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johnnysaucepn
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by TEDR:
“I wondered how many people understood the meaning this weekend when Clara switched from asking if she'd done well to asking if she'd done good. I think she was just being lazy with grammar but the Doctor clearly saw the difference.”

Specifically, the Doctor wants Clara to realise there is a difference - that being successful is not the same as morally heroic.

It's definitely a common thread this series - one of the little things I quite liked in The Caretaker was that the Doctor didn't want to be interrupted in his 'work'. I don't think I've ever heard the Doctor refer to it like that before - such a pragmatic assessment of what he does. A duty and responsibility, rather than a diversion from fun.

Quote:
“You want to know what's in that box? I'll tell you what's in that box. It's a time machine. It also travels in space. And it usually contains a man who just wants to get on with his work of preventing the end of the world, but keeps being interrupted by boring little humans.”

doormouse1
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by Shoppy:
“TARDIS telepathic circuits!”

Ooh - I hadn't thought of that. Maybe the reason why the Doctor asked Clara to 'drive' using the telepathic circuits was to allow the TARDIS to interface with her, and read her.

Later the Doctor was able to analyse the data gathered.

I noticed the cyberman symbol near Missy. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Clara had been replaced with a more sophisticated version of half-face and is unwittingly leading the Doctor to possible destruction.

Danny Pink is also possibly not human. The Doctor keeps referring to him as 'a PE teacher' - remember the superhuman vault he made to save Clara? It looked rather accomplished for a maths teacher to me. Does he have enhanced physical abilities, which the Doctor has picked up on and believed he had assumed the role of PE teacher at the school?
James Frederick
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by doormouse1:
“The Doctor keeps referring to him as 'a PE teacher' - remember the superhuman vault he made to save Clara? It looked rather accomplished for a maths teacher to me. Does he have enhanced physical abilities, which the Doctor has picked up on and believed he had assumed the role of PE teacher at the school?”

I thought that even a Olympic Gold Medallist Gymnast couldn't pull that off
Red-Eye
21-10-2014
I dunno, she kinda reminded me of The Wicked Witch Of The West there, I'm now expecting her to send the flying Winged-Monkeys to capture them.

But in all seriousness I think she's the woman in the shop and whatever her plan is I think Clara is unintentionally helping her.
johnnysaucepn
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by doormouse1:
“Danny Pink is also possibly not human. The Doctor keeps referring to him as 'a PE teacher' - remember the superhuman vault he made to save Clara? It looked rather accomplished for a maths teacher to me. Does he have enhanced physical abilities, which the Doctor has picked up on and believed he had assumed the role of PE teacher at the school?”

Yes, he does have enhanced physical abilities - he's a trained soldier! The Doctor calls him a PE teacher because he assumed physical abilities is all he has.
BrightonBear
21-10-2014
Missy could be the Black Guardian
adams66
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by BrightonBear:
“Missy could be the Black Guardian”

Well, she could.
But frankly she could be almost anyone.
Why do you think she's the Black Guardian?
James Frederick
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by johnnysaucepn:
“Yes, he does have enhanced physical abilities - he's a trained soldier! The Doctor calls him a PE teacher because he assumed physical abilities is all he has.”

Even trained soldiers aren't that good he must have jumped at least 15 feet into the air as I said even someone who won gold at the Olympics for that kind of thing could not have pulled that move off.
comedyfish
21-10-2014
I thought missy is somehow related to the Tardis but the 'chosen well' line doesn't really fit as the Tardis hates Clara I thought.

So it's someone who Chose Clara and considers The Doc as her boyfriend.
TerraCanis
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by The_Judge_:
“My new theory - Missy has been using Clara to teach the Doctor he is a good man and to help him to feel and emote again.

Just that weird Cyberman logo behind her in the last scene is odd ... ”

Help me out here - where is that symbol?

I can see the big window over her right shoulder, and the smaller window in the door over her left shoulder, and the design on her "brooch" might be the head and shoulders of a Deadly Assassin era Time Lord, but I can't make out a Cyberman logo.

Oh, and in the curiouser and curiouser department - last week someone picked up on a scene where the image of Clara seemed to have been flipped for no apparent reason.

This time, there were a couple of times when we saw Clara in the mirror but the image wasn't flipped. I'd put that down to carelessness (or at the very least, not thinking that it mattered) if it wasn't for the fact that the Doctor might have been responding to it.
fastest finger
21-10-2014
Surely Missy was "the woman in the shop" and by giving Clara the Doctor's number, she effectively chose her to be his new companion for reasons as yet unknown.
Airborae
21-10-2014
Here's a totally wild theory.

Missy is a Dalek agent. Clara is also a Dalek agent, but doesn't realise it yet.

Just remembered that Terry Nation used to write about white featureless rooms in the first Dalek stories. Judging from what we've seen of the Nethersphere so far...

