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Jason_Jones1
20-10-2014
Maybe this is why some viewers do not like series 8.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29645991

A show aimed at school children, would kill the show and I think it has but what the heck call me a troll if you wish.

But the agenda seems to be there.

How about a doctor who is into Rock music, taking drugs and blowing seven bails of crap out of Daleks with hyper sonic bazooka blasters.

Why make the show so squeaky clean.

Bring back the danger and introduce some gratuitous violence and scare the viewers.

I know your going to hate the post.

Sorry in advance.
emby2
20-10-2014
Do you seriously consider series 8 to be squeaky clean? This would be the same series 8 in which the Doctor has been accused of 'letting people die left, right and centre'?

Also, a cursory glance at the history of Doctor Who computer games show games like this have been around since the show came back in 2005. Hardly an exclusive association with series 8.

And why shouldn't there be stuff for kids when kids watch the show. Doctor Who Adventures is a kids magazine, while DWM caters for adults. It's not like they're aimed at any one group. Doctor Who is for everyone.

I really hope I didn't write all that for a troll.
MinkytheDog
20-10-2014
Originally Posted by Jason_Jones1:
“what the heck call me a troll if you wish.”

You're a troll
bp2
20-10-2014
I am glad someone highlighted this (though probably for the wrong reasons). I think this is a brilliant idea I certainly found IF functions very useful in the world of work and coding is increasing in importance. I hope they complete the Boolean Logic section. Even though I am not the target audience I can't wait to do Doctor Who related coding two things that I really enjoy.
James Frederick
20-10-2014
Originally Posted by Jason_Jones1:
“
A show aimed at school children, would kill the show”

It's being aimed at children since 1963
Corwin
20-10-2014
Originally Posted by Jason_Jones1:
“
A show aimed at school children, would kill the show and I think it has but what the heck call me a troll if you wish.
”

So the show was cancelled in 1963 then?

What the hell have we been watching for the last 50 years?
doormouse1
20-10-2014
Sheesh - they are really crawling out of the woodwork now, aren't they?
adams66
20-10-2014
Originally Posted by doormouse1:
“Sheesh - they are really crawling out of the woodwork now, aren't they?”

What are? Woodworms? You need to get that looked at.
TEDR
20-10-2014
Originally Posted by doormouse1:
“Sheesh - they are really crawling out of the woodwork now, aren't they?”

Imagine what it'd be like if the programme ever were cancelled again.
Jason_Jones1
20-10-2014
Hmm you all missed the point which was that John Hurt was the Doctor described.
And you call me a troll, if I slag something I slag the show, not the person. there is a big difference.
James Frederick
20-10-2014
Originally Posted by Jason_Jones1:
“Hmm you all missed the point which was that John Hurt was the Doctor described.
And you call me a troll, if I slag something I slag the show, not the person. there is a big difference.”

Ah but the point with Hurt is that he wasn't The Doctor he didn't call or think of himself as such he didn't like what he did or had to do.
Kapellmeister
20-10-2014
Watching stories like 'Spearhead from Space', 'Inferno', 'Weng-Chiang', 'Pyramids of Mars', etc. and the show never, ever felt like it was aimed at kids, something which can't always be said of the post-2005 series. That Robin Hood episode was just appalling, infantile drivel.
TEDR
20-10-2014
Originally Posted by Kapellmeister:
“Watching stories like 'Spearhead from Space', 'Inferno', 'Weng-Chiang', 'Pyramids of Mars', etc. and the show never, ever felt like it was aimed at kids, something which can't always be said of the post-2005 series. That Robin Hood episode was just appalling, infantile drivel.”

That's not about who the programme is aimed at, that's about who the showrunner is best friends with.

(EDIT: and, allegedly, it lost some of its sense and form due to the extrication of the beheading scene, but it was pretty awful for the first 30-or-40 minutes anyway so I'm not sure how much of a factor that was really)
johnnysaucepn
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by Kapellmeister:
“Watching stories like 'Spearhead from Space', 'Inferno', 'Weng-Chiang', 'Pyramids of Mars', etc. and the show never, ever felt like it was aimed at kids”

Really? Because that's exactly what I feel when I see some of those episodes. For every storyline that sails over a kid's head, there's one that's depressingly cliched and pantomime.
garbage456
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by Jason_Jones1:
“Hmm you all missed the point which was that John Hurt was the Doctor described.
And you call me a troll, if I slag something I slag the show, not the person. there is a big difference.”


You said in your opening op call me a troll. Someone called you a troll with a smiley and you go nuts?
Jason_Jones1
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by garbage456:
“You said in your opening op call me a troll. Someone called you a troll with a smiley and you go nuts?”

Nuts?
comedyfish
21-10-2014
I'm sure the OP isn't a troll. Oh wait he only has 20 posts.

Oh sorry yeah he probably is a troll then
adams66
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by Kapellmeister:
“Watching stories like 'Spearhead from Space', 'Inferno', 'Weng-Chiang', 'Pyramids of Mars', etc. and the show never, ever felt like it was aimed at kids, something which can't always be said of the post-2005 series. That Robin Hood episode was just appalling, infantile drivel.”

