I find it funny the only award I was pleased with who won it, David Tennant of course, was the one that the general public didn't have a vote on. Judging by the recipients of the other awards it'd probably have gone to Keith Lemon or someone soapy if there had been a vote.
Doctor Who & Peter Capaldi Longlisted in NTAs - Voting Open
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I thought Tennants award was really sweet.
As for shows and actors I like not winning, which was pretty much every category ... couldn't give two hoots.
As for shows and actors I like not winning, which was pretty much every category ... couldn't give two hoots.
Tbh neither DW or Sherlock were good enough this year. Not that DA was a top quality drama but I don't think the former shows can feel particularly hard done by.
I assume Downtown Things Will Be Great When You're Downtown Abbey won then! Never watched it as it's not my thing and rather unfairly as I've never met him, not keen on it's creator. I'm an inverted snob, I admit it!
Think Sheridan's great, so pleased but not suprised that she won...and well played Mr Tennant.
Think Sheridan's great, so pleased but not suprised that she won...and well played Mr Tennant.
I can't see any actor nowadays, nevermind the lead in Doctor Who, winning four consecutive awards at this type of award ceremony.
Important to remember the NTAs are a popularity vote, and it does tend to be younger people who vote too.
Its the main reason Eastenders regularly wins best soap (a younger audience) and why X-Factor tends to be beat Strictly.
Bizarrely, Downton is very popular with younger viewers too - I think its because they get to stay up late on a Sunday night.
Its the main reason Eastenders regularly wins best soap (a younger audience) and why X-Factor tends to be beat Strictly.
Bizarrely, Downton is very popular with younger viewers too - I think its because they get to stay up late on a Sunday night.
Still nice to get in to the top four, I guess.
( Hope Happy Valley gets something at the BAFTAs, myself )
( Hope Happy Valley gets something at the BAFTAs, myself
)
Originally Posted by Mulett:
“Important to remember the NTAs are a popularity vote, and it does tend to be younger people who vote too.
Its the main reason Eastenders regularly wins best soap (a younger audience) and why X-Factor tends to be beat Strictly.
Bizarrely, Downton is very popular with younger viewers too - I think its because they get to stay up late on a Sunday night.”
“Important to remember the NTAs are a popularity vote, and it does tend to be younger people who vote too.
Its the main reason Eastenders regularly wins best soap (a younger audience) and why X-Factor tends to be beat Strictly.
Bizarrely, Downton is very popular with younger viewers too - I think its because they get to stay up late on a Sunday night.”
It seems funny though that Doctor Who regularly won throughout David Tennants era, then we had Matt Smith and the awards started to fizzle away. We come to Peter Capaldi and nothing, zippo and zilch.
Something is obviously wrong. Now I liked Matt Smith, I thought his portrayal of The Doctor was one of the best, specially in his last series. However, most of the episodes were tripe. Same goes for Peter Capaldi. He makes a brilliant Doctor, again though most of series eight was a let down.
And that is the problem. David Tennant was a great Doctor, but he also had ( for the most part ) great episodes. Ones that appealed to the general audience and not just the fans. Like it or not, that's the reason Doctor Who is not as popular now as it was then.
Yes. Because the NTAs and Sun readers and heat magazine readers and indeed snakecharmer37 are truly the arbiters of taste and quality.
Laughable.
These awards mean nothing.
'Somethings obviously wrong'
Such as? I think what you mean is 'I don't like it as much anymore and so I impose my individual opinion on everyone else because I'm too insecure to just hold that opinion for myself'
Next.
Laughable.
These awards mean nothing.
'Somethings obviously wrong'
Such as? I think what you mean is 'I don't like it as much anymore and so I impose my individual opinion on everyone else because I'm too insecure to just hold that opinion for myself'
Next.
Originally Posted by snakecharmer37:
“ again though most of series eight was a let down.”
“ again though most of series eight was a let down.”
Highly subjective
HV could easily have walked away with Best Drama as far as I'm concerned, but it didn't even make the shortlist. To say something is wrong despite making the top four is a bit of a stretch. Still nice to get there every years for nine year - we're of course the most nominated drama at this particular event
Originally Posted by CD93:
“
( Hope Happy Valley gets something at the BAFTAs, myself )”
“
( Hope Happy Valley gets something at the BAFTAs, myself
)”
Sarah Lancashire and Happy Valley will wipe every catagory they're in with ease. Though I am a little biased. I was born, brought up and live where it was filmed.
It's a travesty it didn't make the shortlist. The popularist vote is not always a vote of quality.
Originally Posted by CD93:
“We're of course the most nominated drama at this particular event”
“We're of course the most nominated drama at this particular event
”
Be careful, in danger of sounding like a football fan
These awards are just about soaps and reality tv.
You can vote as many times as you like if you know how...could be the same person voting endlessly.
