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Old 25-10-2014, 05:42
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The difference with Judy is that she's not set up as the comedy contestant as well. She's had reasonable routines and the worst prop she's had to handle was Anton in the cha cha, so I guess it's easier to laugh it off because she's maintained some of her dignity.
Fixed your post for you

Another difference is that compared to some of the viciously and horribly personal vitriol that has been aimed at Judy over the years when she appears on the tennis circuit supporting Andy, a few played-for-laughs, mildly harsh scripted judges' comments are going to seem like being licked by kittens.

Of course Scott isn't going to walk nor is he likely to stop paying lip service to Teh Fun or asking for votes, he's a good BBC boy fulfilling his contract however much he might be hating it. I've never seen anyone look so unhappy to be saved as he did on Sunday night. But accusations of "not trying" are harsh; he just isn't very good, in the same way as some people struggle with learning to spell or speak another language or drive a car.

As for the suggestion upthread of a same-sex couple...this is the BBC. It's 2014 and some people are still having an attack of the vapours because two women who have been in the business for years are presenting the show together without A Man to keep them on the straight and narrow. At this rate, apes will have taken over the planet and we'll be holidaying on Venus before we get a same-sex pairing.
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Old 25-10-2014, 06:49
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So, if I've understood you correctly, you believe that people who are taking part in a reality show are given scripted characters and scripted reactions?

Hell, yeah! You'll find that we don't disagree on those points!

How does that relate to the suggestion/accusation that a human being - who happens to be a professional dancer on SCD, while being female - is actually, genuinely, and outside of the scripting, a "wannabe Disney princess"?
Well, it doesn't take much to set me off, but I was trying to make the point that, imo, we can't possibly know anything about Joanne from watching this ludicrously over-produced nonsensical garbage on the tv. Joanne is playing a part and is most likely no more of a wannabe Disney princess than Jake Wood is. But her voice, and Pixie's, drives me mad - I'm not sure they're teaching these girls to babytalk (but I wouldn't put it past them)

ETA: I don't think I answered your question and don't know how to - I got off on the tangent of how fake it was that she named those Disney movies. Now maybe, in real life, Joanne acts like she's 7. She has the voice for it. But I doubt it - she's just willing to play along with some crackpot pantomime casting, and she's the idiot bimbo one.

And all this is closer to the point that I usually manage to get..
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Old 25-10-2014, 09:21
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If Joanne is indeed scripted for the show, that would imply her twitter reactions are also scripted (just have a look on there).
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Old 25-10-2014, 09:24
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I don't think Scott is a comedy character. On TV he isn't funny. The producers would like him to go down that route to detract from the cringeathon that constitutes watching him dance. Scott seems content to suffer and suck up to his 'celebrity pals' and wheel in cutesy-pie members of his family. Of course in a week or so he will reap the consequences but, please Scott, no nans - I'm all nanned out
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Old 25-10-2014, 13:00
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I feel the same about Judy Murray, cant dance and I thought shed be hated cause shes Scottish
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Old 25-10-2014, 13:01
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Fixed your post for you

Another difference is that compared to some of the viciously and horribly personal vitriol that has been aimed at Judy over the years when she appears on the tennis circuit supporting Andy, a few played-for-laughs, mildly harsh scripted judges' comments are going to seem like being licked by kittens.

Of course Scott isn't going to walk nor is he likely to stop paying lip service to Teh Fun or asking for votes, he's a good BBC boy fulfilling his contract however much he might be hating it. I've never seen anyone look so unhappy to be saved as he did on Sunday night. But accusations of "not trying" are harsh; he just isn't very good, in the same way as some people struggle with learning to spell or speak another language or drive a car.

As for the suggestion upthread of a same-sex couple...this is the BBC. It's 2014 and some people are still having an attack of the vapours because two women who have been in the business for years are presenting the show together without A Man to keep them on the straight and narrow. At this rate, apes will have taken over the planet and we'll be holidaying on Venus before we get a same-sex pairing.
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Old 25-10-2014, 17:15
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I posted this on the 1 - 5 Comments thread but my husband has lie detection/facial expression training. He doesn't really watch SCD but it's on as he is doing other things. He glanced over when Scott was at the judges then got up and came over to see better. He asked who he was then said he is displaying anger and contempt.