People have been saying the same things all though Doctor Who's history.

I love the gritty "Inferno" but hang about, and simmer down Stu, here's the infantile drivel of "The Time Monster".

"Pyramids of Mars", a classic for sure, and one of my favourites. "Underworld"? Well, it's not for me, I think it gives pantomime a bad name.

Two stories after the complex and adult "Power Of The Daleks" we have the supremely silly "The Underwater Menace" which, despite its oddly large budget, rarely rises above the level of a bad school production.

Doctor Who has always been like this, mixing the dark and mysterious and downright scary, with lighter, sometimes deliberately comedic stories. And in any long running series there's always going to be some clunkers.

I joined the Doctor Who Appreciation Society in 1979 and I was shocked by the level of vitriol aimed at the then current series, Graham Williams' last. In 1979 it seemed that all Pertwee stories were held up as the pinnacle of the series so far, and most fans seemed to agree that Tom Baker must go as he was ruining the show.

The current series always comes in for abuse. Today there's a rise in fans praising the RTD era, especially compared with the Moffat era. But look back at posts from 2006, 2007 etc - there's a huge number of negative threads about how RTD must go as he's ruining the show. Fans never change, they just change what they bitch about.
Granny McSmith
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by doormouse1:
“Sheesh - they are really crawling out of the woodwork now, aren't they?”

Originally Posted by adams66:
“What are? Woodworms? .”

I hope it's not The Boneless.
MinkytheDog
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by garbage456:
“You said in your opening op call me a troll. Someone called you a troll with a smiley and you go nuts?”

Fair does - I was the one that posted the "you're a troll " joke and I don't believe the OP's later replies were a reaction to me or that post. I read it as him saying that he's been called a troll for thing said in other posts and threads.

I reject his suggestion at the top of this thread and I don't exactly like his general posting habits but I don't believe he's "gone nuts" in his responses here.
Michael_Eve
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by adams66:
“People have been saying the same things all though Doctor Who's history.

I love the gritty "Inferno" but hang about, and simmer down Stu, here's the infantile drivel of "The Time Monster".

"Pyramids of Mars", a classic for sure, and one of my favourites. "Underworld"? Well, it's not for me, I think it gives pantomime a bad name.

Two stories after the complex and adult "Power Of The Daleks" we have the supremely silly "The Underwater Menace" which, despite its oddly large budget, rarely rises above the level of a bad school production.

Doctor Who has always been like this, mixing the dark and mysterious and downright scary, with lighter, sometimes deliberately comedic stories. And in any long running series there's always going to be some clunkers.

I joined the Doctor Who Appreciation Society in 1979 and I was shocked by the level of vitriol aimed at the then current series, Graham Williams' last. In 1979 it seemed that all Pertwee stories were held up as the pinnacle of the series so far, and most fans seemed to agree that Tom Baker must go as he was ruining the show.

The current series always comes in for abuse. Today there's a rise in fans praising the RTD era, especially compared with the Moffat era. But look back at posts from 2006, 2007 etc - there's a huge number of negative threads about how RTD must go as he's ruining the show. Fans never change, they just change what they bitch about.”

Yup. It can seem to go in waves in fandom. The Pertwee era has been in and out of 'fashion' more than, um, darn, can't think.....flares? Well, things that have been in fashion, then not in fashion, then back in fashion again. A lot.

Joined a little local group in the mid-80's (included a young lad who's gone on to do DVD extra stuff for Who! He borrowed my third generation video of 'Four to Doomsday'; yeah, look impressed.) and the Williams era was often dismissed. As was the Hartnell era. Yes, the Hartnell era?!! Which is obviously superb. Then again, maybe I'm just a Hartnell/Williams revisionist.
chuffnobbler
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by Jason_Jones1:
“Maybe this is why some viewers do not like series 8.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29645991

A show aimed at school children, would kill the show and I think it has but what the heck call me a troll if you wish.
.”

I don't like the current series, and have stopped watching. I can confirm that the reasons for this are totally unrelated to those in the OP's link. I don't see any relationship between the link and the current series of DW, and fail to see the point the OP is making.


Originally Posted by Kapellmeister:
“Watching stories like 'Spearhead from Space', 'Inferno', 'Weng-Chiang', 'Pyramids of Mars', etc. and the show never, ever felt like it was aimed at kids, something which can't always be said of the post-2005 series. That Robin Hood episode was just appalling, infantile drivel.”

I felt that the Robin Hood episode was the least awful of the three I've watched this year! It was fun, upbeat and jolly. It wasn't trying to be meaningful and "dark". Wasn't good enough to keep me watching, though.

As others have said, for every Spearhead from Space, there's a Colony in Space.
SJB 2007
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by TEDR:
“Imagine what it'd be like if the programme ever were cancelled again.”

Yes i can....

'Doctor in distress, sending out an sos'
MinkytheDog
21-10-2014
Originally Posted by TEDR:
“Imagine what it'd be like if the programme ever were cancelled again.”

This forum would close and another one would be targeted by trolls of both denomination.
Shoppy
21-10-2014
Maybe this is why some threads!

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