**SPOILER** Thread - Saturday 25th October 2014

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Veri

25-10-2014

Originally Posted by abigailsmum:
“Yes - Olivej for definite, a couple of other possibles this week, & a definite for next week!!”

Originally Posted by toyboysmum:
“Yes Olivej is providing the result.”

Thanks! (And to Olivej as well.)

Originally Posted by Stuart25:
“Pixie - 35
Caroline - 34
Mark - 33
Frankie - 32
Jake - 31
Sunetra - 30
= Steve - 30
Simon - 28
Thom - 27
Alison - 23
Scott - 19
Judy - 18”

Only one tie. Good.

I wonder if it will help us avoid any bottom two surprises.

DJBaroque

25-10-2014

Good evening folks, very enjoyable show tonight, the front runners are very closely matched but I think tonight it should be between Scott and Alison. Judy turned up this week.

yohinnchild

25-10-2014

Originally Posted by lealeeds:
“Lack of hunks this year aka Artem and Robin”

you mean OTT beefed up meat heads?

ChilledChumba

25-10-2014

Originally Posted by joh1965:
“I'm happy as long as Steve's in it ”

Ah, Steve.
Yes of course. True hunk.

natalian

25-10-2014

Originally Posted by Margaret_Erskin:
“I agree with what you say but they can manipulate who goes top as well”

Except I don't believe that they do. I hear lots of conspiracy theories on these boards all the time. All they generally reflect is the prejudices of the forum members i.e. they always think that the person they like has been undermarked and everyone else overmarked.

In the main, the judges get the leaderboard about right.

lapsangsusie

25-10-2014

If we're sharing, could I please have 10.37?
I also have graze snacks: rocky road granola topper is open but I could also bring out the jam doughnut thing (not a jam doughnut), chai latte pot pourri or salt and vinegar nuts.

Veri

25-10-2014

Originally Posted by Margaret_Erskin:
“I agree with what you say but they can manipulate who goes top as well”

What's the key difference between marking and manipulating?

Tower Dancer

25-10-2014

Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“think it would be easier to warm to her if Scott was a little better - I could not cope i I had to try and get a peformance out of him week in week out and I have taught some duffers in my time but he just seems to not have one dance gene in him”

The thing is Scott cant even pretend to act sexy or that he is in love with his partner, think Robin who could do all that despite being gay, he sold you a believable story this would be a too big an ask for Scott.

abigailsmum

25-10-2014

Originally Posted by lapsangsusie:
“If we're sharing, could I please have 10.37?
I also have graze snacks: rocky road granola topper is open but I could also bring out the jam doughnut thing (not a jam doughnut), chai latte pot pourri or salt and vinegar nuts.”

Not sharing this week hun - will start next week if enough FM's want it to. Have a look on P11 for a free time xxx

BIDIE-IN

25-10-2014

Evening all!

abigailsmum

25-10-2014

Originally Posted by Tower Dancer:
“The thing is Scott cant even pretend to act sexy or that he is in love with his partner, think Robin who could do all that despite being gay, he sold you a believable story this would be a too big an ask for Scott.”

OK - now you've given me a VERY unwanted image of Scott doing a Rhumba...Pass the brain bleach

Major Chudley

25-10-2014

Originally Posted by ChilledChumba:
“Ah, Steve.
Yes of course. True hunk.”

He's pretty much invisible on strictly and one of the very few that would have had no form of stage school training. I get a bit bored with the good from day one crew, I like a journey

Johnnys Arcade

25-10-2014

Runners & riders going down to post. Pizza about to hit oven.....

Lismore

25-10-2014

Originally Posted by yorkshirelass2:
“Only one tied score this week so thankfully we have an almost fair leaderboard in terms of points. The bottom one should really have only one point but as Judy should be above Scott, we'll let her have 2, and a lot of votes as well !!”

DEALING WITH TIES
Sunetra & Steve are tied at 6=, so they receive 7 points each from the Judges. Would it be fairer if they received 6.5 points each. Probably not important this week but this system may make it fairer if there were more ties at the bottom of the Judges leader board.

abigailsmum

25-10-2014

Originally Posted by BIDIE-IN:
“Evening all!”

Evening lovely

Oh - a BIG welcome to all our newbies as well - enjoy the party. Help yourselves to food & drink. Be careful on the spinny chairs as someone had the WD40 on them earlier

Veri

25-10-2014

Originally Posted by natalian:
“Except I don't believe that they do. I hear lots of conspiracy theories on these boards all the time. All they generally reflect is the prejudices of the forum members i.e. they always think that the person they like has been undermarked and everyone else overmarked.

In the main, the judges get the leaderboard about right.”

I think there is a lot of over- and under- marking, regardless of forum "prejudices". But that doesn't mean the judges are giving marks they think are over or under -- or are doing it in order to "manipulate" the leaderboard. I think that would be a very serious accusation to make, especially since people are spending money on phone votes.

bendymixer

25-10-2014

Originally Posted by Lismore:
“DEALING WITH TIES
Sunetra & Steve are tied at 6=, so they receive 7 points each from the Judges. Would it be fairer if they received 6.5 points each. Probably not important this week but this system may make it fairer if there were more ties at the bottom of the Judges leader board.”

