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komentaightor
24-10-2014
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152538513637628


This is what footwork is about, Alison!

Just love it!
sofakat
24-10-2014
But that is Cali - Colombian salsa, which is all about turns and amazing footwork. You will never, ever see it on SCD. Much too 'foreign' for the ballroom crowd.

It was the first style of salsa I was taught. And then I learned Cuban salsa. Another style altogether. Not ever seen on SCD either!

Sadly the 'salsa' they dance on SCD is cross-body salsambachanotsurewhatwearedoing style.

I live in hope
phoebefair
24-10-2014
And please will someone make that compulsory viewing for all those deluded parents who are sending in those gruesome videos of their little darlings failing to dance or even be funny. Videos which, it seems, everyone on Strictly either has to go 'awwwwww' to or clap like seals.

I know, I know. Herod is my middle name.
primer
24-10-2014
a bit weird.

i prefer to see children doing expressive dance.
*Topaz*
24-10-2014
Originally Posted by komentaightor:
“https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152538513637628


This is what footwork is about, Alison!

Just love it! ”

Yes it looks like Cali salsa. I love the style and those children are amazing - so much talent

Here's some more examples of the style.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jCwcfRegrNc

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oRDD9YTV8ts

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BhadR03Nfpo
henrywilliams58
25-10-2014
I general I don't like to watch children perform but this is amazing.

Originally Posted by sofakat:
“But that is Cali - Colombian salsa, which is all about turns and amazing footwork. You will never, ever see it on SCD. Much too 'foreign' for the ballroom crowd.

It was the first style of salsa I was taught. And then I learned Cuban salsa. Another style altogether. Not ever seen on SCD either!

Sadly the 'salsa' they dance on SCD is cross-body salsambachanotsurewhatwearedoing style.

I live in hope ”

Ah but they don't do Salsa on SCD.

They do SAWL Sir

I learnt Cali Salsa as well in 1992/3

Janette is pretty good at salsa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL0tOmZJNoc
An Thropologist
25-10-2014
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“But that is Cali - Colombian salsa, which is all about turns and amazing footwork. You will never, ever see it on SCD. Much too 'foreign' for the ballroom crowd.

It was the first style of salsa I was taught. And then I learned Cuban salsa. Another style altogether. Not ever seen on SCD either!

Sadly the 'salsa' they dance on SCD is cross-body salsambachanotsurewhatwearedoing style.

I live in hope ”

BIB. If only it were cross body/NY/LA I could live with it.

Love Cali, Love Cuban.
gerry23
25-10-2014
Janette is pretty good at salsa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL0tOmZJNoc[/quote]

Wow, that's pretty much the routine she got Jake to do.
*Topaz*
25-10-2014
Originally Posted by gerry23:
“Janette is pretty good at salsa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL0tOmZJNoc

Wow, that's pretty much the routine she got Jake to do.”

Yes Janette is great but that's the first decent salsa we've had in ages on strictly and she's of Cuban heritage so it's in her blood.

They need to bring in salsa teachers/choreographers to help the other pros.
An Thropologist
25-10-2014
Originally Posted by *Topaz*:
“Wow, that's pretty much the routine she got Jake to do.”

Yes Janette is great but that's the first decent salsa we've had in ages on strictly and she's of Cuban heritage so it's in her blood.

They need to bring in salsa teachers/choreographers to help the other pros.[/quote]

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An Thropologist
25-10-2014
Originally Posted by *Topaz*:
“Yes Janette is great but that's the first decent salsa we've had in ages on strictly and she's of Cuban heritage so it's in her blood.

They need to bring in salsa teachers/choreographers to help the other pros.”


Hurrumph

You wouldn't say that if you had danced with the Cuban I danced with last weekend.
*Topaz*
25-10-2014
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Hurrumph

You wouldn't say that if you had danced with the Cuban I danced with last weekend. ”

Lol well perhaps not every Cuban I think you've got a good chance of being a decent mover with natural rhythm if you hail from Latin America though - dancing seems to be a big part of the culture there
Heavenly
25-10-2014
Originally Posted by komentaightor:
“https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152538513637628


This is what footwork is about, Alison!

Just love it! ”

Thank you for that - what a joy to watch & so young!
An Thropologist
25-10-2014
Originally Posted by *Topaz*:
“Lol well perhaps not every Cuban I think you've got a good chance of being a decent mover with natural rhythm if you hail from Latin America though - dancing seems to be a big part of the culture there ”

Yes you are quite right. I was toying with you.

Dancing does seem to be very much part of the Latino culture. Many of my Latino friends say they never learned to dance. This is probabIy their perception, but of course they did. They learned by copying older relatives and dancing with their mums and dads, aunts and uncles, neighbours, older siblings etc at family gatherings and neighbourhood parties etc.

In my experience they don't perceive at some big deal that involves choreography, costumes, lights etc. To them its just what you do, like us popping the kettle on when we have company.