The whole thing is meaningless.
You can vote as many times as you like if you know how...could be the same person voting endlessly.
The whole thing is meaningless.
Originally Posted by JDEsseintes:
“Be careful, in danger of sounding like a football fan”
“Be careful, in danger of sounding like a football fan
”
Well we've had a good series JD, we're in good form. Our gaffer is getting back on track and urrrhm, we've got a new Cap'n, Petey, who is really motivating, you know? Yeah we made a few mistakes along the way but we'll learn from them and urrrhm, we'll look forward to the next one and see how we can improve further.
Originally Posted by snakecharmer37:
“It seems funny though that Doctor Who regularly won throughout David Tennants era, then we had Matt Smith and the awards started to fizzle away. We come to Peter Capaldi and nothing, zippo and zilch.”
“It seems funny though that Doctor Who regularly won throughout David Tennants era, then we had Matt Smith and the awards started to fizzle away. We come to Peter Capaldi and nothing, zippo and zilch.”
As David Tennant said himself in his Special Recognition speech, drama seems to be riding a wave right now. All it means is that Doctor Who was once without peer, and now has more to compete against. For example, Downton Abbey first launched in 2010 - can we be sure that Who would have won had it appeared two years earlier?
Originally Posted by johnnysaucepn:
“As David Tennant said himself in his Special Recognition speech, drama seems to be riding a wave right now. All it means is that Doctor Who was once without peer, and now has more to compete against. For example, Downton Abbey first launched in 2010 - can we be sure that Who would have won had it appeared two years earlier?”
“As David Tennant said himself in his Special Recognition speech, drama seems to be riding a wave right now. All it means is that Doctor Who was once without peer, and now has more to compete against. For example, Downton Abbey first launched in 2010 - can we be sure that Who would have won had it appeared two years earlier?”
Yes, agree 100%. There is more competition now - and popular competition too. As an example, here's the competition David, Billie and the show faced in 2006:
2006
Most Popular Actor
WINNER: David Tennant (Doctor Who)
Bradley Walsh (Coronation Street)
Ross Kemp (EastEnders)
Chris Fountain (Hollyoaks)
Matthew Fox (Lost)
Most Popular Actress
WINNER: Billie Piper (Doctor Who)
Sue Cleaver (Coronation Street)
Lacey Turner (EastEnders)
Ursula Holden-Gill (Emmerdale)
Evangeline Lilly (Lost)
Most Popular Drama
WINNER: Doctor Who (BBC)
Bad Girls (ITV)
Desperate Housewives (Channel 4)
Lost (Channel 4)
Up until the past few years, Doctor Who's competition came from soaps or US imports with small viewing figures. I will say - however - that Doctor Who was still an amazing show in its own right and deserved all of its wins.
But even if it is losing some votes now, its important to remember that this modern-day renaissance for British Drama (for me) started back in 2005. I'm not sure we'd even have the likes of Downton, Broadchurch or the others if BBC Wales hadn't proven that it really was worth investing in drama again.
Originally Posted by CD93:
“Well we've had a good series JD, we're in good form. Our gaffer is getting back on track and urrrhm, we've got a new Cap'n, Petey, who is really motivating, you know? Yeah we made a few mistakes along the way but we'll learn from them and urrrhm, we'll look forward to the next one and see how we can improve further.”
“Well we've had a good series JD, we're in good form. Our gaffer is getting back on track and urrrhm, we've got a new Cap'n, Petey, who is really motivating, you know? Yeah we made a few mistakes along the way but we'll learn from them and urrrhm, we'll look forward to the next one and see how we can improve further.”
Yeah, like, over the Judoon, mate. Like, Eggcellent stuff. But you gotta,like, take each war game as it comes, yeah. But deffo not, like, sick as a Polyphase Avatron.
Originally Posted by CD93:
“Well we've had a good series JD, we're in good form. Our gaffer is getting back on track and urrrhm, we've got a new Cap'n, Petey, who is really motivating, you know? Yeah we made a few mistakes along the way but we'll learn from them and urrrhm, we'll look forward to the next one and see how we can improve further.”
“Well we've had a good series JD, we're in good form. Our gaffer is getting back on track and urrrhm, we've got a new Cap'n, Petey, who is really motivating, you know? Yeah we made a few mistakes along the way but we'll learn from them and urrrhm, we'll look forward to the next one and see how we can improve further.”
Hehe
Reminds me of this Mitchell and Webb sketch.
To be honest I find it hard to take any awards show seriously that puts Game of Thrones and Celebrity Juice in the same category and Celebrity Juice wins!
That's not sour grapes either as I like watching both shows, but for completely different reasons. I just don't see how they're comparable in any way shape or form to each other.
That's not sour grapes either as I like watching both shows, but for completely different reasons. I just don't see how they're comparable in any way shape or form to each other.
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