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Another great gone ...
Another great gone ...
Jack Bruce dead
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Fantastic musician - Harmony Row and Songs for a Tailor two of my all time favourite albums. RIP Jack
Never heard of him to be honest but one of the first things I read when I googled his name was "greatest bass player ever". What a great legacy to leave behind 
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Originally Posted by ScottishWoody:
“Never heard of him to be honest but one of the first things I read when I googled his name was "greatest bass player ever". What a great legacy to leave behind.”
“Never heard of him to be honest but one of the first things I read when I googled his name was "greatest bass player ever". What a great legacy to leave behind
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Great singer too.
Very sad news. Cream, of which JB was the bassist arguably pioneered the whole genre of blues rock in 1966, with Eric Clapton popularising the whole new way then of playing fiery lead guitar, although many guitarists a year later quickly adopted the style and improved upon it, Jimi Hendrix and Jimmy Page being 2 notable examples.
Jack Bruce wrote much of Cream's material, was a fantastic bass player and musician,. He had an operatic type voice which was unusual. He had looked seriously ill for a long time and I didn't know he had suffered liver cancer, but he had lost a huge amount of weight when I saw him on tv a few years ago. RIP Jack Bruce.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGcdnF-lKuc
Jack Bruce wrote much of Cream's material, was a fantastic bass player and musician,. He had an operatic type voice which was unusual. He had looked seriously ill for a long time and I didn't know he had suffered liver cancer, but he had lost a huge amount of weight when I saw him on tv a few years ago. RIP Jack Bruce.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGcdnF-lKuc
Very Very sad news indeed i guess thats another cream re-union gone forever now.
RIP Jack Bruce but hey what a legacy to leave behind.
RIP Jack Bruce but hey what a legacy to leave behind.
Aww that's sad. I saw him last year. Definitely a shadow of his former playing but still singing well.
This is my favourite Cream track, but really a Jack Bruce track which he managed to sneak onto the Goodbye album.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzcPVCzfZMM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzcPVCzfZMM
RIP Jack.
He certainly had a liver transplant a few years back [ heavy boozing ? } and has looked unwell for a few years.
Correctly pointed out that Jack 's singing technique was unusual in the Rock world in that he was trained in the operatic style and sang from the gut rather than the throat, this meant he was LOUD and long gruelling US tours never tired out his voicebox .
He famously got on really badly with Ginger Baker, and it will be interesting to see if Ginger will find anything nice to say about him.
I shall play Songs For A Tailor in memory of Jack.
He certainly had a liver transplant a few years back [ heavy boozing ? } and has looked unwell for a few years.
Correctly pointed out that Jack 's singing technique was unusual in the Rock world in that he was trained in the operatic style and sang from the gut rather than the throat, this meant he was LOUD and long gruelling US tours never tired out his voicebox .
He famously got on really badly with Ginger Baker, and it will be interesting to see if Ginger will find anything nice to say about him.
I shall play Songs For A Tailor in memory of Jack.
Originally Posted by Centaurion:
“I shall play Songs For A Tailor in memory of Jack.”
“I shall play Songs For A Tailor in memory of Jack.”
Seconded ...
'Theme for an imaginary western' and 'To Isengard' several times (though that's not to do down the rest of the album).
I wish I was still in contact with the person who knew him and also roadie'd for him in the 60's up to Cream. I've said elsewhere before that he has endless tales of those days, first in Scotland, then at The Marquee etc (especially some almost unbelievable Bruce/Baker tales if you didn't know about their relationship). Never thought at the time to jot any of it down, it was just (very interesting) pub chat ...
Originally Posted by DavetheSensible:
“Seconded ...
'Theme for an imaginary western' and 'To Isengard' several times (though that's not to do down the rest of the album).
I wish I was still in contact with the person who knew him and also roadie'd for him in the 60's up to Cream. I've said elsewhere before that he has endless tales of those days, first in Scotland, then at The Marquee etc (especially some almost unbelievable Bruce/Baker tales if you didn't know about their relationship). Never thought at the time to jot any of it down, it was just (very interesting) pub chat ...”
“Seconded ...
'Theme for an imaginary western' and 'To Isengard' several times (though that's not to do down the rest of the album).
I wish I was still in contact with the person who knew him and also roadie'd for him in the 60's up to Cream. I've said elsewhere before that he has endless tales of those days, first in Scotland, then at The Marquee etc (especially some almost unbelievable Bruce/Baker tales if you didn't know about their relationship). Never thought at the time to jot any of it down, it was just (very interesting) pub chat ...
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Love the story of Jack, Ginger and Eric while on a Scottish leg of of a tour , driving up to Fort William and hoofing it up Ben Nevis [ no mean feat ] having a few recreational spliffs at the top , and , laughing like maniacal loons, running all the way back down again.
Originally Posted by FrankBT:
“Very sad news. Cream, of which JB was the bassist arguably pioneered the whole genre of blues rock in 1966, with Eric Clapton popularising the whole new way then of playing fiery lead guitar, although many guitarists a year later quickly adopted the style and improved upon it, Jimi Hendrix and Jimmy Page being 2 notable examples.
