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Genesis of the Daleks - 4 on the Landmine?
jxbrenna
22-10-2014
if the landmine would have detonated would the Dr regenerate? or would it kill him dead? as 10 did say to wilf that a time lord can die if the death is quick
James Frederick
22-10-2014
I don't think we know so far just how much damage a Time Lord can take before he/she can no longer regenerate there must be a limit.
MinkytheDog
22-10-2014
I think the best answer has to be, we don't know and never will unless someone in the show tells us (not sure I want to be shown a Timelord pizza).
Jethryk
22-10-2014
I would say die.

He would have died at the end of Planet of the Spiders if Cho Je hadn't have helped promote a regeneration.

At the end of Caves of Androzan it seems 5 genuinely doesn't know if he's going to die or regenerate.

New series seems to have made him a lot more indestructible.

Think Tom's fall in Logopolis v Tennants in his last story!
jxbrenna
22-10-2014
Originally Posted by Jethryk:
“I would say die.

He would have died at the end of Planet of the Spiders if Cho Je hadn't have helped promote a regeneration.

At the end of Caves of Androzan it seems 5 genuinely doesn't know if he's going to die or regenerate.

New series seems to have made him a lot more indestructible.

Think Tom's fall in Logopolis v Tennants in his last story
!”

This is what got me thinking about it when ive just been watching Genesis Tom fell around 50 - 100 feet from that tower and regened but David fell a good 300 ft at minumun through glass on concreate and still got up with the odd cut and bruise.
MinkytheDog
22-10-2014
True story...

In WW2, a USAF sergeant called Alan Magee was in a B17 that had its wings shot off. He ejected but his chute failed and he crashed through the glass roof of a railway station before hitting the ground and even on he way down, there was an explosion in that same railways station right where he was about to crash-land - he survived a fall of four miles.

It was originally believed that the explosion created a cushion of air and allowed him to land relatively unharmed but recent tests showed that it was actually the glass roof that saved him because it absorbed a lot of the force of his fall and slowed him - the breaking of the glass was actually a life-saver.
James Frederick
22-10-2014
Originally Posted by MinkytheDog:
“True story...

In WW2, a USAF sergeant called Alan Magee was in a B17 that had its wings shot off. He ejected but his chute failed and he crashed through the glass roof of a railway station before hitting the ground and even on he way down, there was an explosion in that same railways station right where he was about to crash-land - he survived a fall of four miles.

It was originally believed that the explosion created a cushion of air and allowed him to land relatively unharmed but recent tests showed that it was actually the glass roof that saved him because it absorbed a lot of the force of his fall and slowed him - the breaking of the glass was actually a life-saver.”

While it's not the same it's sort of why they use tables in wrestling it may look like it hurts to go through one but when they are falling from them from a hight it's really to brake the fall even from a normal move in the ring as the tables are made out of softer wood than the ring it actually hurts less to go through a table than to land in the ring.
DJ_K666
22-10-2014
I know the WWE rings are designed to flex in a particular way. Not sure about TNA rings though cos the six sides made them look a lot smaller. Plus there is about half an inch or so of padding. Brock Lesnar said in an interview that he has his own ring and shows friends how to "break" the fall which is why if you watch The Undertaker last Ride someone (very) closely you can see their elbows go back at the moment of impact which takes most of the force off the spine. Still must really hurt though. Apparently the first thing they teach you is how to fall.
Tom Tit
22-10-2014
Depends on the damage done and how quickly he's killed I guess. If death is near enough instantaneous he's a gonner.

Ironic that for all of the dangers he's been in and escaped the surest way to kill him is probably just blow him to smithereens with a plain old bomb, or failing that, a straightforward bullet through the head.


Originally Posted by DJ_K666:
“I know the WWE rings are designed to flex in a particular way. Not sure about TNA rings though cos the six sides made them look a lot smaller. Plus there is about half an inch or so of padding. Brock Lesnar said in an interview that he has his own ring and shows friends how to "break" the fall which is why if you watch The Undertaker last Ride someone (very) closely you can see their elbows go back at the moment of impact which takes most of the force off the spine. Still must really hurt though. Apparently the first thing they teach you is how to fall.”


Yes, although it's choreographed, those guys really put their body through it. Most of them live on painkillers unfortunately. Awful lifestyle. On the road constantly, having to workout to maintain their physique at the same time, and performing a physically intensive routine in front of audiences most nights. And that's without having to deal with the particularly nasty behind the scenes politics that go on in that industry. Pro wrestlers are tough sons of bitches, but unfortunately most of them pay for it with early death (very early in many cases), dysfunctional family lives and mental health problems. And sometimes some or all of those factors coalesce in a particularly spectacular and tragic way (the Chris Benoit case for example).

I have a lot of respect for pro wrestlers but probably a greater degree of pity, even though they choose to do what they do.
CELT1987
22-10-2014
Originally Posted by Tom Tit:
“Depends on the damage done and how quickly he's killed I guess. If death is near enough instantaneous he's a gonner.

Ironic that for all of the dangers he's been in and escaped the surest way to kill him is probably just blow him to smithereens with a plain old bomb, or failing that, a straightforward bullet through the head.”

Funny how enemies of the Doctor never think of doing that....,
Tom Tit
22-10-2014
Originally Posted by CELT1987:
“Funny how enemies of the Doctor never think of doing that....,”

It would make an interesting cliffhanger wouldn't It? The Doctor's head being shattered in slow motion by a bullet at point blank range... it would make the infamous Deadly Assassin 'drowning' cliffhanger pale in comparison anyway :P
CELT1987
22-10-2014
Originally Posted by Tom Tit:
“It would make an interesting cliffhanger wouldn't It? The Doctor's head being shattered in slow motion by a bullet at point blank range... it would make the infamous Deadly Assassin 'drowning' cliffhanger pale in comparison anyway :P”

Mary Whitehouse would rise from the grave in vegnance if that happened.
Phoenix Lazarus
22-10-2014
Originally Posted by Tom Tit:
“Depends on the damage done and how quickly he's killed I guess. If death is near enough instantaneous he's a gonner. ”

If he's roasted on a spit as a kebab, is he a doner?
Phoenix Lazarus
22-10-2014
Originally Posted by Tom Tit:
“It would make an interesting cliffhanger wouldn't It? The Doctor's head being shattered in slow motion by a bullet at point blank range... it would make the infamous Deadly Assassin 'drowning' cliffhanger pale in comparison anyway :P”

Dr Who Sam Peckinpah-style. Interesting thought. Bring back the Family of Blood & their live scarecrows, & remake Straw Dogs as Straw Men. Or you could have an army of K9 copies-Metal Dogs. How about remaking Bring Me The Head of Alfredo Garcia, as Bring Me The Head Of Dorian Bordova!?
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