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Old 19-10-2014, 19:17
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The problem is that none of the creatures are ever explained anymore. I honestly
Don't remember when the last time a creature actually was explained and had a reason to invade?

The creatures that won come out until all is dead- what were they?
Those graffiti things - wtf?! Why were they on earth and what were they?
The thing in the school? The house? The. Thing from hide? The silence creatures?

Also he never explains how the doctor got into the mess and meets people (the bank robbing one)

His era is a rushed mess. Why be an EP if you can be bothered to explain anything in the era. I'd actually rather rtd back with his soppy in love with the doctor companions, at least the monsters and the backstory explained I. Some way. Moffats Episodes I. His era were so much better then the crap he spits out today. I have about list interest and on the verge of switching off. Moffat should stick to odd episodes and not be an EP. Time to be replaced.
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Old 19-10-2014, 19:19
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The creatures that won come out until all is dead- what were they?
Those graffiti things - wtf?! Why were they on earth and what were they?
The thing in the school? The house? The. Thing from hide? The silence creatures?
They have all being explained with the exception of the bed one in Listen and with that that was the point
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Old 19-10-2014, 19:19
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Plus school children and family's are pretty much given trips at the drop of a hat when te doctor would always refuse and he always drops off his companions when they are supposed to travel then companion give up. This new way is pathetic and wish he would have no control of where the tardis went like in the first doctors doctors era
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Old 19-10-2014, 19:21
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They have all being explained with the exception of the bed one in Listen and with that that was the point
Very badly though so it comes across as no much though has gone into them. There's probably others but majority of m his era episodes are forgettable
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Old 19-10-2014, 19:27
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Have you ever watched any of those episodes more than once?

Do you watch any other sci-fi with a similar range of new creatures each series? If so, what are they and have they all been completely clear and unambiguous to you?
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Old 19-10-2014, 19:28
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Plus school children and family's are pretty much given trips at the drop of a hat when te doctor would always refuse and he always drops off his companions when they are supposed to travel then companion give up. This new way is pathetic and wish he would have no control of where the tardis went like in the first doctors doctors era
He didn't last night he ended up in Bristol when he wanted London

Why are they supposed to travel with him all the time so they are not supposed to see their family's and friends for years and years that makes The Doctor sound very selfish as it's either me or your family and if your family are more important to you then piss off.
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Old 19-10-2014, 21:25
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All I'm reading is YOUR problem. It's certainly not THE problem or even A problem. And anyway, we were told this week's monsters were from a two dimensional universe. So: explained.

Who needs everything explained any more than that, really? I don't.

Moving on...
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Old 19-10-2014, 21:43
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Also he never explains how the doctor got into the mess and meets people (the bank robbing one)
This was explained. Maybe pay more attention to the episodes?
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Old 19-10-2014, 21:50
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Plus school children and family's are pretty much given trips at the drop of a hat when te doctor would always refuse and he always drops off his companions when they are supposed to travel then companion give up. This new way is pathetic and wish he would have no control of where the tardis went like in the first doctors doctors era
I think you'll find letting families travel started a bit further back than Moffat, and dropping the companions off when they asked him to. Like with Rose, Martha, Donna and their assorted friends and relations.
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Old 19-10-2014, 21:57
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Oh dear, mate seriously you're having a mare. Watch the episodes again and actually LISTEN this time instead of just noting down everything you want to complain about. Ta.
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Old 19-10-2014, 22:14
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I think Moffat explains his monsters very well, in fact he explains them too well quite often. I was sick of the angels the last time we saw them. I don't want them to have any new powers thanks.

What he doesn't explain are his bloody plots. Why the hell did the Silence blow up the TARDIS? They were only trying to kill the Doctor to save the Universe but how does destroying it before the Doctor gets a chance help? Also, how did they manage to blow it up? Not explained.
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Old 19-10-2014, 22:27
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I think Moffat explains his monsters very well, in fact he explains them too well quite often. I was sick of the angels the last time we saw them. I don't want them to have any new powers thanks.