Jack Bruce wrote much of Cream's material, was a fantastic bass player and musician,. He had an operatic type voice which was unusual. He had looked seriously ill for a long time and I didn't know he had suffered liver cancer, but he had lost a huge amount of weight when I saw him on tv a few years ago. RIP Jack Bruce.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGcdnF-lKuc”
“Very sad news. Cream, of which JB was the bassist arguably pioneered the whole genre of blues rock in 1966, with Eric Clapton popularising the whole new way then of playing fiery lead guitar, although many guitarists a year later quickly adopted the style and improved upon it, Jimi Hendrix and Jimmy Page being 2 notable examples.
Jack Bruce wrote much of Cream's material, was a fantastic bass player and musician,. He had an operatic type voice which was unusual. He had looked seriously ill for a long time and I didn't know he had suffered liver cancer, but he had lost a huge amount of weight when I saw him on tv a few years ago. RIP Jack Bruce.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGcdnF-lKuc”
Lonnie Mack was doing it long before JB . as usual it was taken from america and passed off as original in the uk !
R.I.P Jack Bruce , a Cracking musican .
Originally Posted by denial_orstupid:
“Lonnie Mack was doing it long before JB . as usual it was taken from america and passed off as original in the uk !”
“Lonnie Mack was doing it long before JB . as usual it was taken from america and passed off as original in the uk !”
I'd be a bit cautious about citing him as progenitor.
He wasn't either well known or influential in the UK during the 63-65 period when he first struck out with that style. Mayall's trainee gutarists were only shortly behind him with strapping solos in a proto-psych style to blues, both with the Bluesbreakers and their subsequent Yardbirds etc. And you can trace the development of solos through the Merseybeat sound and R&B and their influence on guitarists anyway.
Not a scientific conclusion, but ...
I've only had time for a short look, and Clapton, Beck, Mayall etc barely mention him, and not at all as an early influence.
Unfortunately I can't lay my hands on the two best books on British blues right now, but I don't recall him being mentioned at all. Interestingly, his biogs and other references in books up to the mid-90s don't make much of his influence either - although they do mention his different style. You'd have thought more would have been made of it if.
That's not to say the point that we nicked it all from the US isn't true of course
Met this guy when i worked at Stigwoods many years ago. One of the nice guys in the music industry. Legend. 
Originally Posted by Richard1960:
“Very Very sad news indeed i guess thats another cream re-union gone forever now.
RIP Jack Bruce but hey what a legacy to leave behind.”
“Very Very sad news indeed i guess thats another cream re-union gone forever now.
RIP Jack Bruce but hey what a legacy to leave behind.”
To be honest, I don't think wild horses would have dragged Bruce and Baker back on stage together.
Originally Posted by DavetheSensible:
“I'd be a bit cautious about citing him as progenitor.
He wasn't either well known or influential in the UK during the 63-65 period when he first struck out with that style. Mayall's trainee gutarists were only shortly behind him with strapping solos in a proto-psych style to blues, both with the Bluesbreakers and their subsequent Yardbirds etc. And you can trace the development of solos through the Merseybeat sound and R&B and their influence on guitarists anyway.
Not a scientific conclusion, but ...
I've only had time for a short look, and Clapton, Beck, Mayall etc barely mention him, and not at all as an early influence.
Unfortunately I can't lay my hands on the two best books on British blues right now, but I don't recall him being mentioned at all. Interestingly, his biogs and other references in books up to the mid-90s don't make much of his influence either - although they do mention his different style. You'd have thought more would have been made of it if.
That's not to say the point that we nicked it all from the US isn't true of course”
“I'd be a bit cautious about citing him as progenitor.
He wasn't either well known or influential in the UK during the 63-65 period when he first struck out with that style. Mayall's trainee gutarists were only shortly behind him with strapping solos in a proto-psych style to blues, both with the Bluesbreakers and their subsequent Yardbirds etc. And you can trace the development of solos through the Merseybeat sound and R&B and their influence on guitarists anyway.
Not a scientific conclusion, but ...
I've only had time for a short look, and Clapton, Beck, Mayall etc barely mention him, and not at all as an early influence.
Unfortunately I can't lay my hands on the two best books on British blues right now, but I don't recall him being mentioned at all. Interestingly, his biogs and other references in books up to the mid-90s don't make much of his influence either - although they do mention his different style. You'd have thought more would have been made of it if.
That's not to say the point that we nicked it all from the US isn't true of course
”
I am merely pointing out that Lonnie Mack was doing that style before Jack Bruce , it doesnt matter how popular he was or that he was relatively uknown.
you cannot say someone pioneered something when there were people doing it a long time before you.
But at least we can agree on the stealing it all from america
Originally Posted by Heston Veston:
“To be honest, I don't think wild horses would have dragged Bruce and Baker back on stage together.”
“To be honest, I don't think wild horses would have dragged Bruce and Baker back on stage together.”
No thats very probably right.!
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