I thought that was an interesting observation.
Pretty accurate I'd say. I think Scott is wishing he had never agreed to any of this, is hating every moment and is longing to be booted off. He despises the whole thing and, considering how very bad he is (no dance ability at all) I cannot say I blame him.

I have taught a lot of people to dance, but if I had him as a pupil I'd gently suggest that he find another hobby.
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Old 25-10-2014, 17:29
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Pretty accurate I'd say. I think Scott is wishing he had never agreed to any of this, is hating every moment and is longing to be booted off. He despises the whole thing and, considering how very bad he is (no dance ability at all) I cannot say I blame him.

I have taught a lot of people to dance, but if I had him as a pupil I'd gently suggest that he find another hobby.
Just what my brother and I said - would not know where to start with him and have taught some people who were difficult over the years but he seems to be worse than any I have encountered
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Old 25-10-2014, 17:55
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Why can't he try and learn in his own time - not inflict his ego on the rest of us who want to see decent dancing?
Then why not go and watch a proper dance competition rather than a Saturday night game show?????
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Old 25-10-2014, 20:12
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Blimey! This thread is ... The words fail me. Poor Scott, I think he is doing a great job, he is not a natural but it is entertaining, we all know he isn't going to win......CHILL OUT.
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Old 25-10-2014, 21:41
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Then why not go and watch a proper dance competition rather than a Saturday night game show?????
Because there are none here where I live and I don 't go out on a Saturday night! Not all people want to go out on a Saturday (or any other day of the week). I am past the age of wanting to go out. I still say that Scott isn't and never was the right competitor for this show.
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Old 26-10-2014, 00:20
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I get the feeling Scott Mills might do a Jan Ravens when he gets voted off!
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Old 26-10-2014, 07:16
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Blimey! This thread is ... The words fail me. Poor Scott, I think he is doing a great job, he is not a natural but it is entertaining, we all know he isn't going to win......CHILL OUT.
CHILL OUT is shouting. Calm down. hth
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Old 26-10-2014, 07:18
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Actually, he seemed a lot happier this week.

Still can't dance though.
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Old 26-10-2014, 12:25
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Blimey! This thread is ... The words fail me. Poor Scott, I think he is doing a great job, he is not a natural but it is entertaining, we all know he isn't going to win......CHILL OUT.
I wouldnt exactly say poor Scott

IMO he is trying but he also thinks he is a lot better than he is, I dont like his attitude one bit
I get the impression from him that he thinks because he is not a natural dancer but tries at his dances that he should not get any bad comments about his performance/dances

IMO if he could laugh at himself more and accept that his performance is seen as a more funny embarrasing performance (as Judy seems to) instead of seeing himself as better or just as good as some other celebs I and others may have had a better opinion of him

I dont think Judy or Alison are good dancers but I see both of them enjoying their time and accepting their faults
I dont see Scott enjoying his time or accepting his faults
I see him as a person who thinks he is a tad better than others and that his opinions and faults should not be criticized

He reminds me of a child whos parents tell them they are the best ever at what they do and everyone loves them when in reality the child is pretty poor and not everyone loves them
so when the child comes up against competition and they lose they get upset and cant understand why they are not loved by everyone like mummy and daddy said they would be

we just have to wonder who has filled Scotts head with bullsh*t on just how good and popular he is
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Old 26-10-2014, 12:30
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I've listened to Scott Mills on Radio One for years. He's very professional, a confident and funny D.J. who is popular with his millions of listeners. He does look out of place, unlike most of the competitors he's had no dance training, so is a complete novice. I blame his partner, she isn't getting the best out of him, in fact the routines he gets are child-like and silly. I fear it's too late now, he may get votes but he'll never reach the same standards as the others.
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Old 26-10-2014, 12:36
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Fixed your post for you

Another difference is that compared to some of the viciously and horribly personal vitriol that has been aimed at Judy over the years when she appears on the tennis circuit supporting Andy, a few played-for-laughs, mildly harsh scripted judges' comments are going to seem like being licked by kittens.