What he doesn't explain are his bloody plots. Why the hell did the Silence blow up the TARDIS? They were only trying to kill the Doctor to save the Universe but how does destroying it before the Doctor gets a chance help? Also, how did they manage to blow it up? Not explained.
Yes this annoys me to this day!!!
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Old 19-10-2014, 22:40
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Plus school children and family's are pretty much given trips at the drop of a hat when te doctor would always refuse and he always drops off his companions when they are supposed to travel then companion give up. This new way is pathetic and wish he would have no control of where the tardis went like in the first doctors doctors era
I have to agree here! It was much more fun and adventurous when the Doctor DIDN'T know where he was going! Dropping Clara, Amy and Rory off seems a natural everyday thing these days.
That Tardis has become TOO reliable!! Boring!

Bring back what Joe Gillot says - and have it more like a mystery sci-fi series like in the old days......Who knows where they are?? The companions can still come and go!
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Old 19-10-2014, 22:50
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The biggest problem with the Moffat era is no Gay Agenda. I miss the Gay Agenda.
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Old 19-10-2014, 23:32
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The biggest problem with the Moffat era is no Gay Agenda. I miss the Gay Agenda.
It's been replaced - it's now the Grey Agenda.
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Old 19-10-2014, 23:37
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The biggest problem with the Moffat era is that it can't have much longer left.
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Old 19-10-2014, 23:40
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I think the biggest problem with Neighbours is that it never really explains where Australians come from. Why do they want to live on a cul-de-sac?
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Old 19-10-2014, 23:42
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Yes, cos that's French
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Old 19-10-2014, 23:46
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The biggest problem with the Moffat era is that it can't have much longer left.
Hear hear. I wish it could go on forever.
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Old 20-10-2014, 00:11
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Hear hear. I wish it could go on forever.
I wonder if waris hussein would be interested?
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Old 20-10-2014, 00:13
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Why the hell did the Silence blow up the TARDIS? They were only trying to kill the Doctor to save the Universe but how does destroying it before the Doctor gets a chance help? Also, how did they manage to blow it up? Not explained.
Eh, this was explained. The Kovarian cult rebelled from the papal mainframe and went back in time along the doctors timeline to try and stop him reaching trenzalore to ensure he couldn't bring back the timelords. Not everything needs a how, so what difference does it make to the story how it was done, but you got your why.
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Old 20-10-2014, 00:21
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Eh, this was explained. The Kovarian cult rebelled from the papal mainframe and went back in time along the doctors timeline to try and stop him reaching trenzalore to ensure he couldn't bring back the timelords. Not everything needs a how, so what difference does it make to the story how it was done, but you got your why.
Not everything needs an explanation sure, but they managed to some how steal the TARDIS and blow it up. That's a pretty big gap, one I think should be explained.
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Old 20-10-2014, 01:24
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Eh, this was explained. The Kovarian cult rebelled from the papal mainframe and went back in time along the doctors timeline to try and stop him reaching trenzalore to ensure he couldn't bring back the timelords. Not everything needs a how, so what difference does it make to the story how it was done, but you got your why.
No, I get why they wanted to stop the Doctor reaching Trenzalore, my question is why the hell would they destroy the Universe to accomplish this? I mean, all they were really doing was destroying the universe to save it from being destroyed. Doesn't really make sense.

Also, if some group can just magically blow up the TARDIS, you bet your ass I want to know how they did it. You're right, not everything needs a how, I can live with a lot of minor things but this is blowing up the ONLY constant thing that has ever been in Doctor Who. This is one of the things that needed an explanation.
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Old 20-10-2014, 01:27
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It's been replaced - it's now the Grey Agenda.
I'm not seeing a preponderance of aged people, besides the big D himself.
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Old 20-10-2014, 09:21
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I'm not seeing a preponderance of aged people, besides the big D himself.
They're everywhere...

Orson and Clara were both 50,000,000,000 years old in Listen, Vastra remembered having a pet rexxie and moonchicken was a mere baby at 100,000 years of age.

Another couple of episodes and "mad man in a box" may have a very different meaning.

Bloody Moffat!
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