I feel the big mistake they make with ties is in the place after the tie ie

if there is a tie for say 3rd placr then it should be

1
2
3=
5 and so on

by doing that the marks below run right and it is what happens in dance comps

hannah_337

25-10-2014

Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“I feel the big mistake they make with ties is in the place after the tie ie

if there is a tie for say 3rd placr then it should be

1
2
3=
5 and so on

by doing that the marks below run right and it is what happens in dance comps”

The problem with doing it that way when there are less couples is that the bottom can never be saved from the dance off, even with every public vote. They used to do it that way but changed it.

abigailsmum

25-10-2014

The time guess list is now CLOSED!! Good Luck Everyone xx

9:57 KiwiJay
9:58 Stunty
9:59 tvqueen1905
10:00 BeethovensPiano
10:01 RFS
10:02 ju1965
10:03 Jayinthegarden
10:04 Tashatwirl
10:05 treetree
10:06 pembo2004
10:07 SueDoku
10:08 joh1965
10:09 JosephFanAlison
10:10 trudij
10:11 anotherBBWLisa
10:12 sjmsjm2
10:13 micthemini
10:14 RedBaron06
10:15 myla5trolo
10:16 EStaffs90
10:17 Devon Maid
10:18 Anne_Cameron
10:19 yorkshirelass2
10:20 Johnnys Arcade
10:21 Stuart25
10:22 Laptop Lil
10:23 jackier
10:24 Callmepitstop
10:25 Lolly_Du_Beke
10:26 jeanoj
10:27 catakin
10:28 Koalapossum
10:29 Sweetiecat
10:30 edy10
10:31 StrictlySC4
10:32 cararose
10:33 abigailsmum
10:34 DancingQueen74
10:35 SaraV1308
10:36 yorkshire belle
10:37 Monaogg
10:38 dennisboy
10:39 Mr_XcX
10:40 TheAuburnEnigma
10:41 natalian
10:42 toyboysmum
10:43 lewiep93
10:44 shimmy&shake
10:45 KorkyTheCat
10:46 CaroUK
10:47 tic tac
10:48 hansue
10:49 Cally's Mum
10:50 BelgoLift
10:51 holly berry
10:52 tiddleboo
10:53 winter99
10:54 brotonsbaby
10:55 Seymour
10:56 Fudd
10:57 natz281
10:58 Thursday next
10:59 Monsieur23
11:00 jiver51
11:01 bendymixer
11:02 CorrieAddict27
11:03 BadWidgeon
11:04 missmuffett27
11:05 Fiercely Hip
11:06 xKatieLx
11:07 Pet Monkey
11:08 komentaightor
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11:10 cranford fan
11:11 CAT5
11:12 Julie J
11:13 Elsa
11:14 Steve9214
11:15 Andrew_M
11:16 erin_p
11:17 heidi_bradshaw
11:18 Maureen_D
11:19 onmiconsumer
11:20 Major Chudley
11:21 Liz Rhea
11:22 whoryou
11:23 Lismore
11:24 lealeeds
11:25 Janeybear
11:26 MaureenG
11:27 xorosetylerxo
11:28 steff0202
11:29 TomStar
11:33 rosco2010
11:42 JAMESPEARCE91

For virtual Bets: -

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2019772

Veri

25-10-2014

I think they should receive 7, and the next person down should receive 5 rather than 6 (ie, like it used to be). But I wouldn't especially mind a system that gave them 6.5. What's very wrong, imo, is for the gap to be "closed up" like it is now. I think the BBC was panicked into changing the system because of the "Tom Chambers problem" and didn't think it through.

Veri

25-10-2014

Originally Posted by hannah_337:
“The problem with doing it that way when there are less couples is that the bottom can never be saved from the dance off, even with every public vote. They used to do it that way but changed it.”

It takes quite unusual circumstances for the problem to appear, and there are other ways to prevent it.

Veri

25-10-2014

Originally Posted by Major Chudley:
“He's pretty much invisible on strictly and one of the very few that would have had no form of stage school training. I get a bit bored with the good from day one crew, I like a journey”

The good ones are on a journey too, one that I happen to find more interesting.

However, I understand why people think differently.

natalian

25-10-2014

Originally Posted by Veri:
“I think there is a lot of over- and under- marking, regardless of forum "prejudices". But that doesn't mean the judges are giving marks they think are over or under -- or are doing it in order to "manipulate" the leaderboard. I think that would be a very serious accusation to make, especially since people are spending money on phone votes.”

It isn't an accusation I was making - it was an accusation I was refuting.

In general, I think that the judges get the leaderboard about right with scores that are roughly right relative to each other rather than absolutely. I don't always agree with the leaderboard positions (I don't tonight) and I would prefer Len, Bruno and Darcey to use a wider range of scores but I don;t think that the manipulate the leaderboard.

Steve9214

25-10-2014

We all know who SHOULD go - but it is very likely someone good could go tonight.

If Judy or Scott escape the DDO, then it could be between any of the ones above.
Allison was the poorest dancer tonight IMHO, but we could get Thom v Steve or even Jake v Mark depending on the voting patterns.

Prepare for a shock methinks

scarlotti

25-10-2014

Originally Posted by Veri:
“I think the BBC was panicked into changing the system because of the "Tom Chambers problem" and didn't think it through.”

I think the BBC probably did give this serious consideration in view of the issues it raised.

The offered refunds to voters at the time.

Subsequently they were "let off" by Ofcom....

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...trictly-789721

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