Of course Scott isn't going to walk nor is he likely to stop paying lip service to Teh Fun or asking for votes, he's a good BBC boy fulfilling his contract however much he might be hating it. I've never seen anyone look so unhappy to be saved as he did on Sunday night. But accusations of "not trying" are harsh; he just isn't very good, in the same way as some people struggle with learning to spell or speak another language or drive a car.

As for the suggestion upthread of a same-sex couple...this is the BBC. It's 2014 and some people are still having an attack of the vapours because two women who have been in the business for years are presenting the show together without A Man to keep them on the straight and narrow. At this rate, apes will have taken over the planet and we'll be holidaying on Venus before we get a same-sex pairing.
Some might say they already have*.

*with sincere apologies to actual apes
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Old 26-10-2014, 13:12
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Blimey! This thread is ... The words fail me. Poor Scott, I think he is doing a great job, he is not a natural but it is entertaining, we all know he isn't going to win......CHILL OUT.
The problem for me is he's not entertaining, not in the slightest.

Instead he's extremely irritating, has an inflated sense of his own ability and seems to think he's entitled to much more praise than he's getting. Sorry if that seems harsh, but that's the vibe I get. And he can't really get any praise other than 'well done for trying,' because unfortunately he really can't dance.

It's completely inexplicable to me why anyone could possibly bring themselves to vote for him when he's barely put a foot right any week, and I was genuinely fearing he might drop Joanne in their American Smooth, and last night (he definitely almost dropped her then!). Hopefully he'll be in the dance-off this week, but I doubt it.

I hate the 'comedy' acts, it makes a mockery of the dancing and leads to good people going out well before their time when they could have provided us with so much more enjoyment through good dancing. Scott's had a much longer run than he deserves, but surely enough's enough before we lose someone who's actually got a chance (however slim) of winning the competition!
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Old 26-10-2014, 13:17
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I don't think Scott is a comedy character. On TV he isn't funny. The producers would like him to go down that route to detract from the cringeathon that constitutes watching him dance. Scott seems content to suffer and suck up to his 'celebrity pals' and wheel in cutesy-pie members of his family. Of course in a week or so he will reap the consequences but, please Scott, no nans - I'm all nanned out
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Old 26-10-2014, 13:24
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I wouldnt exactly say poor Scott

IMO he is trying but he also thinks he is a lot better than he is, I dont like his attitude one bit
I get the impression from him that he thinks because he is not a natural dancer but tries at his dances that he should not get any bad comments about his performance/dances

IMO if he could laugh at himself more and accept that his performance is seen as a more funny embarrasing performance (as Judy seems to) instead of seeing himself as better or just as good as some other celebs I and others may have had a better opinion of him

I dont think Judy or Alison are good dancers but I see both of them enjoying their time and accepting their faults
I dont see Scott enjoying his time or accepting his faults
I see him as a person who thinks he is a tad better than others and that his opinions and faults should not be criticized

He reminds me of a child whos parents tell them they are the best ever at what they do and everyone loves them when in reality the child is pretty poor and not everyone loves them
so when the child comes up against competition and they lose they get upset and cant understand why they are not loved by everyone like mummy and daddy said they would be

we just have to wonder who has filled Scotts head with bullsh*t on just how good and popular he is
Probably bolstered by all his celeb mates who have not actually seen his graceless attempts at whatever Joanne dare give him to do.
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Old 27-10-2014, 05:39
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It's not just the fact that he has a huge number of fans (from R1), these fans are also very loyal and it's easy to see why. He's on air every weekday, as himself. He gets to interact with people and you feel like you get to know him, he's part of people's day. I have a friend who's still chuffed that he read out her email 5 years ago lol. The other celebs don't really have anything like that so he has a distinct advantage in that regard.

I also thinks he's fully aware how bad he is and he's probably not enjoying it much anymore but he has to keep pretending...
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Old 27-10-2014, 06:34
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Some of those listeners probably don't even watch Strictly!
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Old 27-10-2014, 08:44
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Some of those listeners probably don't even watch Strictly!
So how would they know when to vote and how to vote for him?
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Old 27-10-2014, 09:19
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They probably watched once to get his number and then worked out when to phone. Also the 3 votes online would give them a clue!
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Old 27-10-2014, 09:25
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They probably watched once to get his number and then worked out when to phone. Also the 3 votes online would give them a clue!
I don't think the majority of people are sad enough to do that.
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