My OH is not Latino but he is Caribbean, where spontaneous dancing seems to prevail also. I have been to dance classes with him and he is utterly hopeless at picking up the content from the verbal descriptions. Yet he can stand and watch someone on the dance floor and copy them almost instantly.
kaycee
25-10-2014
The salsa they dance on Strictly always seems to me to be like a social dance as opposed to "real" salsa, in much the same way as someone who has never learnt to dance might do what they think is a jive, but is actually a miss-mash of swing, rock, and 'make-it-up-as-you-go-along'!!!

Not that, at a social dance, there is anything wrong with either, so long as people enjoy dancing it doesn't matter, but if they're going to do it on Strictly, they should try and get it right.
*Topaz*
25-10-2014
That's interesting An Thropologist. I think anyone who's born into a culture/family where dance plays an important social role is very lucky. I never got the chance to learn to dance when I was growing up

I seem to remember reading that Janette pretty much was self taught in salsa and she didn't have any formal training in it - I think it was just part of her culture as she was growing up
Vientre
25-10-2014
Brilliant get them booked on SCD
henrywilliams58
25-10-2014
They get moving even earlier in Brazil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbvXPF8aMhs
henrywilliams58
25-10-2014
Originally Posted by komentaightor:
“https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152538513637628

This is what footwork is about, Alison!

Just love it! ”

And at the end he became a little boy again. He helped her up and then turned his back on her and went off.
henrywilliams58
25-10-2014
Originally Posted by kaycee:
“The salsa they dance on Strictly always seems to me to be like a social dance as opposed to "real" salsa, in much the same way as someone who has never learnt to dance might do what they think is a jive, but is actually a miss-mash of swing, rock, and 'make-it-up-as-you-go-along'!!!

Not that, at a social dance, there is anything wrong with either, so long as people enjoy dancing it doesn't matter, but if they're going to do it on Strictly, they should try and get it right.”

Real salsa is a social dance. If we have our Venezuelan friends over for dinner we always roll up the carpets and dance - and vice versa. Just normal.

Oh wooden floors are essential in every dancing home.

Not the same with Argentine Tango. as very few Argentines dance Tango - apparently about 10% if that. A number of the Argentines at milongas in London learnt AT in London.
fridgesoup
25-10-2014
Originally Posted by komentaightor:
“https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152538513637628


This is what footwork is about, Alison!

Just love it! ”

Wow! Just brilliant. His feet were a blur!

(Love that there were dressed in sports wear and not as mini adults)
bendymixer
25-10-2014
Originally Posted by fridgesoup:
“Wow! Just brilliant. His feet were a blur!

(Love that there were dressed in sports wear and not as mini adults)”


they do dress in competition wear too like all dancers

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i5...ps4398d887.png

dont think latin dancers in same age group look anymore like mini adults than they do
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i5...ps41aed20b.jpg
Mystical123
25-10-2014
Originally Posted by phoebefair:
“And please will someone make that compulsory viewing for all those deluded parents who are sending in those gruesome videos of their little darlings failing to dance or even be funny. Videos which, it seems, everyone on Strictly either has to go 'awwwwww' to or clap like seals.

I know, I know. Herod is my middle name.”

I'm with you, those sections are excrutiating. I lasted about 10 seconds of the first one and have fast-forwarded ever since!

Originally Posted by *Topaz*:
“Yes Janette is great but that's the first decent salsa we've had in ages on strictly and she's of Cuban heritage so it's in her blood.

They need to bring in salsa teachers/choreographers to help the other pros
.”

Pretty sure they do. Certainly they bring in choreographers for the AT, and in fact for some of the standard dances as well. The show covers it well, but sometimes the pro dancer is not the one doing all the teaching...
An Thropologist
25-10-2014
Originally Posted by *Topaz*:
“That's interesting An Thropologist. I think anyone who's born into a culture/family where dance plays an important social role is very lucky. I never got the chance to learn to dance when I was growing up

I seem to remember reading that Janette pretty much was self taught in salsa and she didn't have any formal training in it - I think it was just part of her culture as she was growing up ”

YEs I share that envy. I was desperate for dance lessons as a child but the family budget didn't stretch to it and that was that. I didn't get to learn until my 30s by which time it was too late to become really good. I can put in the hours but my ability will never match my enthusiasm or the image in my head.

Originally Posted by henrywilliams58:
“Real salsa is a social dance. If we have our Venezuelan friends over for dinner we always roll up the carpets and dance - and vice versa. Just normal.

Oh wooden floors are essential in every dancing home.

Not the same with Argentine Tango. as very few Argentines dance Tango - apparently about 10% if that. A number of the Argentines at milongas in London learnt AT in London.”

Ha Ha. So true about Argentinians. When I meet people from Argentina for the first time I always tell them I am a student of AT. They look at me like I have grown an extra head. It seems to most of them it is an archaic pastime, something Grandma used to do. Its become a running joke that when (Latin Americans) want their heritage back they will have to import it from Europe and the US.
henrywilliams58
25-10-2014
I found the dance on youtube searching for the music "El Rey Del Timbal"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAwVTAjeuaw

Here they are on TV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhLBzu0yE-E
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