Is Steven Moffat being a bit too clever thinking that no one has spotted it yet?

Well as far as half baked theories on these boards...it's not bad!
TerraCanis
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by fastest finger:
“Surely Missy was "the woman in the shop" and by giving Clara the Doctor's number, she effectively chose her to be his new companion for reasons as yet unknown.”

I think the woman in the shop was River Song in The Bells of St John, but since Deep Breath the woman in the shop was Missy
The_Judge_
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by TerraCanis:
“Help me out here - where is that symbol?

I can see the big window over her right shoulder, and the smaller window in the door over her left shoulder, and the design on her "brooch" might be the head and shoulders of a Deadly Assassin era Time Lord, but I can't make out a Cyberman logo.

Oh, and in the curiouser and curiouser department - last week someone picked up on a scene where the image of Clara seemed to have been flipped for no apparent reason.

This time, there were a couple of times when we saw Clara in the mirror but the image wasn't flipped. I'd put that down to carelessness (or at the very least, not thinking that it mattered) if it wasn't for the fact that the Doctor might have been responding to it.”

Well its not definitely a Cyberman symbol, but its been postulated it looks a lot like a CyberEye - see here, thanks to CD93 for sharing:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...=#post75262139
TerraCanis
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by The_Judge_:
“Well its not definitely a Cyberman symbol, but its been postulated it looks a lot like a CyberEye - see here, thanks to CD93 for sharing:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...=#post75262139”

Thanks - I can see the likeness now.

That thread also mentions the Doctor staring intently at the screen when it was showing the mirror image that wasn't a mirror image.
fastest finger
23-10-2014
Originally Posted by TerraCanis:
“I think the woman in the shop was River Song in The Bells of St John, but since Deep Breath the woman in the shop was Missy ”

Nah, Clara would have recognised her in The Name of the Doctor.
TerraCanis
24-10-2014
Originally Posted by fastest finger:
“Nah, Clara would have recognised her in The Name of the Doctor.”

True enough. I still think that the woman in the shop isn't who she was going to be at first, though.
Red-Eye
24-10-2014
Originally Posted by TerraCanis:
“True enough. I still think that the woman in the shop isn't who she was going to be at first, though.”

Actually I am now starting to believe the woman in the shop was Doc 12 in disguise all along to make damn sure Clara meets Doc 11!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dZEW400vrL8/UgaBTkEx5qI/AAAAAAABXKo/_8O_08YTa04/s1600/1.jpg

As for Missy she's probably just some deluded, creepy stalker who fantasied about being the most important person to The Doctor's life to the point she's actually made it a reality for herself! Poor Doc 12 is none the wiser.
garbage456
24-10-2014
Originally Posted by Red-Eye:
“Actually I am now starting to believe the woman in the shop was Doc 12 in disguise all along to make damn sure Clara meets Doc 11!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dZEW400vrL8/UgaBTkEx5qI/AAAAAAABXKo/_8O_08YTa04/s1600/1.jpg

As for Missy she's probably just some deluded, creepy stalker who fantasied about being the most important person to The Doctor's life to the point she's actually made it a reality for herself! Poor Doc 12 is none the wiser. ”

I could see this working. Someone who the doctor refused to take on his tardis and she getting his own back
johnnysaucepn
24-10-2014
Originally Posted by fastest finger:
“Nah, Clara would have recognised her in The Name of the Doctor.”

Well, we don't always remember the people we briefly meet in day-to-day life, but I would think River would have recognised Clara or made some comment about it in Name, since we know that's from a time after her death.
finn946
24-10-2014
What if the 'PE' in PE teacher is actually an acronym? The Doctor seems to be quite insistent on calling Danny it

Any ideas what it could stand for?

(please don't say Prostate Examination teacher!)
saladfingers81
24-10-2014
Originally Posted by finn946:
“What if the 'PE' in PE teacher is actually an acronym? The Doctor seems to be quite insistent on calling Danny it

Any ideas what it could stand for?

(please don't say Prostate Examination teacher!)”

Erm Physical Education I would imagine...
Koquillion
24-10-2014
Originally Posted by saladfingers81:
“Erm Physical Education I would imagine...”

Come on you insect, join in the 'fun'! PE...could be Pointless Existence or Plotholes Explained or Pitful Expression or Pudding Eater or how about Puny Earthling?
James Frederick
24-10-2014
Psychotic or Psycho Educator
saladfingers81
24-10-2014
Originally Posted by Koquillion:
“Come on you insect, join in the 'fun'! PE...could be Pointless Existence or Plotholes Explained or Pitful Expression or Pudding Eater or how about Puny Earthling?”

Sorry. I am worthless. I am but an ignorant bug waiting to be crushed by the boot of the Ploterrati. Forgive me.

In my case I suppose its Poorly Educated
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