looking at the right part, they look like Samba rolls. You can do these in shadow also.
Thought they may have been Argentine Crosses, are these similar, or am I way off? Thanks
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Thanks Jennifer, think I'm used to them being in shadow position.
Thought they may have been Argentine Crosses, are these similar, or am I way off? Thanks ![]() |
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Just caught Gleb and Anita before I went out tonight and I agree. Also agree regarding Janette.
Regarding bums I think I have noticed it in some latin dancers (for ballroom dancers it should never stick out - Kristina's does a bit). However it definitely isn't a requirement for success. Here are current champions Riccardo and Yulia dancing rumba (he's wearing horrible outfit) and jive He's very very short and so his backside may be a bit ...er...rounded. Never noticed Michael Malitowski's bum either when he and Joanna were champs.www.youtube.com/watch?v=46MMysfhhW0 Www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RZ2g8Kw198 |
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So it is an aida and I believe there is an incomplete one in Katie and Anton's rumba at the 00:33 mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmeR9EeWpKs. I say incomplete because, according to a YouTube training video, they did not walk back for three steps and after the cuban rock they did not make solo spot turns. Anyone in the know please advise or correct.
The Aida is actually the 3 walks backwards: the couple in a side by side position, ending turning very slightly outwards. It is usually followed by 3 rocks in place, and a spot turn, but, though seldom used, the 3 rocks can be omitted. Hope that makes sense? |
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It's not so much the size of their bums but rather their posture. As not all of the pros do it, I'm guessing it's wrong (or they're right and the others are wrong). It just looks a bit weird and awkward.
Latin dancers have their weight further forward and dance using the ball of the foot, with a lot of pressure going into the floor. This alters the posture completely, and makes the backside look larger than a ballroom dancers. So you are right about the different postures, but neither of those postures are wrong; just different for the 2 different styles of dance.! And the fact is, someone who has specialised for years as a Latin dancer, is unlikely to be able to develop a ballroom posture at the drop of a hat - oh that it was that easy! |
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Yes, it was incomplete -
The Aida is actually the 3 walks backwards: the couple in a side by side position, ending turning very slightly outwards. It is usually followed by 3 rocks in place, and a spot turn, but, though seldom used, the 3 rocks can be omitted. Hope that makes sense? |
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Absolutely. The demo vid I watched had only one rock but demonstrated everything else you described. It's a nice sequence. Thanks for clarifying that.
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I think I have noticed it in some latin dancers (for ballroom dancers it should never stick out - Kristina's does a bit). However it definitely isn't a requirement for success. Here are current champions Riccardo and Yulia dancing rumba (he's wearing horrible outfit) and jive He's very very short and so his backside may be a bit ...er...rounded. Never noticed Michael Malitowski's bum either when he and Joanna were champs
Do you know where it was in their routine?